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VANCOUVER — Chinese interest in Vancouver-area real estate is so strong that it's fuelling a market for real estate tourism, with groups of wealthy travellers scheduling visits to the city for the sole purpose of house hunting.


China-based Internet sales company SouFun is organizing two tours — groups of about 20 each from Beijing and Shanghai — which will visit Vancouver and Toronto in August on the hunt for "million-dollar or multi-million-dollar" listings.


First reported in Vancouver's Ming Pao Daily News, and repeated on the news blog Chinese in Vancouver, a SouFun spokesman said potential buyers are particularly drawn to neighbourhoods with "famous" schools or ocean views.


Ming Pao reporter Eric Chan said SouFun drew a lot of participation for the tours from areas around Shanghai.


China's burgeoning wealthy class has been a dominant presence in Metro Vancouver's high-end property market for some time now, so for many people, news of specific buying tours is not a surprising extension.


"I'm surprised why people think it's news," said Angel Wang, an agent with Royal Pacific Realty in Vancouver.


Wang added that it has been more common for Chinese visitors to tag house hunting on to the end of a conference or another type of business trip rather than straight real estate tourism.


"I've worked with some business groups before," Wang said. "And maybe they have been with a business conference and will stay here for a few days extra to look around at houses."


They are attracted to Vancouver prices, Wang added, that, despite being the highest in Canada, appear to be bargains compared with Shanghai, Beijing or other international cities they might look at.


Canada, Wang said, also appears to be a more stable real estate market to Chinese buyers.


Even without specific tours, Tom Gradecak, owner of Westside Tom Gradecak Realty, said about 80 per cent of showings for his west-side Vancouver listings are to Chinese buyers, and the majority of sales are within that demographic.


"When (prices) are getting over $2.5 million to $3 million, then predominantly that's our market," Gradecak said. "Over ($4 million to $6 million), they're almost the entire market."


However, other agents are skeptical whether such tours wind up in buying sprees rather than window shopping.


"It's more of an introduction service 1/8to Canada 3/8," said Dan Scarrow, vice-president of strategy for Macdonald Realty in Vancouver.


Scarrow said he is aware of other such trips in the past, and when the Chinese visitors do not have their immigration status in Canada sorted out, they are more reluctant to buy homes.


The trips, he added, are more a chance to get a "lay of the land" for what Vancouver's neighbourhoods are like and what types of homes are available before securing landed immigrant status.


Vincent Chen, a representative for the Chinese immigration consulting firm Visas Consulting Group, said Canada is presently the most popular destination for mainland Chinese using his firm. They are attracted by its quality of education, quality of life, the safety and stability of Canadian society, and its "attractive investor immigrant program."


Chen said Visas, which is among the largest immigration firms in China, has "organized many property exhibitions for Canadian developers.


George Wong, principal of Magnum Projects, the marketing firm selling the River Green waterfront community near the Olympic oval in Richmond, B.C., said that some 60 per cent of the first 150 pre-sales his company has made in the project were to Asian buyers.


"B.C. has been a destination for a lot of international people to come and buy real estate," Wong said. "In that context, it's nothing new, it's just that the players have changed."
 

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When people in China's largest cities are living like this:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100628/ap_on_re_as/as_china_ant_tribes;_ylt=AjhbwVpdHVpMhK50d31wnCgBxg8F;_ylu=X3oDMTJnbjN2NjZjBGFzc2V0A2FwLzIwMTAwNjI4L2FzX2NoaW5hX2FudF90cmliZXMEcG9zAzUEc2VjA3luX21vc3RfcG9wdWxhcgRzbGsDY2hpbmFzeW91bmdj

It's not surprising that property prices in Vancouver are actually affordable for them.
 

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Yeah, thats what chinese did to the Australian housing market as well. They came here bought the investment properties for whatever the price was and this led to the increase in the housing price and local people are now finding it hard to buy a first home.

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Well, many young people in Beijing, Shanghai and nearly every large cities in China have same difficulties to purchase first homes due to the speculation and housing bubble over the years.

