Urgent: Sudden Increase in PR Processing Times for Refugees and Protected Persons (Up to 99 Months!)
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Yeah, so, I was looking at alternatives that might work if the direct issue (long PR wait due to quotas) couldn't be addressed. E.g.
So I would ask - is this enough? If not, what is specifically missing from the above proposal?
How is this a bias against protected people? This is just common sense. Governments have a target PR number. You have to cut somewhere else to reallocate quota. I have suggested 2 places where quotas could technically be available but would have significant consequences with a variety of groups including voters when it comes to PGP. I would be in favour of pausing both PGP indefinitely and refugees resettled from abroad until backlogs in Canada are cleared or we have enough healthcare capacity but for a variety of reasons these don’t appear palatable for governments and voters. Canada will always favour economic immigration over every type of immigration. Immigration policy is mostly to benefit Canada.
U were literally saying people to stay on temporary residence saying to people who can’t go back to their country anymore and thanks to government new policies understanding situation and providing them.
More about responsible use of resources and government efficiency. Wanting protected people and refugees to follow the rules, not misrepresent their case and actually having their life at risk in their home country shouldn’t be controversial. There are people whose lives are at risk in their home country who we should want to give status in Canada but sadly there are many who are not at risk who have received status. There is a limited capacity so we should all want those who are truly at risk to be the ones who get status in Canada.
I said that the priority is safety and that speed of PR is not the priority when it comes to refugees/protected people.
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How many of you have realised that under the garb of "One-time initiatives", IRCC has quietly snuck in additional 115,000 PR as Protected Persons and possibly even
33,000 TR to PR.
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Because both these numbers don't appear on the immigration levels plan.
Language on at least one of the initiatives is very clear that these numbers are not part of the immigration levels plan.
So in that manner the PR targets are not reduced and neither are they same, but they have been increased.
So this is by IRCC consultant who had meeting today with IRCC.
@AskKubeir
How many of you have realised that under the garb of "One-time initiatives", IRCC has quietly snuck in additional 115,000 PR as Protected Persons and possibly even
33,000 TR to PR.
ASK KUBEIR
Because both these numbers don't appear on the immigration levels plan.
Language on at least one of the initiatives is very clear that these numbers are not part of the immigration levels plan.
So in that manner the PR targets are not reduced and neither are they same, but they have been increased.
So this is by IRCC consultant who had meeting today with IRCC.
Now they are prioritizing. Thanks to IRCC and I got my PR but I well wish for other protected people in this country.
I've been thinking on this. In truth a protected person/refugee is not just a temporary residence. These folks (assuming they're approved) get to stay in Canada for as long as they want and get a guaranteed path to PR.
While still less than actual PR, I suppose this should be considered a distinct category from temporary residence. After all, an approved refugee who is still waiting on PR lacks the key hallmarks of what defines a temporary status - they have no exit date where they have to promise to leave Canada, and rely on Canada for things that temporary residents normally ask of their home country's government (e.g. RTD or CoI in place of a national passport).
So it makes sense to me that the status itself - which is really not temporary but at least semi-permanent - should be modified and updated to reflect the reality of itself. Namely, things like eligibility for permanent SINs and so on. (And this is actually independent from the question of whether or not a way can be found to give protected people PR faster - these things should be given anyways.)
Same here. But also - sadly, they've always prioritized. It's just they felt they had more room before, but then immigration stopped because of COVID and then there was an overcorrection after the pandemic more-or-less ended. So I can imagine that in a few years things will cool down and can start to open up, but it has to be given time.
Hmm, do you have a link?
I look at this with skepticism. I was aware for the first TR to PR pathway for international students back in 2023, that IRCC had a bug on their website and accidentally accepted too many applications. So they had to go back to Parliament to ask to reallocate funds (meaning that spots elsewhere were deprioritized for these lucky folks). That happening in 2023 doesn't seem to fit with what this consultant is saying now - but perhaps there's more context on the consultant's website or on the platform where this message originated from.
One-time initiatives to recalibrate our immigration system
As part of a broader recalibration effort to return our immigration system to sustainable levels, the Government is implementing a one-time initiative over a two-year period to streamline the transition of approximately 115,000 Protected Persons in Canada who are already on a pathway to permanent residence and in alignment with their protected status under domestic and international law. These admissions are in addition to those identified in the above permanent resident admission targets. Protected persons have a recognized protected person status in Canada and can reside in the country as long as they maintain this status. They are not temporary residents like workers or students who come to Canada on time-bound temporary permits. Prioritizing their admissions as permanent residents over the next two years will ensure that those in genuine need of Canada’s protection have their permanent status recognized, accelerating their full integration into the Canadian society and their path to citizenship, and upholding Canada’s international humanitarian obligations.
