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shreya99

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Jun 3, 2010
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Canada
Hi All,

As CIC have changed the rules of immigration drastically, what impact do you think will be on previous applications, applications will be checked leniently or they will become more strict ?? What are the other impact like processing time for previous applicant??

This question arised because now with new rules NOC 0213, 4131, 1111 etc. and many more are closed. As per that they will not going to get immigrants in same catagory in future, how will that effect the old applicants in same NOC catagory?? What you people think??

What are your opinions?

Shreya
 

aspire

Champion Member
Jul 13, 2009
1,094
25
Canada
Category........
Visa Office......
London
NOC Code......
3152
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
22-02-2009
File Transfer...
29-03-2009
Med's Request
21-01-2011
Med's Done....
17-02-2011
Interview........
waived
Passport Req..
30-03-2011(pspt submitted 09-04-2011)
VISA ISSUED...
09-05-2011 (passport received 17-05-2011)
LANDED..........
26-06-2011
shreya99 said:
Hi All,

As CIC have changed the rules of immigration drastically, what impact do you think will be on previous applications, applications will be checked leniently or they will become more strict ?? What are the other impact like processing time for previous applicant??

This question arised because now with new rules NOC 0213, 4131, 1111 etc. and many more are closed. As per that they will not going to get immigrants in same catagory in future, how will that effect the old applicants in same NOC catagory?? What you people think??

What are your opinions?

Shreya
I think they found out that they had enough applicants of the NOC's which they recently removed from the list. They want to expedite them to reduce the backlog. Another factor is that during the recent consultation with the provinces, the demand of these NOC's in the labor market is not that high as it was during the pre Feb 27, 2008 consultations.

In my opinion, the same standards will be applied. The new rules will give a positive impact to people who have applied in the past. There is less incoming applications to process from June 26, 2010, so there will be more time for CHC's to process the old files.

In my wildest imagination, with CIC's desperation to eliminate the backlog, time may come that they would no longer receive new applications not unless and until all pending files are being processed.
 

nicholas30

Champion Member
Nov 4, 2008
1,109
35
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
I guess its better with the new list, highly qualified people have immigrated to Canada and now they dont have jobs.
 

rupeshhari

VIP Member
Sep 15, 2008
3,686
255
Category........
Visa Office......
Buffalo
NOC Code......
4131
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
Dec 2008 to CIO
Doc's Request.
Jan 2009
AOR Received.
Feb 2009 from VO
IELTS Request
Didn't do IELTS.
File Transfer...
Not transfered to regional office.
Med's Request
July 2010 with RPRF and another PCC.
Med's Done....
Meds - September 2010. PCC - Late Oct 2010
Interview........
Waived
Passport Req..
Early November 2010
VISA ISSUED...
December 2010 - Exactly days shy of 2 years since I sent in my application to CIO.
LANDED..........
2011
Old applications in the same category will get a better chance now because of fewer applications in total at the visa office.
 

mrshah30

Star Member
May 25, 2010
194
4
thx 4 ur information guyz actually i am concerned abt couple of things.

one is about 1122 catagory says two types of experiences management and advertising..i have advertising one can i qualify ...

also..i have police clearances from australia and ireland as soon as i left the countries will they be ok to send to CIO as they are three months old.. but i never been to those countries..after getting the police clearnces.

kindly..assisst me...
cheers
mrshah
 

mediajunkie

Star Member
Sep 2, 2009
162
13
mrshah30 said:
thx 4 ur information guyz actually i am concerned abt couple of things.

one is about 1122 catagory says two types of experiences management and advertising..i have advertising one can i qualify ...

also..i have police clearances from australia and ireland as soon as i left the countries will they be ok to send to CIO as they are three months old.. but i never been to those countries..after getting the police clearnces.

