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Rockyrock

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I am an Afghan national , I got my b.tech in civil engineering from India, and master's in transport engineering from Japan. During the master's program, I joined a course-work called GIS (Geographic information system) , and I really loved it . GIS comes under Geomatics engineering and is related to civil engineering field . I am curios to relate my civil engineering knowledge to it. I have already applied for the Msc. in Geodesy and Geomatics Engineering, and waiting for the result. I saw on the web that second master's may affect the chances of getting a student visa . Do you have any idea regarding this?
 

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No. As long as you write a strong SOP explaining the reason for doing your second masters you will have no negative impact on your visa. My roommate got her visa approved on the first attempt, it was her second masters after 3 years work experience as well.
 

Rockyrock

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No. As long as you write a strong SOP explaining the reason for doing your second masters you will have no negative impact on your visa. My roommate got her visa approved on the first attempt, it was her second masters after 3 years work experience as well.
Thank you very much ! I have two years of work experience after my bachelor's. I dont have work experience after my Msc as I graduated 6 month ago.
 

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You have to write an SOP telling the VO why you decide to pursue another Ms instead of working to gain experience, it should be strong because the VO might just think its a planned scheme not to return to your home country
 

Rockyrock

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You have to write an SOP telling the VO why you decide to pursue another Ms instead of working to gain experience, it should be strong because the VO might just think its a planned scheme not to return to your home country
My ultimate goal would be to work in academia. Also, when I checked the requirements of PhD. in geomatics engineering , it requires some research experience in geomatics( perhaps master's in geomatics). Therefore, I believe MSc in geomatics is a stepping stone in order to get into PhD. I decided to go for second master's during the last semester of the master's program in Japan. However, my father , suddenly, passed away , and I stopped all applications and came to Turkey to join my family and support them during the difficult times. I have been living here for the past 5 months, and I started to search for the universities at the end of January this year.
 

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..these little info you just gave out is strength and should be in your SOP especially the part were you said "you want to be an academia and can only have a PhD to do that," build solidly more on that point
 

Rockyrock

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..these little info you just gave out is strength and should be in your SOP especially the part were you said "you want to be an academia and can only have a PhD to do that," build solidly more on that point
Thank you very much for your help.
I am from Afghanistan and presently living in Turkey. So, I will be applying online . My final goal after study would be to return back to Afghanistan and work as a researcher. Is it possible to prove ties to the country of residence by providing bank statements of a joint account ( my mom and I ) which has about 100,000 USD? We have an apartment here but it is registered with my dad's name. What is your input on this ?
 

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Is the bank account opened in Afghan or Turkey? do you(you, dad or mum) have properties in Afghan? or do you have business there too and do you have your siblings or close family in Afghan? because these can also strengthen home ties

Just the bank account won't be enough to show home ties but the funds in it is prefer convincing to see you through your studies with good application documents

I will advise you, mention in your SOP that you will be returning back to Afghan not Turkey after your studies and always mention how your prospect choosing course would affect you as an individual and your country(Afghan) as an entity
 

Rockyrock

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Is the bank account opened in Afghan or Turkey? do you(you, dad or mum) have properties in Afghan? or do you have business there too and do you have your siblings or close family in Afghan? because these can also strengthen home ties

Just the bank account won't be enough to show home ties but the funds in it is prefer convincing to see you through your studies with good application documents

I will advise you, mention in your SOP that you will be returning back to Afghan not Turkey after your studies and always mention how your prospect choosing course would affect you as an individual and your country(Afghan) as an entity
Hi again Johnsnow 007,
The bank account is opened in Turkey. My dad has got an apartment here in Turkey and one in Afghanistan . We do not have any business either in Afghanistan or in Turkey, and my mom and siblings are here in Turkey. As you rightly mentioned, I will write in my SOP that I would be returning to Afghanistan , and my goal is to teach at Kabul University , and contribute in bringing improvement in the research field related to my expertise. I would also mention that the higher education in Afghanistan lacks in quality compared with other neighboring countries , and high quality education in Canada would equip me with the knowledge and expertise in bringing improvement in the civil engineering field.
 

