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Are there still hearings in the 23rd and 30th of November? I see not mention of them anywhere
Please check the link http://cas-ncr-nter03.cas-satj.gc.ca/portal/page/portal/fc_cf_en/Ont_List

Toronto Nov cases you will find


IMM-5635-12

MAE JOY TABINGO v. MCI
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Imm - Appl. for leave & jud. review - Arising outside Canada 23 09:30 1d

IMM-8747-12

YANJUN YIN v. MCI
(M-English)
Imm - Appl. for leave & jud. review - Arising outside Canada

And that hearings are for Certifying Class action or not.
 

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wounderful said:
Please check the link http://cas-ncr-nter03.cas-satj.gc.ca/portal/page/portal/fc_cf_en/Ont_List

Toronto Nov cases you will find


IMM-5635-12

MAE JOY TABINGO v. MCI
(M-English)
Imm - Appl. for leave & jud. review - Arising outside Canada 23 09:30 1d

IMM-8747-12

YANJUN YIN v. MCI
(M-English)
Imm - Appl. for leave & jud. review - Arising outside Canada

And that hearings are for Certifying Class action or not.
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Thank you wonderful for your reply. And yes I Believe that future will bring a good news for us.
 

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This is new entries in the case No. 5635-12 & 8747-12

Letter from Bellissimo Law Group dated 21-NOV-2012 "(...) Given the Department of Justice is still waiting instructions, proceeding with the hearing on 23 November 2012 seems premature. Consequently, we request that the hearing be adjourned. (...)" received on 21-NOV-2012

Letter from Waldman and Associates dated 21-NOV-2012 "Given the delay in response from the Department of Justice, and after further consideration and discussion between Applicant's counsel, we request that the certification motion hering dates scheduled for 23 and 30 November 2012 be adjourned sine die, pending the resolution of the test cases. (...)" received on 21-NOV-2012
 

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wounderful said:
This is new entries in the case No. 5635-12 & 8747-12

Letter from Bellissimo Law Group dated 21-NOV-2012 "(...) Given the Department of Justice is still waiting instructions, proceeding with the hearing on 23 November 2012 seems premature. Consequently, we request that the hearing be adjourned. (...)" received on 21-NOV-2012

Letter from Waldman and Associates dated 21-NOV-2012 "Given the delay in response from the Department of Justice, and after further consideration and discussion between Applicant's counsel, we request that the certification motion hering dates scheduled for 23 and 30 November 2012 be adjourned sine die, pending the resolution of the test cases. (...)" received on 21-NOV-2012
do u think that hearing schedule is in suspect now?
 

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http://www.vancouversun.com/news/national/Rejected+immigrants+golden+ticket+Canada+thanks+computer/7591563/story.html


Rejected immigrants get golden ticket to Canada thanks to computer glitch


OTTAWA — About 150 newcomers got lucky Wednesday after the government decided to grant them permanent residency even though their immigration applications were unceremoniously tossed thanks to the recent budget.

Immigration Minister Jason Kenney announced he was using his ministerial powers to allow them to stay because a computer glitch issued them visas by mistake.

The move comes after some of the people had already arrived in Canada, including a Moroccan family that showed up at the airport in Montreal on Friday only to learn their visas were invalid, according to a report by the French language newspaper La Presse.

“It was an administrative error on the part of my ministry,” Kenney said, noting Citizenship and Immigration is changing its IT system and in the process, some visas were issued automatically by mistake.

“We make over two million decisions a year, about 7,000 a day. We are making a major IT change so I think it’s understandable that a small error of this nature would be made.”

Kenney said the newcomers in question all qualify to immigrate to Canada as they’ve passed their security screening and have been deemed admissible. While it’s not clear how many had already arrived only to be told their visa was invalid, Kenney said anybody who did and left, is now welcome to return.

The error affected about 50 principal applicants from a dozen different countries who applied through the federal skilled worker program with their families prior to Feb. 27, 2008 and had not yet been assessed.

The group was among some 280,000 applicants and dependents who were told their paperwork was to be destroyed and their fees refunded as part of a government effort to slash a years-long program backlog.

Before this surprise turn of events, they would have had to reapply under new criteria if they still wanted to come to Canada even though many had been waiting years in the queue.

Kenney, however, dismissed the suggestion that granting permanent residency to a select few by virtue of an administrative error may be construed as unfair to the thousands who were not impacted by the glitch and remain out of luck in terms of their bid to come to Canada.

“There’s a fairness argument both ways. I think it would be fundamentally unfair to the people who have received visas, who wrapped up their affairs in their home country, acted in good faith, some apparently have come to Canada, to tell them to leave so it’s a question of the lesser of two evils in a sense,” he said.

“We have chosen to not punish people who have acted in good faith and who we told to come to Canada. I think that’s the best solution.”