kindly..assisst me...
cheers
mrshah
I believe the police clearances have to be within 6 months of the application. You can still write to them from overseas - for the Australia one you can ask them to send it directly to the high commission but it will cost you about A$105. Not sure about the Ireland one. There's no way that the Canadian government can prove that you never went back. I left Australia 15 years ago and never went back and still had to provide police clearances.
 

mrshah30

Star Member
May 25, 2010
194
4
mediajunkie said:
I believe the police clearances have to be within 6 months of the application. You can still write to them from overseas - for the Australia one you can ask them to send it directly to the high commission but it will cost you about A$105. Not sure about the Ireland one. There's no way that the Canadian government can prove that you never went back. I left Australia 15 years ago and never went back and still had to provide police clearances.
thx for ur assisstance but...by fingerprint check do need to send the fingerprints on plan paper attest it from police station and then send it with my application and if i want police clearance directly sent to CIO then when should i mean how can i come to know that CIO has recieved my police clearance..
thx..
mrshah
 

mrshah30

Star Member
May 25, 2010
194
4
thx for ur assisstance but...by fingerprint check do need to send the fingerprints on plan paper attest it from police station and then send it with my application and if i want police clearance directly sent to CIO then when should i mean how can i come to know that CIO has recieved my police clearance..
thx..
mrshah
 

OhCanadiana

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Feb 27, 2010
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mrshah30 said:
thx for ur assisstance but...by fingerprint check do need to send the fingerprints on plan paper attest it from police station and then send it with my application and if i want police clearance directly sent to CIO then when should i mean how can i come to know that CIO has recieved my police clearance..
thx..
mrshah
Look at http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/security/police-cert/index.asp for specific instructions on how to get the Police Certificate from each country you have lived in for more than 6 months since you were 16. Follow the instructions and then, in most cases, you will get a document from the local authorities that you can send to the CIO yourself. You can send it with a courier service (like FedEx, UPS, etc) and get signature confirmation that it was delivered.

If you have more questions, it would help if you say what country(ies) you will need to get PCCs from so we can help you more specifically. Good luck, mrshah30!


Now, getting back to the original question of the thread ...

shreya99 said:
Hi All,

As CIC have changed the rules of immigration drastically, what impact do you think will be on previous applications, applications will be checked leniently or they will become more strict ?? What are the other impact like processing time for previous applicant??

This question arised because now with new rules NOC 0213, 4131, 1111 etc. and many more are closed. As per that they will not going to get immigrants in same catagory in future, how will that effect the old applicants in same NOC catagory?? What you people think??

What are your opinions?

Shreya
I think that applications submitted before June 26 will be assessed the same way they were assessed before, as they will be assessed by the rules that were in place for the applications at the time of application (in other words, independently of the new rule change).

"If you applied before February 27, 2008, the visa office where you applied will contact you and ask you to provide the required documentation about four months before your application is to be processed. When they have verified your completed application, they will send you a letter to tell you what you need to do and what happens next.

Your application will always be processed according to the rules in place when you applied." - http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/immigrate/skilled/apply-after.asp
 

jnathan

VIP Member
Feb 3, 2009
4,513
142
Category........
Visa Office......
Sheng Chiu
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
21st Jan 2010
Doc's Request.
10th March 2010
AOR Received.
10th June 2010
IELTS Request
provided
File Transfer...
IN PROCESS: 12th October, 2010
Med's Request
Withdrawal Request sent....Was waiting for files to return....instead of returning the files, VO sent the MR !!
Med's Done....
28 May 2012
Passport Req..
24 July 2012
The Topic has been diverted to something else.

Shreya asked about whether or not the current full docs at the CHC's around the world would be treated fairly or the checking would be more strict than before.

