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PR card expiry back in 2010 and now they just want to visit in Canada.

Ezee

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My Friend and his family of 4 landed in Canada back in 2005 after 6 weeks of landing they left and let their PR expired.
Now they just want to back in Canada as a visitor just for few weeks.
I'm just wondering if they still can obtain there PR card well they are in Canada on their next visit?
Please comment what they should do before apply visit visa.
Thanks in advance
 

zardoz

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Feb 2, 2013
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London
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Ezee said:
My Friend and his family of 4 landed in Canada back in 2005 after 6 weeks of landing they left and let their PR expired.
Now they just want to back in Canada as a visitor just for few weeks.
I'm just wondering if they still can obtain there PR card well they are in Canada on their next visit?
Please comment what they should do before apply visit visa.
Thanks in advance
No chance... In fact, they may be reported on entry and proceedings started to revoke their PR status.
As permanent residents, they cannot apply for any form of visa to Canada. It will be automatically denied.
They will need to apply for a PR Travel Document, or enter via a land border with the USA, if they are not visa-exempt.
 

Ezee

Hero Member
Mar 2, 2011
497
14
Toronto
Category........
Visa Office......
Islamabad
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
24/08/2011
Doc's Request.
11/06/2012
AOR Received.
21/06/2012
File Transfer...
03/11/2011
Med's Request
06/18/2013
Med's Done....
06/26/2013
Interview........
Waived
Passport Req..
06/18/2013
VISA ISSUED...
07/15/2013
LANDED..........
23/07/2013
zardoz said:
No chance... In fact, they may be reported on entry and proceedings started to revoke their PR status.
Can they come just for as a visitor even don't want PR ?.

They have US visitor visa I can bring them by car and report entry to Canadian border service what is chance then.
 

zardoz

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Feb 2, 2013
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Visa Office......
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App. Filed.......
16-02-2013
VISA ISSUED...
31-07-2013
LANDED..........
09-11-2013
Ezee said:
Can they come just for as a visitor even don't want PR ?.
Only if they apply to revoke their PR status. Otherwise, no.
 

zardoz

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Feb 2, 2013
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Canada
Category........
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Visa Office......
London
App. Filed.......
16-02-2013
VISA ISSUED...
31-07-2013
LANDED..........
09-11-2013
Ezee said:
Can they come just for as a visitor even don't want PR ?.

They have US visitor visa I can bring them by car and report entry to Canadian border service what is chance then.
If they come in by car, they can visit. They may still get reported, and they definitely will not be able to renew their PR cards.
 

Ezee

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Mar 2, 2011
497
14
Toronto
Category........
Visa Office......
Islamabad
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
24/08/2011
Doc's Request.
11/06/2012
AOR Received.
21/06/2012
File Transfer...
03/11/2011
Med's Request
06/18/2013
Med's Done....
06/26/2013
Interview........
Waived
Passport Req..
06/18/2013
VISA ISSUED...
07/15/2013
LANDED..........
23/07/2013
zardoz said:
Only if they apply to revoke their PR status. Otherwise, no.
So, you mean they have to first apply revoke their PR status and then they can apply for visit visa.
 

zardoz

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16-02-2013
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LANDED..........
09-11-2013
It's the only way to get a visa. However, the land border method doesn't require a PR card, so could work for them. They will have to prove that they are permanent residents though.
 

Ezee

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Mar 2, 2011
497
14
Toronto
Category........
Visa Office......
Islamabad
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
24/08/2011
Doc's Request.
11/06/2012
AOR Received.
21/06/2012
File Transfer...
03/11/2011
Med's Request
06/18/2013
Med's Done....
06/26/2013
Interview........
Waived
Passport Req..
06/18/2013
VISA ISSUED...
07/15/2013
LANDED..........
23/07/2013
zardoz said:
It's the only way to get a visa. However, the land border method doesn't require a PR card, so could work for them. They will have to prove that they are permanent residents though.
even with expired PR card?
 

zardoz

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Feb 2, 2013
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Visa Office......
London
App. Filed.......
16-02-2013
VISA ISSUED...
31-07-2013
LANDED..........
09-11-2013
Ezee said:
even with expired PR card?
Yes. Don't confuse PR card expiry with PR status. They are NOT linked.
 

Ezee

Hero Member
Mar 2, 2011
497
14
Toronto
Category........
Visa Office......
Islamabad
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
24/08/2011
Doc's Request.
11/06/2012
AOR Received.
21/06/2012
File Transfer...
03/11/2011
Med's Request
06/18/2013
Med's Done....
06/26/2013
Interview........
Waived
Passport Req..
06/18/2013
VISA ISSUED...
07/15/2013
LANDED..........
23/07/2013
zardoz said:
Yes. Don't confuse PR card expiry with PR status. They are NOT linked.
Thanks a lot Zardoz :)

there is good news I found this on CIC web:

If you return in a private vehicle, like your own car with expired PR card

"If you return to Canada in a private vehicle, such as your own car, you do not need a permanent resident card. You can use your Record of Landing (IMM 1000) or Confirmation of Permanent Residence (IMM 5292 or IMM 5688) instead."
 

zardoz

VIP Member
Feb 2, 2013
13,304
2,166
Canada
Category........
FAM
Visa Office......
London
App. Filed.......
16-02-2013
VISA ISSUED...
31-07-2013
LANDED..........
09-11-2013

neuroticdan

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Hi guys;

I am in a similar situation: expired PR card (failed to meet 730-day obligation), couldn't make it back for personal reasons. I will attempt a land border entry soon, by private car. From what I read here, is it safer for me to just provide my passport and IMM 5292, rather than my expired PR card? Can I do that?

Regards;

Neuroticdan
 

Alurra71

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Ontario
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28-11-2013
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19-12-2013
neuroticdan said:
Hi guys;

I am in a similar situation: expired PR card (failed to meet 730-day obligation), couldn't make it back for personal reasons. I will attempt a land border entry soon, by private car. From what I read here, is it safer for me to just provide my passport and IMM 5292, rather than my expired PR card? Can I do that?

Regards;

Neuroticdan
You can, yes, but as stated numerous times across this board, you are ALWAYS at risk of being reported for failure to meet the RO. If you are reported you will have to appeal to keep your PR status. If your appeal fails, your PR will be revoked and you will be sent back to your originating country. There is no exact steps or method to use to skirt this. It is luck of the draw. You may or may not get the jackpot that day.
 

Ezee

Hero Member
Mar 2, 2011
497
14
Toronto
Category........
Visa Office......
Islamabad
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
24/08/2011
Doc's Request.
11/06/2012
AOR Received.
21/06/2012
File Transfer...
03/11/2011
Med's Request
06/18/2013
Med's Done....
06/26/2013
Interview........
Waived
Passport Req..
06/18/2013
VISA ISSUED...
07/15/2013
LANDED..........
23/07/2013
neuroticdan said:
Hi guys;

I am in a similar situation: expired PR card (failed to meet 730-day obligation), couldn't make it back for personal reasons. I will attempt a land border entry soon, by private car. From what I read here, is it safer for me to just provide my passport and IMM 5292, rather than my expired PR card? Can I do that?

Regards;

Neuroticdan
Do you able to enter ? If yes what they asked at the point of entry. Please share your experience.