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In an actual sense, am just ASSUMING from the VO's perspectives.. Turkey's not your home country but Afghan and your ties linking you back home is not very strong

Even if you are going to lecture in Kabul university back in Afghan, there is no physical evidence(like a job offer letter which can also be pretty helpful in linking your ties to home) to convince the situation

You just have to build on your home ties because that's your biggest challenge right now, if possible it will be advisable to apply in the Visa office in Afghan instead of Turkey

..otherwise start building up points for your SOP explaining and showing relevant documents(properties not bank account only, family, jobs etc) of your stay that links you to Turkey and your respective contributions there, and how you would be returning to Afghan to input your acquired knowledge there.. and try to show documents to your father's house in Afghan and talk about it in your SOP

but it would be best if you can provide home ties to Afghan and as well applying in the visa office in Afghan as your chances would be more brighter than in Turkey

I will advise you not to rush, prospone any thoughts of applying now until you are been able to gather a more resourceful and convincing information regarding your situation
 
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canuck78

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Given that you have a good reason for pursuing another masters and you are taking higher level post-secondary education you may receive less resistance to the fact that you don't have strong ties to your home country. Canada would actually like to retain their PhD grads although I wouldn't mention this in your current application.
 

Rockyrock

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Given that you have a good reason for pursuing another masters and you are taking higher level post-secondary education you may receive less resistance to the fact that you don't have strong ties to your home country. Canada would actually like to retain their PhD grads although I wouldn't mention this in your current application.
Thank you very much for the information !
Shall I mention , specifically, the fact that having finished the master's program , I would be studying PhD. in Canada , too?
 

Rockyrock

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In an actual sense, am just ASSUMING from the VO's perspectives.. Turkey's not your home country but Afghan and your ties linking you back home is not very strong

Even if you are going to lecture in Kabul university back in Afghan, there is no physical evidence(like a job offer letter which can also be pretty helpful in linking your ties to home) to convince the situation

You just have to build on your home ties because that's your biggest challenge right now, if possible it will be advisable to apply in the Visa office in Afghan instead of Turkey

..otherwise start building up points for your SOP explaining and showing relevant documents(properties not bank account only, family, jobs etc) of your stay that links you to Turkey and your respective contributions there, and how you would be returning to Afghan to input your acquired knowledge there.. and try to show documents to your father's house in Afghan and talk about it in your SOP

but it would be best if you can provide home ties to Afghan and as well applying in the visa office in Afghan as your chances would be more brighter than in Turkey

I will advise you not to rush, prospone any thoughts of applying now until you are been able to gather a more resourceful and convincing information regarding your situation
Thank you very much for the invaluable input !
Actually, Canadian embassy in Afghanistan , does not deal with temporary visas and study permits , so, Afghan citizens have to travel to Pakistan to apply for the student permit at the Canadian embassy in Islamabad. It seems really unlikely for me to apply via Afghanistan , and travel to Pakistan for that matter. As far as offer letter is concerned, my friend runs a privately owned university, and I am sure he will be more than happy to offer me a job once I return to Afghanistan from Canada, therefore, I think I can receive a job offer from him. Documents of the properties in Turkey are in Turkish , and the one in Afghanistan is in Persian. Shall I translate it by myself and attach the translation or is there any other way ? Bundle of thanks :)
 

canuck78

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Thank you very much for the information !
Shall I mention , specifically, the fact that having finished the master's program , I would be studying PhD. in Canada , too?
Yes I would explain exactly as you did previously that you need the research cased masters as a prereq for PhD and for research experience. You are planning to pursue PhD after.
 

Rockyrock

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Yes I would explain exactly as you did previously that you need the research cased masters as a prereq for PhD and for research experience. You are planning to pursue PhD after.
Ok got it and many thanks !
They might also question about why I am not applying for a PhD in transport engineering or civil engineering , since my master's is in transport engineering. Do you think that it is a good reason : "I got interested in geomatics engineering after attending a course-work called GIS during my master's program in Japan. During the coursework, we used GIS , for instance, to find out the shortest path on a road network , finding the nearest metro station from our university by using spatial analysis, and mapping a location with the most elderly population. I , therefore, liked the application of GIS in transport engineering and decided to become specialist in it. The only way to become specialist in it is by conducting research , and applying for the second master's in geomatics engineering which is a stepping stone for PhD in geomatics engineering.My final goal would be to work in academia".