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pocketchoi

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Ok, so I applied CEC as Housekeeping Supervisor (NOC code: 6315).

On Schedule 8, form says I need to write down jobs that I've had for 3 years, so I wrote my supervisor job and other jobs which are not under CEC criteria(they are C or D level occupation.

Then, CIO said, my NOC(s) are not acceptable under CEC.

Yes, they are not acceptable, but I've work for the job which should be totally fine to be accepted.
Or I should've only put supervisor position on that section? I am really really confused now.
 

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pocketchoi said:
Ok, so I applied CEC as Housekeeping Supervisor (NOC code: 6315).

On Schedule 8, form says I need to write down jobs that I've had for 3 years, so I wrote my supervisor job and other jobs which are not under CEC criteria(they are C or D level occupation.

Then, CIO said, my NOC(s) are not acceptable under CEC.

Yes, they are not acceptable, but I've work for the job which should be totally fine to be accepted.
Or I should've only put supervisor position on that section? I am really really confused now.
Remove personal information and paste the letter here. You can't claim non-skilled work for CEC but you should still list those jobs in employment history (no need for NOC).

I suspect however that even your "main" NOC was deemed inadequate.
 

tdot_guy

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So tou are saying one should not put noc code for non skilled work?
 

Vik1112

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In Schedule 8 you're supposed to write only jobs that fall under categories 0, A or B, and which you claim as part of your experience towards CEC. Other jobs (C,D) you put in Schedule A Background/personal history form.
 

sheena231

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Did u proved combined work exp of both noc codes...


As i believe history u can put but ur total exp shd b in noc O,a b only of 12 months minimum.... if u have added noc c or d job m sure they wl return or sorry to say refuse the application..
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tdot_guy

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@vik1112- schedule 8 form doesnt say anything about NOC 0 A or B it only says list occupations in the last 3 years followed by question asking if you were a student during above listed period which would involve part time work duting studies which is usually not skilled for most ppl.
Please share where u got the info from
Thanks
 

pocketchoi

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Thank you all.

There is other questions.

Would I still be able to use all the documents from my own country, but there are about 4 months old:)issued Oct 31st, 2013)?
Also, I took CELPIP, but they already opened the envelope when they got my application. Can I still use it?

So, basically, I'm wondering if I can still use all my documents again.

Oh, Plus. Should I give reference letters, T4s, and etc from my jobs which are not under CEC criteria?
or only just details documents from current job(supervisor)?

Thank you :)
 

sheena231

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Pocketchoi...did u receive AOR if yes pls can u share when u applied ...or it returned before AOR
 

Vik1112

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tdot_guy said:
@ vik1112- schedule 8 form doesnt say anything about NOC 0 A or B it only says list occupations in the last 3 years followed by question asking if you were a student during above listed period which would involve part time work duting studies which is usually not skilled for most ppl.
Please share where u got the info from
Thanks
Here you go tdot! A quote from the instructional guide 5609 for filling out the form.

Question 5
Write the details of your work experience in Canada.

List your occupations within the 3 years preceding the date your application is made starting with your current occupation. List only occupations that fall in Skill Type 0 or Skill Levels A or B of the National Occupational Classification (NOC) code.For each occupation listed, provide the following details:
•the period of employment,
•the appropriate NOC code and occupation description,
•the name of your employer(s),
•a description of your main duties, and
•the number of hours you worked per week.

In addition, I'm giving an advice to Pocketchoi based on my own successful application, and similar experience as I also had two jobs at the same time one of which was skilled and another wasn't.
 

pocketchoi

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Morning,
Could some one answer my last question please?
So I will ask my parents back home I renew my dictum wants asap if it's needed.

Also, do I need to get reference letters from all my precious work?
Or just only from job under CEC case?

Thank you.
 

steveholt

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pocketchoi said:
Also, do I need to get reference letters from all my precious work?
Or just only from job under CEC case?
Only the ones that you are claiming as skilled work experience for CEC.
 

Goku

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So just tell me what should I include in that form?

March 2013- Present Bookkeeping Supervisor (NOC: 1212)
Dec 2012- Feb 2013: Accounting Bookkeeper (NOC: 1311)

Hope to get answer soon. :)
 

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pocketchoi said:
Could some one answer my last question please?
So I will ask my parents back home I renew my dictum wants asap if it's needed.

Sorry, I have no idea what that is.

Also, do I need to get reference letters from all my precious work?
Or just only from job under CEC case?

Skilled work in Canada over the past 3 years.
 

Vik1112

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Goku said:
So just tell me what should I include in that form?

March 2013- Present Bookkeeping Supervisor (NOC: 1212)
Dec 2012- Feb 2013: Accounting Bookkeeper (NOC: 1311)

Hope to get answer soon. :)
Hi Goku,

In schedule 8 you include only the experience that qualifies you for CEC.
So in your case that would be: March 2013- Present Bookkeeping Supervisor (NOC: 1212). You do not have to include NOC 1311 because it is no longer eligible.
Please note that if that is your real timeline you will not be able to apply CEC until March 2014 (I see Feb 28th on the left) when you have one year full time experience in NOC 1212, and your reference letter should be dated accordingly.
 

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Vik1112 said:
Hi Goku,

In schedule 8 you include only the experience that qualifies you for CEC.
So in your case that would be: March 2013- Present Bookkeeping Supervisor (NOC: 1212). You do not have to include NOC 1311 because it is no longer eligible.
Please note that if that is your real timeline you will not be able to apply CEC until March 2014 (I see Feb 28th on the left) when you have one year full time experience in NOC 1212, and your reference letter should be dated accordingly.

Thanks man just wanted to make sure. I will complete my 1 year exp. on 24th feb, 2014 so I am going to send my file on 28th feb 2014. Just to avoid some miscalculation.