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Wrong NOC after AOR (Urgent)

dsdsdscdscad

Full Member
Jun 3, 2018
43
8
Dear All,

I submitted my PR application a month ago. Now I'm on P1. I have 2 questions regarding the NOC I picked.

I'm an associate scientist at a Pharma, where I focused on bioanalytical chemistry. When I submitted my application, I picked NOC 2121-Biologist and related scientists. However, I just discovered my job description is more matched with NOC 2112-chemist, which includes biochemistry. In addition, NOC2112 is in the "Exclusion(s)" list of NOC2121.

Both NOC belongs to A skill level. I really don't want get rejected because I've already planned a lot once I get PR card.

I don't have to retreat my application since it's on P1. Do I need to raise a CSE (Case Specific Enquiry) immediately and explain this situation? OR, it doesn't matter since they are both in Skill A and VO will decide which NOC that can be used?


Besides, there a employment requirement under NOC-chemist :
  • Licensing by a provincial association of chemists is required in Quebec, and available but voluntary in Nova Scotia, Ontario, Alberta and British Columbia.
The license is voluntary in Ontario. I chose Ontario as my landing location, so I don't need a license from province. Is it correct?

Thank you in advance. I appreciate all the possible help and suggestions!

Best regards,

'
 

mr.preetsingh

VIP Member
Oct 26, 2017
5,987
1,180
Canada
Category........
FSW
NOC Code......
2171
App. Filed.......
14-04-2018
Doc's Request.
NA
Nomination.....
NA
AOR Received.
14-04-2018
IELTS Request
NA
File Transfer...
NA
Med's Request
Upfront
Med's Done....
07-04-2018
Interview........
NA
Passport Req..
19-06-2018
VISA ISSUED...
25-06-2018
LANDED..........
06-09-2018
Dear All,

I submitted my PR application a month ago. Now I'm on P1. I have 2 questions regarding the NOC I picked.

I'm an associate scientist at a Pharma, where I focused on bioanalytical chemistry. When I submitted my application, I picked NOC 2121-Biologist and related scientists. However, I just discovered my job description is more matched with NOC 2112-chemist, which includes biochemistry. In addition, NOC2112 is in the "Exclusion(s)" list of NOC2121.

Both NOC belongs to A skill level. I really don't want get rejected because I've already planned a lot once I get PR card.

I don't have to retreat my application since it's on P1. Do I need to raise a CSE (Case Specific Enquiry) immediately and explain this situation? OR, it doesn't matter since they are both in Skill A and VO will decide which NOC that can be used?


Besides, there a employment requirement under NOC-chemist :
  • Licensing by a provincial association of chemists is required in Quebec, and available but voluntary in Nova Scotia, Ontario, Alberta and British Columbia.
The license is voluntary in Ontario. I chose Ontario as my landing location, so I don't need a license from province. Is it correct?

Thank you in advance. I appreciate all the possible help and suggestions!

Best regards,

'
If the job duties mentioned on your reference letter matches with NOC that you have selected, then your file will be processed else it will be rejected.

You can raise a CSE if you think your job duties in reference letter are not matching with NOC that you have selected.
 

EE456

Champion Member
Jul 4, 2018
1,095
448
If your duties are consistent at least 60-70 % with the lead statement and duties mentioned in the NOC that you had chosen during your E-APR you would be fine, if not, raise a CSE and request the NOC to be rectified.

For your second question, correct.
 

dsdsdscdscad

Full Member
Jun 3, 2018
43
8
If your duties are consistent at least 60-70 % with the lead statement and duties mentioned in the NOC that you had chosen during your E-APR you would be fine, if not, raise a CSE and request the NOC to be rectified.

For your second question, correct.
Thank you very much!! I just submitted my CSE. Hope it works!!!!!
 

NZ_ozzie

Hero Member
Sep 4, 2018
888
232
Category........
FSW
App. Filed.......
10-11-2018
Doc's Request.
11-12-2018
AOR Received.
10-11-2018
Med's Done....
11-12-2018
VISA ISSUED...
05-06-2019
Dear All,

I submitted my PR application a month ago. Now I'm on P1. I have 2 questions regarding the NOC I picked.

I'm an associate scientist at a Pharma, where I focused on bioanalytical chemistry. When I submitted my application, I picked NOC 2121-Biologist and related scientists. However, I just discovered my job description is more matched with NOC 2112-chemist, which includes biochemistry. In addition, NOC2112 is in the "Exclusion(s)" list of NOC2121.

Both NOC belongs to A skill level. I really don't want get rejected because I've already planned a lot once I get PR card.

I don't have to retreat my application since it's on P1. Do I need to raise a CSE (Case Specific Enquiry) immediately and explain this situation? OR, it doesn't matter since they are both in Skill A and VO will decide which NOC that can be used?


Besides, there a employment requirement under NOC-chemist :
  • Licensing by a provincial association of chemists is required in Quebec, and available but voluntary in Nova Scotia, Ontario, Alberta and British Columbia.
The license is voluntary in Ontario. I chose Ontario as my landing location, so I don't need a license from province. Is it correct?