https://www.canada.ca/en/immigratio...-levels-2026-2028.html?utm_source=chatgpt.com
As part of a broader recalibration effort to return our immigration system to sustainable levels, the Government is implementing a one-time initiative over a two-year period to streamline the transition of approximately 115,000 Protected Persons in Canada who are already on a pathway to permanent residence and in alignment with their protected status under domestic and international law. These admissions are in addition to those identified in the above permanent resident admission targets. Protected persons have a recognized protected person status in Canada and can reside in the country as long as they maintain this status. They are not temporary residents like workers or students who come to Canada on time-bound temporary permits. Prioritizing their admissions as permanent residents over the next two years will ensure that those in genuine need of Canada’s protection have their permanent status recognized, accelerating their full integration into the Canadian society and their path to citizenship, and upholding Canada’s international humanitarian obligations.
https://www.canada.ca/en/immigratio...-levels-2026-2028.html?utm_source=chatgpt.com
So let's assume that the opposite is true - that protection is assumed to not be needed as much as fast processing for PR. Well, in the past, inland applications took longer than outland to process. So, let's kick all these folks back to their home country where they fear for their lives and make them wait there while the PR is processed more quickly in the outland stream.
So now they'll get their PR in two years or less. Of course, that might still be too late - the applicant is now deceased because of .... but hey, at least they got the PR faster.
Obviously it's common sense that the protection is more important here. Now, I agree that these aren't mutually exclusive. Getting citizenship offers the most protection, so getting citizenship fast is in line with the goal of giving protection. However, it's common sense why, if one has to make a choice between the two, that protection is more important than fast processing after someone has safely landed in Canada.
So the consultant said,
emphasis mine.
> Immigration, Refugees and Citizenship Canada (IRCC) is pleased to release details on the 2026-2028 Immigration Levels Plan (Levels Plan). The Levels Plan includes temporary resident targets and ranges for new arrivals of international students and temporary foreign workers, along with permanent resident targets and ranges under the immigration categories of Economic, Family, Refugees and Protected Persons, and Humanitarian & Compassionate and Other.
The one-time adjustment is part of the plan, just not part of the temporary resident -> permanent resident targets. Instead they have separate targets. I think the consultant may just be confused by the semantics here (that being separate from the temp -> perm targets meant that it's not part of the Levels Plan overall).
But if you scroll down to the Permanent Residents chart about halfway down, you see the numbers are indeed given as part of the plan. The fact that it's one-time simply means it currently isn't planned to be included as part of the future post-2028 Levels Plan (which makes sense, as the hope would be that the insane current backlog would have been already fully addressed by then).
emphasis mine.
(Again emphasis mine.) But you did miss quoting part from the link,
> Immigration, Refugees and Citizenship Canada (IRCC) is pleased to release details on the 2026-2028 Immigration Levels Plan (Levels Plan). The Levels Plan includes temporary resident targets and ranges for new arrivals of international students and temporary foreign workers, along with permanent resident targets and ranges under the immigration categories of Economic, Family, Refugees and Protected Persons, and Humanitarian & Compassionate and Other.
The one-time adjustment is part of the plan, just not part of the temporary resident -> permanent resident targets. Instead they have separate targets. I think the consultant may just be confused by the semantics here (that being separate from the temp -> perm targets meant that it's not part of the Levels Plan overall).
But if you scroll down to the Permanent Residents chart about halfway down, you see the numbers are indeed given as part of the plan. The fact that it's one-time simply means it currently isn't planned to be included as part of the future post-2028 Levels Plan (which makes sense, as the hope would be that the insane current backlog would have been already fully addressed by then).
If protection is important to you than faster processing of your pr,that is your personal opinion, don't generalize it. If you are granted protected person don't even bother to apply for PR.
Okay... just to confirm, if you were given the choice to return to your home country and wait there, but in return your PR would be ready in eight months and then you could come back to Canada as a full PR - you'd take that deal?
So I was trying to demonstrate why no one in this position should want to sacrifice protection in the name of faster processing.
(I suppose at this point it's academic - I'm not sure when https://www.canada.ca/en/immigratio...pplementary-immigration-levels-2026-2028.html came out but it seems like the plan from the current administration is for approved refugees and protected persons to get their PR within the next two years from now. The gov't here wants to both give you protection and faster processing. Edit: Basically I greatly underestimated the ability of the current admin to find a way to navigate this and find a solution in the current political climate. Mea culpa - but I'm also happy that they were able to do this.)
Hmm. So my home country is one that is currently run by clowns and sinks deeper and deeper into human rights abuses every day. It gets worse and worse. In a world where the status of a country itself didn't matter, I probably could stake out such a claim successfully.
But here's why I won't. The PR granted to an approved refugee is actually inferior to that granted via other pathways. I came in via an economic stream, and got my PR that way. The benefit is that I don't have to worry about cessation. Right now, even though I may not like to do so, I can travel to my home country and renew my national passport without worry.
If I were to renounce my PR, make my refugee claim, and get approved, and obtain PR again as a refugee, then this changes. Even after receiving PR, I must use an RTD and be careful not to travel to my home country ever, except in the most extreme of circumstances - and even then only with the approval of a lawyer experienced in this area. Failure to follow this rule could cause me to lose my PR entirely and I may even be forced to leave Canada.
The other aspect here is - a refugee who has PR of Canada is in a slightly more secure position than an approved refugee who lacks it. So one can value protection over fast process but still apply for and hope for PR w/o being some sort of hypocrite.
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