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[Typo Fixed by CIC] CELPIP new requirement for class A: 4H now it's back to 4L

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Guys,

Someone in another thread have reported that the CEC site changed the English Test minimum requirements from 4L to 4H on March 31st, 2014. It means, people who took the test on January, February or March and haven't applied for PR or they haven't received the Acknowledge, might have some difficulties or get rejected if the proof of english presented at that time has 4L in one of the fourth categories (listening, reading, writing, speaking).

CEC: http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/immigrate/cec/language-testing.asp

It was updated two days ago, and it states that NOC 0,A = 4H instead of 4L.

This is unfair and was changed on the fly.

Does someone know if this may be just a typo?
 

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Re: CELPIP new requirement for class A: 4H

maxmoore said:
Guys,

Someone in another thread have reported that the CEC site changed the English Test minimum requirements from 4L to 4H on March 31st, 2014. It means, people who took the test on January, February or March and haven't applied for PR or they haven't received the Acknowledge, might have some difficulties or get rejected if they proof of english has 4L in one of the fourth categories.

CEC: http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/immigrate/cec/language-testing.asp

It was updated two days ago, and it states that NOC 0,A = 4H instead of 4L.

This is unfair and was changed on the fly.

Does someone know if this is just a typo?
Thanks for the update.
 

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Re: CELPIP new requirement for class A: 4H

What's clear is that NOC 0, A requires CLB 7 or higher. This has not changed.

But now the equivalency grid for old CELPIP scores seems to say that CLB 7 is equivalent to either 4H (in the case of NOC 0, A) or 4L (for NOC B). But we know that CLB 7 is equivalent to 4L (http://www.celpiptest.ca/about-celpip-g/test-format-and-scoring/). They've also removed CLB 8 from the table entirely.

So yes, it looks more like a typo or copy-paste error than anything else.
 

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Re: CELPIP new requirement for class A: 4H

maxmoore said:
Guys,

Someone in another thread have reported that the CEC site changed the English Test minimum requirements from 4L to 4H on March 31st, 2014. It means, people who took the test on January, February or March and haven't applied for PR or they haven't received the Acknowledge, might have some difficulties or get rejected if the proof of english presented at that time has 4L in one of the fourth categories (listening, reading, writing, speaking).

CEC: http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/immigrate/cec/language-testing.asp

It was updated two days ago, and it states that NOC 0,A = 4H instead of 4L.

This is unfair and was changed on the fly.

Does someone know if this may be just a typo?
From quick look at the table, 4H should be for CLB 8 (not 7)... And 4L should be for 0,A as well (as it stands for CLB 7)
 

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Re: CELPIP new requirement for class A: 4H

Are there any confirmation from CIC on this. I am worried about this.
Bcoz I gave the Test on January 2014 and my application reached CIC on March 3rd. I got my AOR also.

Not sure how this will impact.
 

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Re: CELPIP new requirement for class A: 4H

I tried to call CIC, but the agents are online until 4pm, so nobody picked the phone. I hope it's a typo. It doesn't make sense. Others categories such as "start-up" or "federal skilled worker" still have 4L as requirement (CLB 7).

I took the test on March 28th. At that point, the eligibility criteria was 4L. Even though I hope to get a better result, it's not fair to change the requirements on the fly when people already applied or have sent the application.

I believe if someone received the AOR, it's all good.
 

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I left them feedback to fix the typo (or if the requirement has indeed been raised to 4H, to make that more clear). So hopefully the confusion will be cleared up soon.
 

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LPS said:
I left them feedback to fix the typo (or if the requirement has indeed been raised to 4H, to make that more clear). So hopefully the confusion will be cleared up soon.
Don't think it's a type. I knew they were upgrading the CELPIP test and the results to
make the bring the marking system to the CLB
 

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Re: CELPIP new requirement for class A: 4H

Thanks Toby.. But, it should not affect the application submitted before April 1st with CELPIP score defined before April 1st
 

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Asish said:
Thanks Toby.. But, it should not affect the application submitted before April 1st with CELPIP score defined before April 1st
No, applications submitted before the changes are not affected.
 

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iam_toby said:
Don't think it's a type. I knew they were upgrading the CELPIP test and the results to
make the bring the marking system to the CLB
I still think it's a typo, again because the grid is ambiguous about CLB 7.

The equivalency of a CLB level to a test score (CELPIP or otherwise) does not depend on your occupation.
 

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Re: CELPIP new requirement for class A: 4H

iam_toby said:
Don't think it's a type. I knew they were upgrading the CELPIP test and the results to
make the bring the marking system to the CLB
Yes, it makes sense because CELPIP has changed the test on April 1st. BUT, the new test has a different scale. However, I took the test on March 28th, and the eligibility criteria under the old format was clearly 4L at that point. They can't just changed it to CLB 7 = 4H because they are violating the standard in which CELPIP was accepted as a valid proof of English under CEC (the CELPIP score table states that CLB 7 is 4L). There is something wrong, definitively.

Either they have to say that the new eligibility criteria is CLB 8 (which is unfair because IETLS is CLB7) or fix the typo, which from my point of view is: NOC B - CLB 7 - 4L has to be changed to NOC 0,A - CLB 7 - 4L.
 

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Re: CELPIP new requirement for class A: 4H

iam_toby said:
Don't think it's a type. I knew they were upgrading the CELPIP test and the results to
make the bring the marking system to the CLB
There are TWO lines with CLB level of 7 and different language marks (4H and 4L obviously) for pre-April 1st 2014, and 5L is CLB 9, so CLB 8 is clearly missing.
 

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Maxim1251 said:
There are TWO lines with CLB level of 7 and different language marks (4H and 4L obviously) for pre-April 1st 2014, and 5L is CLB 9, so CLB 8 is clearly missing.
Ya, I can see that. LPS reported it and in the meantime, all we can do is wait.
 

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Re: CELPIP new requirement for class A: 4H

Hello All,

CIC website has been updated for language requirement.
Yes.

Before April 1st, for NOC A, the CLB level is 7 and CELPIP is 4L