Thank you in advance. I appreciate all the possible help and suggestions!

Best regards,

'
Did you end up getting your NOC changed? And then PPR?
 

NZ_ozzie

Hero Member
Sep 4, 2018
888
232
Category........
FSW
App. Filed.......
10-11-2018
Doc's Request.
11-12-2018
AOR Received.
10-11-2018
Med's Done....
11-12-2018
VISA ISSUED...
05-06-2019
Thanks for you reply!
this gives me hope.
so you ordered GCMS and rectified all the problems
How long after aor did you apply for the notes?
Thanks!
Hi All,

I would like to leave a long post for future applicants that might be in same situation as me.

AOR - 10th Nov., 2018
COPR - 5th June, 2019

Nationality - New Zealand citizen residing in Australia

I processed my application through a lawyer in Canada so most of the blunders below are not my fault even though I have to take ownership of these as I was supposed to double check everything and not just leave it all to him.

1) On 10th Nov. (a day after submitting my application) I found out (through Canadavisa.com) that I had submitted incorrect PCC for Australia.

I had uploaded Australian Federal Police Clearance obtained using the ‘purpose of reason’ as “33 – Immigration/Citizenship – for supply to the Department of Immigration and Border Protection” but after going through Canadavisaforum.com I realised the correct ‘purpose of reason’ required by IRCC is “35 – Overseas Employment/visas – for supply to a country other than Australia”. Straight away I requested new PCC, requested Australian Federal Police Dept. to expedite my request. Got it in 3 days and raised a CSE to upload the correct PCCs on 15th Nov. 2018. I was scared for next 30 days as R10 check happens in about 30-35 days post AOR and most people get rejections for incorrect documents (mostly incorrect PCCs) at this stage.

2) Cleared MEP on 11th Dec. 2018 and at the same time received an ADR to submit Mexican Police Clearance. I have to mention here I was asked for Mexican Police Clearance during my initial upload of documents as well but Mexico only issues PCCs if you have a request letter from IRCC. So in the place holder for Mexican Police Clearance I had uploaded a document stating I am unable to obtain PCC without IRCC request letter. So they sent that letter on 11th Dec., 2018. For Mexico police clearance there is 2 ways of obtaining it – through IRCC consulate in Mexico (takes about 60 days for entire process) or find a local lawyer that will obtain on your behalf. I submitted through both ways – Sent completed application to IRCC Mexico for PCC and also applied through lawyer. It took me a month to find a lawyer that understood English. Anyways lawyer took 11 days and I submitted the PCC at the end of Jan, 2019.

3) Ordered Notes on 2nd Feb. 2019. On 6th Feb. 2019, called IRCC to confirm if my Mexico PCC has been attached. The agent was super nice and told me my eligibility is ‘NOT MET’ due to NOC mismatch. It was a shock to me. Anyways I went back to my application, checked all the forms I had submitted and found out 2 major mistakes. 1st in my address history I had put in incorrect year of stay in Mexico. I was only in Mexico for 4 days but by mistake chose wrong year so my stay became 1 year and 4 days hence the stupid request for Mexican PCC. 2nd big blunder was choosing NOC code 2281 as opposed to 2282(which is my correct NOC). So I wrote a very detailed CSE requesting a NOC rectification and also address rectification. Even though it was my lawyer that did all the mistakes, I had to take ownership and fix those.

A week after I found out about these blunders, I fired my lawyer.

Feb. end I received my first set of GCMS notes and as per last notes by Case Processing Agent - ----------------------- Ml3

SUMMARY NOTES: CLIENT DID NOT MEET MEC AS THEY DID NOT PROVIDE ENOUGH EVIDENCE OF ATLEAST 1 YEAR WORK EXPERIENCE IN THE REQUIRED PRIMARY NOC. PRIMARY NOC ON APPLICATION IS 2281 - COMPUTER NETWORK TECHNICIANS AND ALL OF PA'S WORK EXPERIENCE IS IN NOC 2282- USER SUPPORT TECHNICIANS.

A11.2: NOT MET


It was just a waiting game after this until end of March, 2019 when my file moved to local VO in a mass file movement that happened.
I ordered notes End of March’19 – Still have not received them.
Re-ordered notes mid-May’19 – still have not received them.

Lessons Learnt:

Never use a lawyer but If you do never ever rely on them solely.

Check your application at least 10 times and always get a second set of eyes to proof read everything.

Very important – Start calling up IRCC around 3rd month mark. Order GCMS notes by end of 3rd month. PLEASE DO NOT , I repeat, DO NOT LISTEN TO ANYONE that tells you not to order notes as it has negative impact on your application. It is all bull****. Just imagine IRCC rejects your file for ordering notes, you take IRCC to court- How stupid would IRCC look in court…Just think logically and don’t listen to idiotic advice.