NDP immigration critic Jinny Sims said she’s “pleased” the government has acknowledged that a mistake was made and that it’s redressing it, but believes the incident highlights a bigger problem.

“The real mistake is the deletion of all those files in a very unfair manner and the fast pace the minister is changing immigration policies,” she said, adding the pace of change has left little time to ensure a smooth transition, let alone adequate Parliamentary oversight.

Leading Canadian immigration lawyer Richard Kurland agreed Kenney made the right move and doubts the government will face any legal headaches from those not impacted by the glitch as the minister has the authority to grant permanent residency in exceptional circumstances.

The government also has a right to terminate visas after they’ve been issued, he said, noting it happens all the time in cases where a Canadian sponsor or principal applicant dies, for example.

Meanwhile, Kurland said there have also been glitches the other way with respect to the government’s decision to eliminate the backlog by tossing pre-2008 applications. He’s currently handling about eight cases in which applicants were issued refusal letters when in fact they were eligible for visas.
 

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kiwi1 said:
lucky!!!!


http://www.vancouversun.com/news/national/Rejected+immigrants+golden+ticket+Canada+thanks+computer/7591563/story.html


Rejected immigrants get golden ticket to Canada thanks to computer glitch


OTTAWA — About 150 newcomers got lucky Wednesday after the government decided to grant them permanent residency even though their immigration applications were unceremoniously tossed thanks to the recent budget.

Immigration Minister Jason Kenney announced he was using his ministerial powers to allow them to stay because a computer glitch issued them visas by mistake.

The move comes after some of the people had already arrived in Canada, including a Moroccan family that showed up at the airport in Montreal on Friday only to learn their visas were invalid, according to a report by the French language newspaper La Presse.

“It was an administrative error on the part of my ministry,” Kenney said, noting Citizenship and Immigration is changing its IT system and in the process, some visas were issued automatically by mistake.

“We make over two million decisions a year, about 7,000 a day. We are making a major IT change so I think it's understandable that a small error of this nature would be made.”

Kenney said the newcomers in question all qualify to immigrate to Canada as they've passed their security screening and have been deemed admissible. While it's not clear how many had already arrived only to be told their visa was invalid, Kenney said anybody who did and left, is now welcome to return.

The error affected about 50 principal applicants from a dozen different countries who applied through the federal skilled worker program with their families prior to Feb. 27, 2008 and had not yet been assessed.

The group was among some 280,000 applicants and dependents who were told their paperwork was to be destroyed and their fees refunded as part of a government effort to slash a years-long program backlog.

Before this surprise turn of events, they would have had to reapply under new criteria if they still wanted to come to Canada even though many had been waiting years in the queue.

Kenney, however, dismissed the suggestion that granting permanent residency to a select few by virtue of an administrative error may be construed as unfair to the thousands who were not impacted by the glitch and remain out of luck in terms of their bid to come to Canada.

“There's a fairness argument both ways. I think it would be fundamentally unfair to the people who have received visas, who wrapped up their affairs in their home country, acted in good faith, some apparently have come to Canada, to tell them to leave so it's a question of the lesser of two evils in a sense,” he said.

“We have chosen to not punish people who have acted in good faith and who we told to come to Canada. I think that's the best solution.”

NDP immigration critic Jinny Sims said she's “pleased” the government has acknowledged that a mistake was made and that it's redressing it, but believes the incident highlights a bigger problem.

“The real mistake is the deletion of all those files in a very unfair manner and the fast pace the minister is changing immigration policies,” she said, adding the pace of change has left little time to ensure a smooth transition, let alone adequate Parliamentary oversight.

Leading Canadian immigration lawyer Richard Kurland agreed Kenney made the right move and doubts the government will face any legal headaches from those not impacted by the glitch as the minister has the authority to grant permanent residency in exceptional circumstances.

The government also has a right to terminate visas after they've been issued, he said, noting it happens all the time in cases where a Canadian sponsor or principal applicant dies, for example.

Meanwhile, Kurland said there have also been glitches the other way with respect to the government's decision to eliminate the backlog by tossing pre-2008 applications. He's currently handling about eight cases in which applicants were issued refusal letters when in fact they were eligible for visas.
miracle
 

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jevan said:
do u think that hearing schedule is in suspect now?
Yes the hearing may be postpond. But we have another hearing on 14 Jan.
 

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kiwi1 said:
lucky!!!!


http://www.vancouversun.com/news/national/Rejected+immigrants+golden+ticket+Canada+thanks+computer/7591563/story.html


Rejected immigrants get golden ticket to Canada thanks to computer glitch


OTTAWA — About 150 newcomers got lucky Wednesday after the government decided to grant them permanent residency even though their immigration applications were unceremoniously tossed thanks to the recent budget.

Immigration Minister Jason Kenney announced he was using his ministerial powers to allow them to stay because a computer glitch issued them visas by mistake.

