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[ElvisRamaj]

This is totally false. Relative to what is needed, the number is very very modest. Canada has some very well defined limits to immigration which are given in level plan.

Secondly, Canada's immigration has been very heavy on higher skilled individuals while lower skilled individual in construction for instance simply does not get any focus. If a worker wants to work in Canadian construction industry for instance, he already needs to have a trade certification in Canada. Needless to say, lower skill trade workers are in short supply. Look at time it takes to get a plumber, electricians and general construction workers. Construction and repairs take very long.

Canada needs a different channel for immigration for trades which allows easier intake of workers in those areas. And it needs higher immigration levels.

Also, it needs to streamline its immigration processes.


Wrong. It is possible to out-immigrate the greying population. It is just not as politically "popular".

Also, Canada has been historically heavy on skilled immigration. It is just not equally curious about so called "essential" workers. And secondly, Canada has not been very active in enabling the immigrants. Regulations and cartels have been major blocking issues. Like doctors who immigrated here do not have a simple or fast path to practice or work in a hospital.

Well, we clearly have different fundamental views and opinions aswell on immigration, and apparently even on the use of words.

So, let's just agree to disagree.

 

[ImpatientDragon]

Well, we clearly have different fundamental views and opinions aswell on immigration, and apparently even on the use of words.

So, let's just agree to disagree.

@ElvisRamaj means - I don't care about all this anymore just give me my ITA and then I will vanish.

 

[ElvisRamaj]

@ElvisRamaj means - I don't care about all this anymore just give me my ITA and then I will vanish.

Yes, I do want that ITA and to tell you the truth I really do care since I will hopefully be calling Canada my new home.

Everyone has their views on immigratiom but I like to base mine on actual examples around the world to arrive at conclusions. We have enough evidence on the benefits and cons of immigration worldwide to make absolutely currect assumptions of what will happen in the future with each decision taken right now.

 

[ashu2111]

Hello again mateys,

I would like to ask you all another question. Does being unemployed hurt your chances for Canadian immigration? There was a time when I was sitting at home doing nothing at all learning French all by myself! And also helping out my family with stuff. I wonder if this is something that will kill me on the background check? Also, when I was in PGWP on Canada, I had a gap period too as I was looking for jobs in my field of study (that I never found).

I do hope that IRCC doesn't use this against me to reject my application. Any thoughts?

 

[RSub]

Hello again mateys,

I would like to ask you all another question. Does being unemployed hurt your chances for Canadian immigration? There was a time when I was sitting at home doing nothing at all learning French all by myself! And also helping out my family with stuff. I wonder if this is something that will kill me on the background check? Also, when I was in PGWP on Canada, I had a gap period too as I was looking for jobs in my field of study (that I never found).

I do hope that IRCC doesn't use this against me to reject my application. Any thoughts?

I quit my job and stayed at home for 10 months before starting my MBA. Did absolutely nothing but eat, eat, and eat. Got my PPR in April.

 

[ashu2111]

I quit my job and stayed at home for 10 months before starting my MBA. Did absolutely nothing but eat, eat, and eat. Got my PPR in April.

Awesome. So happy for you! My gap is more than 10 months but I can justify most of it as I was learning French at home. Btw, when you were filling your schedule A, did you clarify in detail what you were doing or just wrote "unemployed"?

 

[Deleted member 1006777]

Awesome. So happy for you! My gap is more than 10 months but I can justify most of it as I was learning French at home. Btw, when you were filling your schedule A, did you clarify in detail what you were doing or just wrote "unemployed"?

Damn you really take every opportunity to bring up the fact that you learnt french, don't you?

 

[GandiBaat]

@ElvisRamaj means - I don't care about all this anymore just give me my ITA and then I will vanish.

Apparently, my thinking is sort of looking like conservatives -- as far as immigration, labour and housing goes.

https://www.timescolonist.com/local-news/conservative-leadership-frontrunner-poilievre-hits-vancouver-island-5751358

“The federal government flooded the economy with easy cash over the last two years. That boosted demand and the local governments have blocked supply with government gatekeeping,”

You tell them Poilievre!

The Conservative leadership candidate would require all federally funded transit stations to have pre-approved permits for high-density housing on surrounding city land.

Yum! Higher density in and around transit stations

The feds must also expedite immigration for construction workers needed to build homes

I can live with that!

