Working Under a False SIN Question

[wexalien]

Hi Guys
I have a question to which I require an answer, I do not reside in Canada but a good a friend of mine does. Calgary specifically. He initially moved as he was guaranteed sponsorship by a large construction company, however at the last minute the sponsorship fell through, he was in Canada at the time setting up his new life, so a friend of his stepped in and obtained a SIN from someone who had left the country, someone else's SIN. So my friend has been working under this SIN until recently, however, now both of these people have fallen into dispute over a family matter, they share relatives and a messy incident occurred in the past few weeks, , and the provider of the SIN is threatening to contact immigration to report my friend as an illegal worker and will try to have him deported. I would like to know, if this is the case, what are the legal repercussions for the provider of the SIN, my friend is perfectly aware that he will be deported, but will the provider of the SIN? who incidentally, has attempted in the past to secure employment for my friend in his construction company. The provider of the SIN currently has PR in Canada.

I would appreciate greatly any advice you can offer

Thanks And Regards

 

[scylla]

Hi Guys
I have a question to which I require an answer, I do not reside in Canada but a good a friend of mine does. Calgary specifically. He initially moved as he was guaranteed sponsorship by a large construction company, however at the last minute the sponsorship fell through, he was in Canada at the time setting up his new life, so a friend of his stepped in and obtained a SIN from someone who had left the country, someone else's SIN. So my friend has been working under this SIN until recently, however, now both of these people have fallen into dispute over a family matter, they share relatives and a messy incident occurred in the past few weeks, , and the provider of the SIN is threatening to contact immigration to report my friend as an illegal worker and will try to have him deported. I would like to know, if this is the case, what are the legal repercussions for the provider of the SIN, my friend is perfectly aware that he will be deported, but will the provider of the SIN? who incidentally, has attempted in the past to secure employment for my friend in his construction company. The provider of the SIN currently has PR in Canada.

I would appreciate greatly any advice you can offer

Thanks And Regards

The SIN provider won't lose his PR status if that's what you're asking.

 

[wexalien]

The SIN provider won't lose his PR status if that's what you're asking.

Thanks for the reply, if the SIN provider was also paying my friend to work for him, where does he stand ?

 

[canuck_in_uk]

Thanks for the reply, if the SIN provider was also paying my friend to work for him, where does he stand ?

Sounds like you are trying to help your friend blackmail this other person so he can get away with his crimes....

 

[scylla]

Sounds like you are trying to help your friend blackmail this other person so he can get away with his crimes....

Yeah - my thoughts exactly.

 

[wexalien]

I am merely seeking facts, not the product of your imagination, is this a forum where one can ask a perfectly legitimate question and expects facts or is a forum where someone asks a difficult question to be accused to an unlawful and immoral intention? I have no interest in blackmailing anyone, I am merely seeking facts.

 

[Eillon]

Sounds like a legit question to me. However I dont know the answer.

 

[wexalien]

Yeah - my thoughts exactly.

I am merely seeking facts, not the product of your imagination, is this a forum where one can ask a perfectly legitimate question and expects facts or is a forum where someone asks a difficult question to be accused to an unlawful and immoral intention? I have no interest in blackmailing anyone, I am merely seeking facts.

 

[wexalien]

Sounds like a legit question to me. However I dont know the answer.

Thanks for responding in any case

 

[scylla]

I am merely seeking facts, not the product of your imagination, is this a forum where one can ask a perfectly legitimate question and expects facts or is a forum where someone asks a difficult question to be accused to an unlawful and immoral intention? I have no interest in blackmailing anyone, I am merely seeking facts.

OK.

The provider is still not going to lose his / her PR status. There may be some CRA/tax complications - but no issues from an immigration perspective.

The person who used the SIN illegally, on the other hand, should expect immigration issues. Recommend he / she willingly leave Canada on their own before IRCC catches up with them.

EDIT: Person who used the SIN illegally should also not apply to return to Canada for at least six months after leaving.

 

[wexalien]

OK.

The provider is still not going to lose his / her PR status. There may be some CRA/tax complications - but no issues from an immigration perspective.

The person who used the SIN illegally, on the other hand, should expect immigration issues. Recommend he / she willingly leave Canada on their own before IRCC catches up with them.

EDIT: Person who used the SIN illegally should also not apply to return to Canada for at least six months after leaving.

Thank you for the reply
The person using the SIN fully intends to leave Canada and not return, strange that there are no legal repercussions for such a crime as providing an illegal SIN and also employing someone knowing they are not legally allowed to work in the country.


Thanks again for the reply

 

[scylla]

Thank you for the reply
The person using the SIN fully intends to leave Canada and not return, strange that there are no legal repercussions for such a crime as providing an illegal SIN and also employing someone knowing they are not legally allowed to work in the country.


Thanks again for the reply

There are repercussions - but again, they are not immigration repercussions.

 

[wexalien]

There are repercussions - but again, they are not immigration repercussions.

I don't particularly want any repercussions for either party, the guy working under the SIN will have left but what will become of the provider? Does it mean he will have to leave too? Is it something that he could be incarcerated for?

Thanks Again

 

[scylla]

I don't particularly want any repercussions for either party, the guy working under the SIN will have left but what will become of the provider? Does it mean he will have to leave too? Is it something that he could be incarcerated for?

Thanks Again

No - provider won't have to leave. Again, no immigration repercussions. Nope - this won't result in incarceration. Most you can probably expect is fines.

 

[zardoz]

Thank you for the reply
The person using the SIN fully intends to leave Canada and not return, strange that there are no legal repercussions for such a crime as providing an illegal SIN and also employing someone knowing they are not legally allowed to work in the country.


Thanks again for the reply

It's always possible that this could come under "conspiracy". http://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/C-46/section-465.html