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Ray of Hope - 82nd Draw

jagan4u

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Aug 21, 2017
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Hi Folks,

I have a question. My brother got his COPR and He might be doing landing somewhat next week. Do you know when can I claims 15 points for sibling?

Thanks in advance.
You can modify your profile immediately post his landing..i claimed my points that way..
 

Aryaansohaali

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Nov 20, 2017
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With 2750 ITAs being issued in each draw, you should just hope and pray that the next draw happens on or before Jan 24th.
Hope you get an ITA soon! All the best!
And probability is strong for a draw before 24 jan because as far as I can remember we have never had a consecutive 3 weeks gap between 2 consecutive draws (can anyone correct me if i am wrong)
 

vensak

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2 750 for 25 to 26 draws is a very healthy estimation to meet their quotas:
Amount of immigrants NOT APPROVED APPLICATIONS needed:
75 000 - with direct CRS
1/3 of 55 000 = 18 400 PNP that will go through EE
93 400 immigrants to pass through EE (this includes spouses and children).

2 750 x 25 = 68 750 - ITA
with the 40% waste rate - 49 100 successful application
with average family size of 1.9 (main applicants and all dependants) = 93 290 approved immigrants.

So they only need 25 to 26 draws of this size to fulfill the quota - that equals one draw every to 2 weeks

If they need to slow down the system (to clear backlog on old applications) all they will to is to have few draws with bigger gaps

And that is all they need.

Of course all those calculations are based on estimated amount of PNP applicants, waste rate of ITA and the family size.

Good luck everybody.
 
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hap21

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Aug 16, 2017
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As it turns out 2750 wasn't just for 2017 end. May be they have arrived at this magical number which does multiple tasks for them :
- Minimize the backlogs
- Keep inviting candidates having higher CRS since the rate of new profiles has been and will be healthy for time to come.

I'm waiting at 431 and have CLB10. As much as I would like the CRS to drop, a rational thought also states that express entry is an economic immigration program and it's natural for CRS to prefer candidates with higher score as long as possible.

Only back to back draws here or there would bring it to 430-431 I think!

Nevertheless, let the hope be strong. Good luck all !
 

abhishek_89

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Feb 9, 2017
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Category........
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NOC Code......
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App. Filed.......
26-05-2017
AOR Received.
26-05-2017
Med's Done....
22-05-2017
Passport Req..
24-07-2017
VISA ISSUED...
04-08-2017
LANDED..........
16-03-2018
With regular draws

Abhishek - Why do you think CIC won't meet 75000 quota with 2750 every 2 weeks?
I assume the quota which you are talking about is the PR quota through the FSW + FST + CEC programs. Please note Express Entry also includes certain PNP programs too.

Also, 1 ITA does not always equal to 1 PR due to the below mentioned reasons:
1) ITA can be declined
2) ITA would expire if applicant does not submit application within 90 days
3) If applicant applies after ITA, the application can be cancelled or rejected
4) 1 ITA can include 2 PR's (Primary applicant + spouse)

CIC issued over 85,000 ITAs in 2017. Let's assume the ITA counts for 2018 would be same as 2017 even though the overall PR target is slightly higher this year. This means 85000 ITAs to be issued in 2018. If there are 26 draws (only bi-weekly draws), they would need to issue around 85,000/26 = approx 3250 ITAs per draw OR they need to have around 31 draws with 2750 ITAs which will lead to some 1-week gap draws.

All this is assuming the ITAs issued in 2018 will atleast be same as that issued in 2017.
 

Karthick_88

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Jan 3, 2018
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I assume the quota which you are talking about is the PR quota through the FSW + FST + CEC programs. Please note Express Entry also includes certain PNP programs too.

Also, 1 ITA does not always equal to 1 PR due to the below mentioned reasons:
1) ITA can be declined
2) ITA would expire if applicant does not submit application within 90 days
3) If applicant applies after ITA, the application can be cancelled or rejected
4) 1 ITA can include 2 PR's (Primary applicant + spouse)

CIC issued over 85,000 ITAs in 2017. Let's assume the ITA counts for 2018 would be same as 2017 even though the overall PR target is slightly higher this year. This means 85000 ITAs to be issued in 2018. If there are 26 draws (only bi-weekly draws), they would need to issue around 85,000/26 = approx 3250 ITAs per draw OR they need to have around 31 draws with 2750 ITAs which will lead to some 1-week gap draws.

All this is assuming the ITAs issued in 2018 will atleast be same as that issued in 2017.
Now it's a 3 year target instead of 1 earlier.. Hence they can relax at the start (that is now).. or am I wrong ?
 

abhishek_89

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Feb 9, 2017
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Category........
FSW
NOC Code......
2173
App. Filed.......
26-05-2017
AOR Received.
26-05-2017
Med's Done....
22-05-2017
Passport Req..
24-07-2017
VISA ISSUED...
04-08-2017
LANDED..........
16-03-2018
And probability is strong for a draw before 24 jan because as far as I can remember we have never had a consecutive 3 weeks gap between 2 consecutive draws (can anyone correct me if i am wrong)
It has happened long back in 2015 but not in the last 2 years.
 
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JJ_87

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Jan 10, 2018
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I assume the quota which you are talking about is the PR quota through the FSW + FST + CEC programs. Please note Express Entry also includes certain PNP programs too.

Also, 1 ITA does not always equal to 1 PR due to the below mentioned reasons:
1) ITA can be declined
2) ITA would expire if applicant does not submit application within 90 days
3) If applicant applies after ITA, the application can be cancelled or rejected
4) 1 ITA can include 2 PR's (Primary applicant + spouse)

CIC issued over 85,000 ITAs in 2017. Let's assume the ITA counts for 2018 would be same as 2017 even though the overall PR target is slightly higher this year. This means 85000 ITAs to be issued in 2018. If there are 26 draws (only bi-weekly draws), they would need to issue around 85,000/26 = approx 3250 ITAs per draw OR they need to have around 31 draws with 2750 ITAs which will lead to some 1-week gap draws.

All this is assuming the ITAs issued in 2018 will atleast be same as that issued in 2017.
I was thinking on the same lines. I just hope you are right !!