When I got Eligibility not met everyone started discouraging me, saying it is sure shot refusal. I didn’t give up because I knew even though I did commit silly mistakes, I had sent through CSEs requesting rectifications. So any agent/lawyer/person tells you not to raise CSE until IRCC asks for it, kick him/her out of the door before it is too late. Send CSEs regularly….
 

Harshil sinha

Newbie
Apr 14, 2020
5
1
Thank you!
I'm sure this helps everyone in a situation where rectification is required!
I too have uploaded a cse with the change in noc code. hope it works.







Hi All,

I would like to leave a long post for future applicants that might be in same situation as me.

AOR - 10th Nov., 2018
COPR - 5th June, 2019

Nationality - New Zealand citizen residing in Australia

I processed my application through a lawyer in Canada so most of the blunders below are not my fault even though I have to take ownership of these as I was supposed to double check everything and not just leave it all to him.

1) On 10th Nov. (a day after submitting my application) I found out (through Canadavisa.com) that I had submitted incorrect PCC for Australia.

I had uploaded Australian Federal Police Clearance obtained using the ‘purpose of reason’ as “33 – Immigration/Citizenship – for supply to the Department of Immigration and Border Protection” but after going through Canadavisaforum.com I realised the correct ‘purpose of reason’ required by IRCC is “35 – Overseas Employment/visas – for supply to a country other than Australia”. Straight away I requested new PCC, requested Australian Federal Police Dept. to expedite my request. Got it in 3 days and raised a CSE to upload the correct PCCs on 15th Nov. 2018. I was scared for next 30 days as R10 check happens in about 30-35 days post AOR and most people get rejections for incorrect documents (mostly incorrect PCCs) at this stage.

2) Cleared MEP on 11th Dec. 2018 and at the same time received an ADR to submit Mexican Police Clearance. I have to mention here I was asked for Mexican Police Clearance during my initial upload of documents as well but Mexico only issues PCCs if you have a request letter from IRCC. So in the place holder for Mexican Police Clearance I had uploaded a document stating I am unable to obtain PCC without IRCC request letter. So they sent that letter on 11th Dec., 2018. For Mexico police clearance there is 2 ways of obtaining it – through IRCC consulate in Mexico (takes about 60 days for entire process) or find a local lawyer that will obtain on your behalf. I submitted through both ways – Sent completed application to IRCC Mexico for PCC and also applied through lawyer. It took me a month to find a lawyer that understood English. Anyways lawyer took 11 days and I submitted the PCC at the end of Jan, 2019.

3) Ordered Notes on 2nd Feb. 2019. On 6th Feb. 2019, called IRCC to confirm if my Mexico PCC has been attached. The agent was super nice and told me my eligibility is ‘NOT MET’ due to NOC mismatch. It was a shock to me. Anyways I went back to my application, checked all the forms I had submitted and found out 2 major mistakes. 1st in my address history I had put in incorrect year of stay in Mexico. I was only in Mexico for 4 days but by mistake chose wrong year so my stay became 1 year and 4 days hence the stupid request for Mexican PCC. 2nd big blunder was choosing NOC code 2281 as opposed to 2282(which is my correct NOC). So I wrote a very detailed CSE requesting a NOC rectification and also address rectification. Even though it was my lawyer that did all the mistakes, I had to take ownership and fix those.

A week after I found out about these blunders, I fired my lawyer.

Feb. end I received my first set of GCMS notes and as per last notes by Case Processing Agent - ----------------------- Ml3

SUMMARY NOTES: CLIENT DID NOT MEET MEC AS THEY DID NOT PROVIDE ENOUGH EVIDENCE OF ATLEAST 1 YEAR WORK EXPERIENCE IN THE REQUIRED PRIMARY NOC. PRIMARY NOC ON APPLICATION IS 2281 - COMPUTER NETWORK TECHNICIANS AND ALL OF PA'S WORK EXPERIENCE IS IN NOC 2282- USER SUPPORT TECHNICIANS.

A11.2: NOT MET


It was just a waiting game after this until end of March, 2019 when my file moved to local VO in a mass file movement that happened.
I ordered notes End of March’19 – Still have not received them.
Re-ordered notes mid-May’19 – still have not received them.

Lessons Learnt:

Never use a lawyer but If you do never ever rely on them solely.

Check your application at least 10 times and always get a second set of eyes to proof read everything.

Very important – Start calling up IRCC around 3rd month mark. Order GCMS notes by end of 3rd month. PLEASE DO NOT , I repeat, DO NOT LISTEN TO ANYONE that tells you not to order notes as it has negative impact on your application. It is all bull****. Just imagine IRCC rejects your file for ordering notes, you take IRCC to court- How stupid would IRCC look in court…Just think logically and don’t listen to idiotic advice.

When I got Eligibility not met everyone started discouraging me, saying it is sure shot refusal. I didn’t give up because I knew even though I did commit silly mistakes, I had sent through CSEs requesting rectifications. So any agent/lawyer/person tells you not to raise CSE until IRCC asks for it, kick him/her out of the door before it is too late. Send CSEs regularly….