Wife sponsorship

[osun]

My wife live in nigeria and have been refused permanent resident visa 2 in 2011 i appealed and was refused again.I submitted a new application june to missisauga and the file was transferred to Accra Ghana for processing.I previously claimed refugee which i went my hearing in 2008 and was approved.B4 i went for the hearing my application under professional skilled worker was in process.within few months i became a permanent resident under skill worked then the immigration wrote me a letter to withdraw the permanent resident under protected person which i did and my file under refugee was abandoned.When i did my marriage in 2011,i went to nigeria straight from canada.when my wife was called for interview in ghana,the officer refused the PR visa because,the officer stated your husband was not suppose to go to nigeria because he claimed refugee against that country.My wife told her the .My husband was not landed as a refugeee.He got his PR under skilled worker.
I re applied in june ,2013 and i received a letter from accra office in ghana to provide my personal information and the immigration and refugee decision and reasons and additional document that prove the genuiness of our relationship within 30days if not decision will be made base on what they have.
my questions are
1, why would the officer need my personal information pif from me since the immigration already have a copy when i claim asylum.
2 Does it means the officer want to refuse the application for the 3rd times.
3 will that affect my PR since i was not landed as a refugee.i was landed as a skilled worker.
4 will my wife be called for another interview if i send those document requested by the officer
5 What if i refused to send my Personal info pif becos is not part of the sponsorship requirement.
PLS any one kindly reply.Am permanet resident holder in canada.

 

[scylla]

1. I assume they are requesting this information to help them to confirm that your relationship with your wife is genuine. It doesn't matter if you provided this information before. CIC won't take this information from your old application - they will always ask you to provide it again.
2. It means the officer has concerns if your relationship with your wife is genuine. If you do not provide enough evidence to prove your relationship is real, then yes, the file could be refused again.
3. No - I don't see how this will have any impact on your PR status.
4. I don't know.
5. I think that if you refuse to provide any of the information that has been requested this will significantly increase the chances that your wife's application will be refused. You should send CIC the information they have asked for.

 

[zardoz]

I suppose it is possible that as the OP did in fact go back to the country that he WAS claiming refugee status from, they may be considering that it WAS originally a fraudulent claim. This might have an impact on any new application processing. They may be wondering what has changed that he now feels safe to return...

 

[osun]

Thanks you all for your responses.

osun

 

[osun]

Hi guys ,i live in canada as PR status,my wife application is in accra ghana,cic has requested for some documents which am sending next week.can i used this opportunity to request cic to invite me and my wife to interview together in ACCRA GHANA.Because my wife has already been refused 1x in that office and i loose my ADR in toronto. They wanted me to go for the full hearing,but i withdrew the appeal because full hearing take 4ever to get a date.What should i do about asking the immigration in ghana to invite me for an interview with my wife so that i can fly from canada to Ghana accra.Any better way to do that.My wife is so scared in that office becos of the intimidation.

 

[frege]

Hi Osun,

It would probably be a good idea to get help from a lawyer. I think it will be difficult to be successful without a lawyer when your application has already been refused once.

The good thing is that since you didn't go through a full appeal hearing, the doctrine of "res judicata" doesn't apply. This means that an appeals panel will examine all the evidence before it, and it doesn't need to accept the decision that was made before.

If you're in Ontario, here are some resources to help find a lawyer for free or at low cost, depending on your income:

http://yourlegalrights.on.ca/find-services

http://www1.lsuc.on.ca/specialist/jsp/namelist1.jsp?code=CII&region=

http://www.lsuc.on.ca/faq.aspx?id=2147486372

http://www.justicenet.ca/Justicenet_Brochure_EN.pdf

 

[osun]

hi i need help.is it true that when u are sponsoring your wife outside canada and you have previously claimed regugee status and the officer will always ask for the sponsor pif - personal information.This is what i received from the officer at accra office.can some explain what might be the outcome of this application
Based on the evidence that you provided I am not satisfied that your marriage is genuine and/or that the primary reason for the marriage is other than for purpose of you gaining admission to Canada. As a result, for the purpose of the regulations, you may not be considered to be a member of the family class.
In order to come to a final determination in your case I will provide you 30 days from the date of this letter to provide additional information to support the genuineness of your marriage.

In addition to evidence of your relationship with your sponsor please also provide;

Your sponsors Personal Information form
Immigration and Refugee Board Reasons and Decisions
You have 30 days from the date of this letter to submit additional information so that we may continue processing your application. Please note this will be the ONLY opportunity we will provide for you to submit additional evidence. Your application will be assessed in 30 days and the final decision will be based on the evidence on file at that time.

 

[zardoz]

They can ask for anything that they want if it assists them in making a decision.

I don't understand why the request for a PIF is such a problem for you. You must have provided it during a refugee claim but the visa office will not necessarily be able to access the form.
At this point , if you refuse to supply required documentation, you can pretty much say goodbye to any chance of getting your wife sponsored. They are already proposing a refusal and it's now up to you to try and convince them to change their minds. Stubbornness will not help your case.

