wet behind the ears newbie here...

[mittens]

hello to one and all
ok here's a brief synopsis...
met a canadian on-line last year and we are getting married next month in ontario
same sex relationship
i have 3 children from previous marriage
all live with me
and 2 have minimal or no contact with father
i am in the uk
children aged 21, 17 and nearly 13
*i know 3 teenagers sigh*

eldest is in uni and isn't sure if she wants to live in canada
other 2 i am putting on the forms

2 quick questions for you...

1st off, should i put eldest on application just in case she decided she wants to come to canada eventually?

2nd is me and my 2 youngest are flying over to ontario for the wedding
what do i say at immigration?

thanks
*smile*

 

[BeShoo]

I don't think that your 21-year-old falls under the definition of a "dependent child" and you may not be able to sponsor her anyway. See http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/immigrate/sponsor/relatives-apply-who.asp#who_can. If she was eligible, it would be important to include her in the first place, because you cannot add family members later if they were not declared at the beginning. At least that is my understanding. I'm sure that someone will correct me.

 

[srcc]

From http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/applications/guides/3900E2.asp

"Dependent children

Your child or a child of the person you are sponsoring will be considered a dependent child if that child

A. is under the age of 22 and not married or in a common-law relationship; or

B. married or entered into a common-law relationship before the age 22 and, since becoming a spouse or a common-law partner, has

* been continuously enrolled and in attendance as a full-time student in a post secondary institution accredited by the relevant government authority and
* depended substantially on the financial support of a parent; or

is 22 years of age or older and, since before the age of 22, has

* been continuously enrolled and in attendance as a full-time student in a post secondary institution accredited by the relevant government authority and
* depended substantially on the financial support of a parent; or

C. is 22 years of age or older, has depended substantially on the financial support of a parent since before the age of 22 and is unable to provide for him/herself due to a medical condition.

Dependent children must meet the above requirements both on the day the Case Processing Centre in Mississauga (CPC-M), Ontario, receives a complete application for a permanent resident visa and, without taking into account whether they have attained 22 years of age, on the day a visa is issued to them."

If I where you , I will add all 3 to the application, even if the eldest does not want to go.

"If the principal applicant and, if applicable, his or her spouse or common-law partner, whether accompanying the principal applicant to Canada or not, have dependent children who will not be accompanying them to Canada, give the details of these dependent children."

 

[mittens]

thanks for the advice, yes i think i should add her to the original application, then if she changes her mind at any point it will be easier...


now the question regarding immigration when we land next month?
i was thinking of just answering their questions
ie. to visit my friend/girlfriend
but if they ask about marriage i am truthful and feel i should tell them
should i have some proof that i fully intend to return to the uk at the end of the visit?
if so what do you recommend?
cheers

 

[rjessome]

thanks for the advice, yes i think i should add her to the original application, then if she changes her mind at any point it will be easier...


now the question regarding immigration when we land next month?
i was thinking of just answering their questions
ie. to visit my friend/girlfriend
but if they ask about marriage i am truthful and feel i should tell them
should i have some proof that i fully intend to return to the uk at the end of the visit?
if so what do you recommend?
cheers

Be honest or it might come back to bite you later. Proof is return tickets for you and your children, vacation letter from your current employer, bank statements and/or asset statements such as a property deed if you own a home in the UK.

About your oldest, I agree that you should add her but make sure you list her as ACCOMPANYING and that she actually lands in Canada when you get your permanent residence. In order to maintain her permanent residency in Canada, she needs to live her for 2 out of every 5 years, so she doesn't have to stay here for any length of time after landing. But if you list her as unaccompanying, you cannot sponsor her anymore after she turns 22, whether she is included on the forms or not. This way she has at least a few more years to decide whether or not she wants to live in Canada.