Not only Vancouver, Toronto and Australia, I heard Los Angelos had also been a popular destination of Chinese house-hunters. Recently due to Greece's financial crises, more chinese and their companies draw their attention in buying greek islands. As said in the website below, Greek islands are relatively affordable, costing as little as 2 million dollars.

http://www.privateislandsonline.com/greece.htm
 

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saki said:
Yeah, thats what chinese did to the Australian housing market as well. They came here bought the investment properties for whatever the price was and this led to the increase in the housing price and local people are now finding it hard to buy a first home.

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I don't think just some Chinese investors (several hundreds or a couple of thousands of them) buying properties in Australia can simply lead the price increase in housing market. They may certainly play as one of the factors, but definitely not a major one. These investors aim at the high-end, if not the most expensive, properties in large metropolitan areas. These properties are entirely different from those that interest most first-time home buyers. Because Chinese people are becoming richer and can suddenly do things, which they could never do 10 years ago, there are so many "news" about them. Buying expensive real estate in a foreign country is not a new thing. Rich Americans, Europeans, Arabs or even Australians have been doing that for decades. In these countries, there are big income gaps like what they have in China. I don't see any reason to fuss about rich Chinese buying properties.

In addition, don't some countries like Australia, New Zealand and Canada want to attract investment. If such investments are creating so many problems to the local market, why don't they stop the current practice.
 

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Average House Prices In Canada

One of the major attractions of a move to Canada is the cost of housing compared with other western countries.

As happens everywhere, prices are higher in Canada's big cities than they are in the surrounding towns.

Canada's highest house prices are found on the west coast in Vancouver / British Columbia, where the country's mildest weather is found.

Severe winter weather or remoteness from major markets usually results in low house prices - for example property prices are low in Manitoba and Prince Edward Island.

In 2007 prices in booming Alberta rose above prices in Ontario for the first time and, in the same vein, prices in Calgary rose above those in Toronto. Despite the more recent fall in oil prices, Alberta prices in 2009 remain higher than those in Ontario but Calgary prices have dropped below those in Toronto.

Canadian Cities Average House Prices January 2010

City Average House Price 12 Month Change
Vancouver, BC $638,000 + 18.9 %
Toronto, Ont $409,000 + 19.0 %
Calgary, Alb $382,000 + 5.5 %
Ottawa, Ont $324,000 + 11.3 %
Montreal, Que $284,000 + 11.1 %
Halifax, NS $242,000 - 0.4 %
Regina, Sask $214,000 - 6.2 %
Fredericton, NB $164,000 + 6.0 %

Canadian Provinces Average House Prices January 2010

Province Average House Price 12 Month Change
British Columbia $492,000 + 19.0 %
Alberta $343,000 + 6.4 %
Ontario $329,000 + 19.5 %
Quebec $236,000 + 9.8 %
Newfoundland / Labrador $236,000 + 22.5 %
Saskatchewan $228,000 + 2.0 %
Manitoba $213,000 + 15.9 %
Nova Scotia $194,000 + 8.3 %
Prince Edward Island $159,000 - 3.6 %
New Brunswick $156,000 + 7.3 %
Canadian Average $329,000 + 19.6 %
 

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Vancouver becoming destination for house-hunting tours from China

yeah I agree with you i also want to trying this summer holidays spent in Vancouver !
 

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Dear Guys,

I will be landing in Vancouver by the end of this year since my wife will be enrolled in a collage in Richmond can you suggest an economical place to rend a 1 bedroom apartment near a elementry school for my 3,6 years old kids in or around richmond..or any other advice.
 

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Some people look on Kijiji and Craigslist but you must be aware there are scams out there where people are advertising properties for rent that they do not have authority to rent. Do a search on forum as there have been threads discussing Vancouver rentals before. I don't know Richmond very well to help you regarding schools but you can google Richmond School Board and find out the location of elementary schools that would be close to the college. Good luck. PS Vancouver International Airport is in Richmond so be aware that homes on the flight paths will come with that "bonus" and may be reflected in the price. Not sure but it is worth asking the proximity when you are enquiring.