 

[osun]

Thanks,

I am worried about my PIF because they have refused my wife 3 times because i went back to the country i claimed refugee against.Now they have the full details,will that not give a higher chance of refusal.The last appeal i did,the officer told me "your marriage look Genuine,but y did you go back home in that same country,y didnt you get married in another country.I told the officer that as long as i withdrew the refugee,i do not consider my self as a refugee.He stated we do not want people like u in canada."I told him my wife will irrespective of the delay and the speculation towards my relationship.He walked away from the ADR ROOM.tHEY ARE REALLY refusing me base on my travel back to my country.I have evidence of communication and money transfer with my wife since 2008 till date .i have sent her mothan 20 thousand dollars since i came to canada,because i trained her in school.How do i cover up this refugee issue?What other ways will my wife come,we having problem having a child due to medical reason.am tired crying every day.PLS guys kindly respon.

 

[frege]

Thanks,

I am worried about my PIF because they have refused my wife 3 times because i went back to the country i claimed refugee against.Now they have the full details,will that not give a higher chance of refusal.The last appeal i did,the officer told me "your marriage look Genuine,but y did you go back home in that same country,y didnt you get married in another country.I told the officer that as long as i withdrew the refugee,i do not consider my self as a refugee.He stated we do not want people like u in canada."I told him my wife will irrespective of the delay and the speculation towards my relationship.He walked away from the ADR ROOM.tHEY ARE REALLY refusing me base on my travel back to my country.I have evidence of communication and money transfer with my wife since 2008 till date .i have sent her mothan 20 thousand dollars since i came to canada,because i trained her in school.How do i cover up this refugee issue?What other ways will my wife come,we having problem having a child due to medical reason.am tired crying every day.PLS guys kindly respon.

It looks like CIC is doing anything it can to prevent you from sponsoring your wife. They will probably continue even if they know your relationship is genuine.

At this point, you need a lawyer because you're unlikely to be successful without appealing.

 

[keesio]

Thanks,

I am worried about my PIF because they have refused my wife 3 times because i went back to the country i claimed refugee against.Now they have the full details,will that not give a higher chance of refusal.The last appeal i did,the officer told me "your marriage look Genuine,but y did you go back home in that same country,y didnt you get married in another country.I told the officer that as long as i withdrew the refugee,i do not consider my self as a refugee.He stated we do not want people like u in canada."I told him my wife will irrespective of the delay and the speculation towards my relationship.He walked away from the ADR ROOM.tHEY ARE REALLY refusing me base on my travel back to my country.I have evidence of communication and money transfer with my wife since 2008 till date .i have sent her mothan 20 thousand dollars since i came to canada,because i trained her in school.How do i cover up this refugee issue?What other ways will my wife come,we having problem having a child due to medical reason.am tired crying every day.PLS guys kindly respon.

Sounds like they have no issues with your wife or your marriage and the big issue is that you went back to Nigeria after claiming refugee status:

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/department/media/backgrounders/2012/2012-02-16k.asp

Even though you withdrew your claim after your got PR via skilled worker program, they are still holding that history against you. To CIC, it seems you applied for refugee status as a "backup" plan and they frown on such practices and must have "red flagged" you when you returned back to Nigeria.

You'll have to convince them that you did not mean to mislead CIC.

I'm curious... what was your reason for fleeing Nigeria and to claim refugee status in the first place? And what changed so that you felt safe traveling back? If nothing really changed, then I do see CIC's point of view.

Anyway, like the others are suggesting, you need a lawyer to help you here. It will be a difficult road to bring your wife here and you will not be able to convince CIC by yourself.

 

[frege]

He stated we do not want people like u in canada."

Did you have a lawyer in the room with you as a witness?

That's a clear indication of bias.

 

[Alurra71]

Looking at the OP's starting post, he stated he was going for refugee, then changed to skilled worker ... then went back to Nigeria, married his wife so on and so forth, but if you look at posts from just a few days ago, he stated he has had this relationship with his wife since 2008? Perhaps they feel as if he was being dubious from the beginning by doing a Skilled Worker application AFTER he had already started and been approved for a refugee claimant.

I would wonder if he was involved with his wife since 2008 wouldn't CIC potentially think she was an unclaimed common law partner that he didn't claim in the beginning?

I dunno, maybe he is just unable to clarify the exacts and it sounds 'odder' than it really is.

 

[osun]

The reason why i fled from Nigeria was a political issues in 2007 which resulted alot of killings .Will that in any way affect my status or prevent me from being citizenship? i have just applied for citizenship and i already bought a ticket to go to nigeria december to visit my wife.I hope they will let me in when i return.I have met several lawyers but no solution,the last lawyer i paid him 6k .even my last ADR officer was my lawyers friend,he told me bodly that "even if am jesus christ i will not approve this case go home bring more proof."he also stated,i know your laywer,and i will continue to be his friend.He ended his decision and left the room.Am planning to apply for USA visa so that i can relocate finally. I miss my wife.I have not seen her for 2yrs +

 

[osun]

Yes i have a lawyer,but he was looking like a fool,could not argue any word with the imm officer.