Employers who cannot find workers in Canada should be able to sponsor skilled immigrant workers much faster than what the current system allows, Poilievre said.

Yes, and Yes!

Poilievre said he prefers the Express Entry model geared towards skilled workers but that it should be expanded to a broader range of occupations.

Indeed!

Poilievre also proposes creating standardized testing for immigrant professionals such as medical doctors. It would be up to provinces to opt in.

Absolute-fluffing-ly. Don't make taxi drivers out of GPs.

That being said, Conservatives are also known to sneak poison pills in everything they do. When they did EE, they cancelled anyone who had an application pending instead of transitioning them to EE. So! I am not really convinced with them.

 

[RSub]

Awesome. So happy for you! My gap is more than 10 months but I can justify most of it as I was learning French at home. Btw, when you were filling your schedule A, did you clarify in detail what you were doing or just wrote "unemployed"?

I wrote unemployed. IRCC doesn't care if you were unemployed for 10 years as long as you have the points. You don't need to justify anything.

 

[GandiBaat]

If Canada continues with the same approach, it will face the same problem forever.

Think about it, its year 2070, you already have 60 million people, perhaps 20 million retirees, what is the plan now ? Bring another 20 million to maintain the same standard of living ? Okay!

Now its year 2100, you have 30 million retirees, still a lot of jobs to fill, you need another 30 million to maintain the same standard of living, what do you do now ? Bring on board another 30 million ?

You see, its never ending, right ?

I will like to draw your attention to this : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Canada#Age_characteristics

Specially this graphics :

Do you see that fat boom that starts at around 1955 and keeps on moving forward? Thats is baby boom, through various years. That you need to accommodate in your planning to keep supporting the social security system and health care. And thats your answer to "How long" and "how many retirees". Its simple : As much as that boom needs support. Once you have a demography that can support the boomers and you keep on intaking that many as those who leave the economy due to retirement, your immigration numbers should stabilize. Two assumptions :

1. Natives do not suddenly start producing more babies.
2. Some future tech does not drastically increase life spans of humans from what it is today.

So yes, there is a saturation point and it is around how many they will need to support boomers.

 

[Jennyababy]

Vancouver VO please wake up. Who can set Vancouver VO alarm-off. There are now sleeping as usual

 

[ashu2111]

Damn you really take every opportunity to bring up the fact that you learnt french, don't you?

Arghh! Maybe I didn't notice it that I'm doing it so much. Lol. I was really busy the last few months passing my TCF and obviously it was all really hard so maybe there is an internal insecurity that nothing ever goes wrong. But thanks for pointing it out, I'll will try not to mention it so much hahaha.

 

[ashu2111]

I wrote unemployed. IRCC doesn't care if you were unemployed for 10 years as long as you have the points. You don't need to justify anything.

Hmm very interesting. I was wondering if they can keep you on the BG for a long time if they feel your unemployment time was too long. But hopefully not.

 

[GandiBaat]

Hmm very interesting. I was wondering if they can keep you on the BG for a long time if they feel your unemployment time was too long. But hopefully not.

Immigration is highly beaurocratic process. It has steps :

1. Eligibility
2. Admissibily

Eligibility establishes you are qualify the criteria.

Admissibility establishes if you are allowed to enter Canada as a PR: ie you are not a criminal (Politicians or Bankers are all okay though), you have enough money and you are not too sick or having some disease that you will spread in the pristine Canadian homeless drug users or will get in the way of 100 year old gramps who want to get their MRI done since 1997.

These two steps are done by different Analysts and at times different departments. There is RCMP for criminal record, there is Health Canada for your medicals, there is CBSA for checking your immigration adventures and there is CSIS for finding out if you are 007 on Her Majesty's Secret Service.

All of these folks put their report in a central electronic document called GCMS. After all of them are done, a senior VO looks and approves. So, while your entire file is attached to GCMS, they typically depend upon analysis done by the junior Analysts. If Junior Analyst has raised some issue as "Review Required" the senior VO will then really look at it.

Mostly, its a rule based system. So BG (admissibility) folks will typically not look into your Eligibility data and vice versa.

 

[seadrag0n]

Hmm very interesting. I was wondering if they can keep you on the BG for a long time if they feel your unemployment time was too long. But hopefully not.

IRCC doesn't care about that as you will be meeting the requirements of the immigration program and they will have no reason to refuse but maybe potential employers will after you land.