 

[mittens]

cheers rjessome

don't worry i'm very honest, i shall ask my employer for a letter asap
i can take bank statements too
but the deeds to the house are with solicitors...

as for daughter, sorted i'll add her and then she can faff and change her mind according to her mood on any given day heh

 

[canadianwoman]

now the question regarding immigration when we land next month?
i was thinking of just answering their questions
ie. to visit my friend/girlfriend
but if they ask about marriage i am truthful and feel i should tell them
should i have some proof that i fully intend to return to the uk at the end of the visit?

They might not ask much, in which saying you are going to visit your girlfriend is OK. If they ask more, admit the marriage. You definitely need proof you will be going back to the UK: as rjessome says; plus try to get proof the kids are going back too - maybe a letter from their school stating they are enrolled for the coming term and are expected back, receipts showing you have paid for classes for them that start after your return date, etc.

Definitely add the oldest daughter, and have her come with you when you land as well. She can then go right back to the UK, but at least her options to move to Canada if she later decides she wants to will remain open.

 

[BeShoo]

Whatever you do, do not lie! That would be grounds for you to be banned from Canada to one year, or even two years in more serious cases. You can't risk that at all. Don't ever lie or try to hide things from them. So long as you have sufficient evendence that you will return, there should be no problem.

 

[mittens]

morning!
no no i have no intention of being dishonest...

we don't pay for school in the uk so won't have proof of paying for classes
i shall gather stuff that proves i will return...
letter from my employer
bank statements to show all my direct debits from my home here
return tickets

re. my 21 yr old daughter, reading through the info kindly provided by srcc
my eldest has not been continuously in full time education, due to a very serious illness, does part B only apply if she is also married? (which she isn't)
she was ill and undergoing treatment, therefore she is 2 yrs behind, and is only in her 1st yr at university

sorry for all the questions but i want to have clarity before i fill in the forms
not simples is it ha!

 

[rjessome]

re. my 21 yr old daughter, reading through the info kindly provided by srcc
my eldest has not been continuously in full time education, due to a very serious illness, does part B only apply if she is also married? (which she isn't)
she was ill and undergoing treatment, therefore she is 2 yrs behind, and is only in her 1st yr at university

Part B only applies if she is 22 or older.

 

[canadianwoman]

we don't pay for school in the uk so won't have proof of paying for classes

You could use receipts from private lessons, such as piano classes or swimming lessons. If you've paid for them, and they don't start until after your return date, it is additional evidence you will leave Canada.

re. my 21 yr old daughter, reading through the info kindly provided by srcc
my eldest has not been continuously in full time education, due to a very serious illness, does part B only apply if she is also married? (which she isn't)
she was ill and undergoing treatment, therefore she is 2 yrs behind, and is only in her 1st yr at university

She's only 21, so is still a dependent child.

 

[mittens]

thanks rj and canadian woman...

such a lot to think about
trying to focus on our wedding plans
as it's getting very close now!!

but also know i need to start getting together all the proof of relationship etc
we've just discovered the joys of skype but i'm technically inept
and have no clue how to save them as proof
and neither does she...

have hundreds of phone bills though heh

 

[canadianwoman]

thanks rj and canadian woman...

such a lot to think about
trying to focus on our wedding plans
as it's getting very close now!!

but also know i need to start getting together all the proof of relationship etc
we've just discovered the joys of skype but i'm technically inept
and have no clue how to save them as proof
and neither does she...

have hundreds of phone bills though heh

There's a thread on how to print Skype records (and messaging as well). Maybe it will help you:
http://www.canadavisa.com/canada-immigration-discussion-board/printing-skype-record-t53964.0.html

 

[mittens]

thanks canadian woman, all of that flew way above my technophobe head, fortunately a friends husband understands such technology heh

ok, rather that start a new thread i have a new question...

as you know i am shortly flying to canada to get married
was wondering if i could get mine and the childrens medicals done whilst in canada?
thinking behind this is...
1. cost
2. time constraints

there is a designated doctor right where i'm going...so

can i do this?
advice please...

 

[scylla]

You can certainly do the medicals in Canada (in fact, you can do them anywhere in the world as long as you use a DMP). As a general rule, they tend to cost less in Canada.