Trolling the Express Entry System
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bloomy said:
Entirely possible. But the stumbling blocks are WES reference numbers and IELTS TRF. Duplicating them accurately enough will require some effort but the input fields for those are probably free text and so one could enter any random combination and it would be accepted.
However, anyone trying to do this has just the temporary upside of landing an ITA (which they cannot do anything with) and the potentially troublesome downside of being called out for misrepresentation and banned. Not sure who will want to troll knowing that downside.
Possible!bloomy said:
But, what would be the objective? So much of effort for what?
The chances of real applicants will go slim.
doobie.doobie said:
Same reason that why people are spamming the web pages or attacking the governmental body’s cyber systems. Sometimes just for fun or another reason.
And why do you think too much effort is needed to do this. It is very easy to create an Express Entry account and put a fake IELTS and WES credential number. Who do you think are checking these numbers from the immigration office at the first stage.
When you create an account immediately they are issuing your point.
May be I am totally wrong.
And also I believe that there will be many rejected ITA due to the misinformation statement
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I'm sure that many EE profiles are fake. My friend issued a profile to check if he get a PT, by the way he got it 20th June. After that he withdrew his profile.
If the IELTS and WES numbers were checked immediately then it would be impossible.
So at the moment anybody can create a hundred EE profiles just for fun and lots of real applicants will not get their ITAs.
That's just the way it is.
If the IELTS and WES numbers were checked immediately then it would be impossible.
So at the moment anybody can create a hundred EE profiles just for fun and lots of real applicants will not get their ITAs.
That's just the way it is.
Russian said:
This is horrible and has the potential of keeping the cut-off score constantly high!
sam_172452 said:
This is the situation because system is allowing this
The quick solution is that lower the cut off point and send more ITA to the nominees.
Probably this will increase the backlogs, but only the real applicants will send the ITA required documents to the immigration offices. Fake ones will not provide the documents
Russian said:
I absolutely agree with you... I was warning on this potential issue way before first draw was made - simply because of consultants... in order to advice clients, consultants need to go through entire procedure and see all potential edge cases, so I am convinced that many of them have fake LMIA profiles just to get ITA and see post-ITA steps... and when you multiply 2-3 fake profiles with number of consultants, you get A LOT of fake profiles which are blocking people to get invited...
Somebody mentioned that solution would be to validate ECA and language results before accepting to pool - it is difficult to make SW solution that would do it automatically only because of politics - many stakeholders involved, but CIC may do it manually by asking designated institution for feedback based on reference numbers reported by potential migrants. There are ways, it is just a question of desire to make things proper.
If they can't automatically check if IELTS and ECA are real, the only solution I can imagine is to start charging to join the pool.
Perhaps, 100 CAD per application would be a reasonable value that would reduce frauds and fake profiles.
Perhaps, 100 CAD per application would be a reasonable value that would reduce frauds and fake profiles.
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Caspper said:
A fee at profile-creation stage is what Australia does, and i heard it worked quite well. Although that would not be fair for genuine applicants who happens to have a low score and didn't get ITA before it expires. (Unlike, e.g., OOPNP who asks a fee because they hand process every files it receives, EE system is a bunch of software code)
If CIC can access IELTS/CELPIP/TEF test result database, they can eliminate many fake profiles before it enters the pool. (I believe that's also what Australia is doing)
They don't do it because they don't think it's a problem and just say "fake profiles gets 5 year ban" will stop people trolling it. Well, they are clearly missing the point here.
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ohh this thread is gona give a lot of people nightmares... let the conspiracy theories start now..
its easy to make a new profile with fake info and just get ITA.. its jus they wont be able to submit an app.
but its going to keep the cutoff CRS score high.. i jus hope noone is seriously doing this horrible horrible thing.
its easy to make a new profile with fake info and just get ITA.. its jus they wont be able to submit an app.
but its going to keep the cutoff CRS score high.. i jus hope noone is seriously doing this horrible horrible thing.
sidhu7786 said:
Why not ?
Why hackers are attacking the web pages, is there any logical reason to do this ?
This is the same situation, maybe just for fun or another reason.
Maybe Canadian government will let this; maybe they would like to keep the cut off point as much as high