The move comes after some of the people had already arrived in Canada, including a Moroccan family that showed up at the airport in Montreal on Friday only to learn their visas were invalid, according to a report by the French language newspaper La Presse.

“It was an administrative error on the part of my ministry,” Kenney said, noting Citizenship and Immigration is changing its IT system and in the process, some visas were issued automatically by mistake.

“We make over two million decisions a year, about 7,000 a day. We are making a major IT change so I think it's understandable that a small error of this nature would be made.”

Kenney said the newcomers in question all qualify to immigrate to Canada as they've passed their security screening and have been deemed admissible. While it's not clear how many had already arrived only to be told their visa was invalid, Kenney said anybody who did and left, is now welcome to return.

The error affected about 50 principal applicants from a dozen different countries who applied through the federal skilled worker program with their families prior to Feb. 27, 2008 and had not yet been assessed.

The group was among some 280,000 applicants and dependents who were told their paperwork was to be destroyed and their fees refunded as part of a government effort to slash a years-long program backlog.

Before this surprise turn of events, they would have had to reapply under new criteria if they still wanted to come to Canada even though many had been waiting years in the queue.

Kenney, however, dismissed the suggestion that granting permanent residency to a select few by virtue of an administrative error may be construed as unfair to the thousands who were not impacted by the glitch and remain out of luck in terms of their bid to come to Canada.

“There's a fairness argument both ways. I think it would be fundamentally unfair to the people who have received visas, who wrapped up their affairs in their home country, acted in good faith, some apparently have come to Canada, to tell them to leave so it's a question of the lesser of two evils in a sense,” he said.

“We have chosen to not punish people who have acted in good faith and who we told to come to Canada. I think that's the best solution.”

NDP immigration critic Jinny Sims said she's “pleased” the government has acknowledged that a mistake was made and that it's redressing it, but believes the incident highlights a bigger problem.

“The real mistake is the deletion of all those files in a very unfair manner and the fast pace the minister is changing immigration policies,” she said, adding the pace of change has left little time to ensure a smooth transition, let alone adequate Parliamentary oversight.

Leading Canadian immigration lawyer Richard Kurland agreed Kenney made the right move and doubts the government will face any legal headaches from those not impacted by the glitch as the minister has the authority to grant permanent residency in exceptional circumstances.

The government also has a right to terminate visas after they've been issued, he said, noting it happens all the time in cases where a Canadian sponsor or principal applicant dies, for example.

Meanwhile, Kurland said there have also been glitches the other way with respect to the government's decision to eliminate the backlog by tossing pre-2008 applications. He's currently handling about eight cases in which applicants were issued refusal letters when in fact they were eligible for visas.
This is what called making history, more to come you will see.
 

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Now I fully understand the following news


CIC Wins Technology Award for the Come to Canada Wizard



Ottawa, November 6, 2012
 

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Earlier Cic was doing Tamaashaa. Now Judges and Consultants are doing this . In fact Poor Backlooers are hijacked by these agencies for their advantage. God wii ultimatly give Justice. Have Patience.
 

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“There's a fairness argument both ways. I think it would be fundamentally unfair to the people who have received visas, who wrapped up their affairs in their home country, acted in good faith, some apparently have come to Canada, to tell them to leave so it's a question of the lesser of two evils in a sense,” he said.

“We have chosen to not punish people who have acted in good faith and who we told to come to Canada. I think that's the best solution.”

What is different please check below if I applied the same for us pre-2008


“There's a fairness argument both ways. I think it would be fundamentally unfair to the people who have waited so long to received visas, who wrapped up their affairs in their home country, acted in good faith, some apparently have come to Canada among pre-2008, to tell them to leave your application so it's a question of the lesser of two evils in a sense,” he said.

“We have chosen to not punish people who have acted in good faith and who we told to apply to come to Canada. I think that's the best solution.”
 

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“We make over two million decisions a year, about 7,000 a day. We are making a major IT change so I think it's understandable that a small error of this nature would be made.”

This is mathematical problem with minister if 2000000 / 365 = 5479.45 not 7000.

Minister missed to add that he has also made one decision covering 2.8 million applications in one day.
 

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“We make over two million decisions a year, about 7,000 a day. We are making a major IT change so I think it's understandable that a small error of this nature would be made.”


So if minister making a major Immigration policy change so I think it's understandable a small error (Canada’s Jobs, Growth and Long-Term Prosperity Act) of this nature would be made. ;D
 

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wounderful said:
Now I fully understand the following news


CIC Wins Technology Award for the Come to Canada Wizard



Ottawa, November 6, 2012

Great observation :)
 

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now it seems no hearing on 23 / 30 . test cases hearing on 14th jan. What is happening is not clear at all??
what about Tim's motion ? hearing on 14th will be against bill 38 or also for tim's motion as his cases are also included. No updates from any lawyers except something from Tim who didnt attend 14th conf. , but 6 other lawyers did. How ironical and surprising!!!!!!