I dont know Shreya, This is all seems like a Lottery now.
 

rupeshhari

VIP Member
Sep 15, 2008
3,686
255
Category........
Visa Office......
Buffalo
NOC Code......
4131
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
Dec 2008 to CIO
Doc's Request.
Jan 2009
AOR Received.
Feb 2009 from VO
IELTS Request
Didn't do IELTS.
File Transfer...
Not transfered to regional office.
Med's Request
July 2010 with RPRF and another PCC.
Med's Done....
Meds - September 2010. PCC - Late Oct 2010
Interview........
Waived
Passport Req..
Early November 2010
VISA ISSUED...
December 2010 - Exactly days shy of 2 years since I sent in my application to CIO.
LANDED..........
2011
they will be treated fairly except maybe for those who submitted a letter instead of ielts.
 

shreya99

Hero Member
Jun 3, 2010
204
19
Canada
Friends,

I was thinking in both ways, either they will think that this will be few last batches of the catagory 0213, 4131 or 1111 or any other which they have stopped according to new rule, so go leniently in checking the applications, and make the policy accordingly for the applications received before 26th June.

OR Other Way as they have stopped this catagories, they will become strict from CIO stage and check it strictly for Job duties and other factors like IELTS etc. so once if they reject that applicants cant apply again becuase of new rules.

My application is at CIO right now received by them on 2nd June. So i am really thinking more positively, what are your views on this???

Shreya
 

Nari

Hero Member
Aug 7, 2009
259
8
Category........
Visa Office......
Moscow
NOC Code......
1111
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
18 June 2009
Doc's Request.
01 Sept 2009
AOR Received.
15 Dec 2009
Med's Request
03 March 2010
Med's Done....
31 March 2010
Interview........
Waived
Passport Req..
01 June, 2010
VISA ISSUED...
16 June, 2010
LANDED..........
10 October, 2010
Dear friends, read this article and be calm!

On June 26, 2010, Canadian Immigration Minister Jason Kenney announced that the Government of Canada has amended its current immigration procedures to put even greater emphasis on economic recovery and further reduce the Federal Skilled Worker application backlog. The changes, effective immediately, concern the Federal Skilled Worker program, including:

1) a change in the occupations that are currently ‘open’ under this program,

2) the creation of a limit on the number of applications which will be considered by Canadian Immigration Visa Offices, and

3) a change in the documentation required for an application under this program.

[size=10pt]These changes do not affect any applications received at the Central Intake Office before June 26, 2010.
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Under these updated instructions, an application is eligible for processing if the applicant:

• has at least one year of continuous, full-time (or equivalent) paid work experience in the past decade in a qualifying occupation, which have been identified as the most in-demand occupations in Canada at this time; or
• qualifies for Arranged Employment with a full-time permanent job offer from a Canadian employer.

Applicants who formerly qualified because they had been living in Canada with legal status as a Temporary Foreign Worker or an international student will no longer be eligible under the Federal Skilled Worker program, but may still meet the eligibility criteria of the Canadian Experience Class program.

The former list of 38 qualifying occupations has been amended to include 11 new occupations with 20 previously listed occupations having been removed.

Effective immediately, the following occupations have been added to the list:

0811 Primary Production Managers (Except Agriculture)
1122 Professional Occupations in Business Services to Management
1233 Insurance Adjusters and Claims Examiners
2121 Biologists and Related Scientists
2151 Architects
3113 Dentists
3131 Pharmacists
3222 Dental Hygienists & Dental Therapists
4151 Psychologists
4152 Social Workers
7216 Contractors and Supervisors, Mechanic Trades

The following occupations remain on the list:

0631 Restaurant and Food Service Managers
3111 Specialists in clinical medicine
3112 General practitioners and family physicians
3142 Physiotherapists
3152 General duty registered nurses
3215 Radiological technologists
3233 Licensed practical nurses
6241 Chefs
6242 Cooks
7215 Contractors and Supervisors, Carpentry Trades
7241 Electricians (Except Industrial & Power System)
7242 Industrial Electricians
7251 Plumbers
7265 Welders & Related Machine Operators
7312 Heavy-Duty Equipment Mechanics
7371 Crane Operators
7372 Drillers & Blasters - Surface Mining, Quarrying & Construction
8222 Supervisors, Oil and Gas Drilling and Service

For those skilled workers applying under the occupation list, the government will limit the number of applications considered for processing to 20,000 total per year. Within the 20,000 limit, a maximum of 1,000 applications per occupation will be considered. This limit does not apply to applicants with a job offer.

