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Time Spent Outside Canada while PR of Canada

nghafor123

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my wife has recently got her PR Card, and we went to Canada to do the landing and check how to settle and prepare for our move to Canada. However, due to my children schoolings still study in our current country of residence (outside Canada) and due to my work commitment , we had to travel back to our country of residence out of Canada so that we can finish up schools for our daughters etc,. then returned to Canada, So my question is : is the time spent outside Canada for my wife with a Canadian citizen considered and counted toward the days of citizenship? note that I and my daughters are already Canadian citizens. I am working abroad in a private firm.
Appreciate your advise and reply
 

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Dears

my wife has recently got her PR Card, and we went to Canada to do the landing and check how to settle and prepare for our move to Canada. However, due to my children schoolings still study in our current country of residence (outside Canada) and due to my work commitment , we had to travel back to our country of residence out of Canada so that we can finish up schools for our daughters etc,. then returned to Canada, So my question is : is the time spent outside Canada for my wife with a Canadian citizen considered and counted toward the days of citizenship? note that I and my daughters are already Canadian citizens. I am working abroad in a private firm.
Appreciate your advise and reply
No - it does not count towards citizenship.
 

scylla

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Jun 8, 2010
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Toronto
Category........
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Buffalo
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Pre-Assessed..
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why it does not since there are conditions on the Canada immigration website, it mentioned it can count since with a Canadian citizen accompany a family member?
You're confusing the residency requirement rules for maintaining PR status with the residency requirement rules for citizenship.

Take a look at the IRCC site again and you'll see that what you were reading only applies to the residency requirement for PR.

She needs to be physically living in Canada to count time towards citizenship. Time outside of Canada doesn't count.
 
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nghafor123

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You're confusing the residency requirement rules for maintaining PR status with the residency requirement rules for citizenship.

Take a look at the IRCC site again and you'll see that what you were reading only applies to the residency requirement for PR.

She needs to be physically living in Canada to count time towards citizenship. Time outside of Canada doesn't count.
 

YVR123

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why it does not since there are conditions on the Canada immigration website, it mentioned it can count since with a Canadian citizen accompany a family member?
No. It doesn't. In some cases, it may count towards her residency obligation. But not citizenship.

Even RO, it depends on how the case is viewed. (Both of you never settled back in Canada at any point and you are continuing your current job overseas).

As those who questioned about IRCC asking for proof of relocating back to Canada and think it's not necessary, here you go.
 

nghafor123

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Ok Thanks.
so how long can my wife as a new PR holder stay outside Canada, is it not more than 6 months?
No. It doesn't. In some cases, it may count towards her residency obligation. But not citizenship.

Even RO, it depends on how the case is viewed. (Both of you never settled back in Canada at any point and you are continuing your current job overseas).

As those who questioned about IRCC asking for proof of relocating back to Canada and think it's not necessary, here you go.
So those days spent outside Canada accompanying a Canadian Citizen can be counted days for calculating number of days as PR?
 

YVR123

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So those days spent outside Canada accompanying a Canadian Citizen can be counted days for calculating number of days as PR?
It's depends.

Time Lived in Canada
To keep your permanent resident status, you must have been in Canada for at least 730 days during the last five years. These 730 days don’t need to be continuous.
https://www.cic.gc.ca/english/helpcentre/answer.asp?qnum=727&top=10
https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/services/new-immigrants/pr-card/understand-pr-status.html
So it's 2 years within the first 5 years and after that, it's a rolling 5 years.

Can my time abroad count toward my permanent resident status?

https://www.cic.gc.ca/english/helpcentre/answer.asp?qnum=1466&top=10
 

nghafor123

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It's depends.

Time Lived in Canada
To keep your permanent resident status, you must have been in Canada for at least 730 days during the last five years. These 730 days don’t need to be continuous.
https://www.cic.gc.ca/english/helpcentre/answer.asp?qnum=727&top=10
So it's 2 years within the first 5 years and after that, it's a rolling 5 years.

Can my time abroad count toward my permanent resident status?

https://www.cic.gc.ca/english/helpcentre/answer.asp?qnum=1466&top=10
Thanks.
just wanted to check again, how long can my wife stay outside Canada without losing her PR status? does she have to to return to Canada every 6 months?
 

YVR123

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Thanks.
just wanted to check again, how long can my wife stay outside Canada without losing her PR status? does she have to to return to Canada every 6 months?
As I posted, there is no every 6 months rule. Some provinces may have other RO for keeping her provincal healthcare coverage. But if she is not looking into settling soon, she likely won't be covered at all anyway.
 

armoured

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Thanks.
just wanted to check again, how long can my wife stay outside Canada without losing her PR status? does she have to to return to Canada every 6 months?
In simple terms, from the date she landed to the five year anniversary of that day, she must be inside Canada 730 days (outside Canada less than 1095 days). It's easier to use the 'less than 1095 days' rule - if she returns after 1094 days abroad, she's still in compliance; two days later - not in compliance and can't be.

After that five year anniversary, same rule, but looking back five years, with the count being done on any day at all that eg crosses a border.
 
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canuck78

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Dears

my wife has recently got her PR Card, and we went to Canada to do the landing and check how to settle and prepare for our move to Canada. However, due to my children schoolings still study in our current country of residence (outside Canada) and due to my work commitment , we had to travel back to our country of residence out of Canada so that we can finish up schools for our daughters etc,. then returned to Canada, So my question is : is the time spent outside Canada for my wife with a Canadian citizen considered and counted toward the days of citizenship? note that I and my daughters are already Canadian citizens. I am working abroad in a private firm.
Appreciate your advise and reply
Usually you can count time accompanying your Canadian spouse abroad towards your RO for PR but since she never moved to Canada and established herself in Canada there is a good chance that you won’t be able to count the days. Too many people were doing exactly what you are doing and having the spouse land and return to their life abroad. Too many people not relocating back to Canada is why there is now a requirement to provide a lot of proof that your family will actually moving to Canada for a spouse to even get approved for sponsorship.

When your family returns to Canada she can start counting days towards her RO.