Candidates for the Federal Skilled Worker program and for the Canadian Experience Class Program will now be required to submit the results of a language proficiency assessment exam, along with a complete set of supporting documents (such as copies of passports, evidence of educational history, documentation of marital status, proof of settlement funds, police clearances, etc.) with their application forms. As such, the language proficiency results and additional documentation must be gathered to create an initial application.

The authority for the changes, known as ministerial instructions, comes from amendments to the Immigration and Refugee Protection Act approved by Parliament in 2008 as part of the Action Plan for Faster Immigration.

The instructions are meant as a flexible tool to allow the government to keep the intake of applications for economic immigration in line with the number and types of jobs available in Canada, as well as reduce application backlogs and processing times.

Since the first instructions were issued in November 2008, the backlog of federal skilled worker applicants in process prior to the legislation has dropped from 640,000 to 380,000. The majority of decisions on new applications are being made in six to 12 months, compared with up to six years prior to the changes. But in the first quarter of 2010, the number of new applications rose significantly beyond the department’s ability to process them in a timely way, leading to the recognition that a more refined approach is necessary.

“These changes bring Canada in line with the practices of the United Kingdom, Australia and New Zealand, our main competitors for skilled immigrants,” said Immigration Minister Kenney. “They help match the supply of applicants to our processing capacity and today’s post-recession job market needs. This is the only responsible way to manage our immigration system.”

“This completely changes the nature of an application for a Federal Skilled Worker permanent resident visa,” commented Canadian immigration Attorney David Cohen. “Under these new rules, there are between 680 and 1000 visas to be issued for each occupation on the list and those spots will fill up very quickly. As the expression goes, ‘the early birds are going to get those worms’,” said Cohen.

Attorney Cohen went on to explain that these new rules favour the fastest and most organized applicants. “The reality of these new rules is that an applicant has only one try to get his or her application accepted. If an application has even a tiny error, it risks being returned without processing, and by the time that error is corrected, the odds of the occupation category being closed are that much greater.”

The new rules and the closure of some of the Federal Skilled Worker occupations should not discourage potential immigrations from considering Canada as a destination. Attorney Cohen encourages potential immigrants: “Remember that there are 60 immigration programs across Canada from which to choose. If the Federal Skilled Worker program is no longer an option, I’ll advise my clients to explore other alternatives.”

Nari
 

jnathan

VIP Member
Feb 3, 2009
4,513
142
Category........
Visa Office......
Sheng Chiu
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
21st Jan 2010
Doc's Request.
10th March 2010
AOR Received.
10th June 2010
IELTS Request
provided
File Transfer...
IN PROCESS: 12th October, 2010
Med's Request
Withdrawal Request sent....Was waiting for files to return....instead of returning the files, VO sent the MR !!
Med's Done....
28 May 2012
Passport Req..
24 July 2012
Shreaya

Anything could happen, speculations never stop in humand minds.
IO's might be lenient, strict, or act as usual they used to do.

I have previously gone to Canada and I know their system, They wont go a point over what is written in laws. IO's have big power in assesing files, if an applicant scores 67 and over, and prove that he/she has all other papers relevant to his/her claim, IO can award the PR without any problem whatsoever.

my view is they wont be linient, or strict. They will be doing their regular duties.
At the same time I got this very single thought that IO's will keep this in mind that the files they are dealing right now are the last batch of files for a few scores of applicants. Remember, Human psychology always play a part, I have dealt files of applicants in my job field, I always thought about them when dealing about them.

So Chances could go either way !