Studying for 1 year -> WP for 3 years afterwards - Possible?
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mlatimudan said:
The time spent working on a Working Holiday Visa (e.g. IEC, Young Professionals) DOES count towards CEC.
I don't understand your second question. If you are asking about CEC, all that matters is having one year of full time, skilled work experience in Canada - there is no education requirement. Most immigration programs either require you to have work experience in Canada or have a job offer in Canada. There are few programs that allow you to apply for PR based on education completed in Canada alone. If you plan to complete a PhD in Canada, then you can apply for PR through FSW once you have completed two years of studies in Canada (provided you meet the other program requirements). If you plan to complete a Masters or PhD through a university locate in Ontario, then you can apply for PR through the Ontario PNP program once you have graduated. Check the sticky thread (first thread) in this section of the forum for discussions on how foreign students can qualify for PR.
What are you talking exactly? 1) Studying to graduate with academic degree? Or 2) a temporary working visa?
For 1) to apply for PR you have to get PGWP , work 12 month ( NOC 0, A,B) then apply to either CEC, or FSW or PNP. Work during studies IS NOT counted for any of PR programs.
For 2) I do not konw but I think it depends on you job. If it is in NOC 0, A,B too.
I'm looking for the fastest way of getting PR status. Since I will be able to come to Canada on the WH visa and look for a job with LMO prospects that's one way. However, I'm a firm believer of NOT putting all of my eggs in the same basket, so I'm playing with the idea of enrolling in a University and following that route towards PR. Sorry if I expressed myself unclearly.
To continue - if I were to get, one way or another, the necessary 1 year work experience which counts towards CEC, and if my language skills were good enough, and if all other requirements were met, what then? Can I count on getting PR status without a hitch or not?
The provinces that interest me the most are Alberta, Saskatchewan and Qubec (yes I also speak French).
P.S. No PhD for me. Tried to do it in my native country, failed miserably. I'm simply not cut out for science.
To continue - if I were to get, one way or another, the necessary 1 year work experience which counts towards CEC, and if my language skills were good enough, and if all other requirements were met, what then? Can I count on getting PR status without a hitch or not?
The provinces that interest me the most are Alberta, Saskatchewan and Qubec (yes I also speak French).
P.S. No PhD for me. Tried to do it in my native country, failed miserably. I'm simply not cut out for science.
Not sure about "Working Holiday Program - International Experience Canada" in terms of CEC.
And I would think that to get a study permit (and then to get PGWP and then apply for PR under CEC/FSW/PNP) is easier than to get LMO for a job under NOC 0-A-B. (which the only one that will be considered towards CEC/FSW/PNP)
mlatimudan said:
No - you can't count on getting PR status based on the statement above.
The rules / criteria for PR change from time to time (sometimes from year to year). So while the scenario you have described above would work right now for CEC, there's no saying it will work in the future. CIC will be introducing the EOI (expression of interest) process in 2015. This could very well impact the eligibily criteria / selection process for CEC - and change what you need to do / have in order to qualify.
No such thing as a sure thing.
I understand that rules change and that I must adapt accordingly, BUT if today's rules are anything to go buy, am I correct in assuming that one or both of the two paths outlined below would lead to PR status?
Path A - WH + LMO
- get into WH (done)
- find an LMO for an appropriate job (NOC 0-A-B)
- do said job for 1 year
- apply for PR
Path B - Study + PGWP
- enroll in a 1 year full time study program
- obtain PGWP for a further year
- find an appropriate job (NOC 0-A-B)
- do said job for 1 year
- apply for PR
Path A - WH + LMO
- get into WH (done)
- find an LMO for an appropriate job (NOC 0-A-B)
- do said job for 1 year
- apply for PR
Path B - Study + PGWP
- enroll in a 1 year full time study program
- obtain PGWP for a further year
- find an appropriate job (NOC 0-A-B)
- do said job for 1 year
- apply for PR
This is a great risk. Just imagine you will be looking for a job for 2-4 months. Then you get only 8-10 month of experience. Not enough. You cannot extend your PGWP but only to ask for a new "usual" WP and for that new one you will need a LMO.
Again, there is no guarantee that you find a job (especially NOC 0-a-B) during the first or even the second month in Canada. And especially it is difficult for jobs in NOC 0-a-B to get LMO. Look how many of them in demand for FSW? There is no shortage of PR and citizens for such kind of jobs. So HRDC does not issue LMO for such jobs. You have to be a UNIQUE specialist for that in Canada.
Yes. However CIC has already announced the rules are changing in 2015 and the CEC program will be impacted.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/skilled-immigrants-to-be-matched-with-vacant-jobs-in-2015-1.2514673
So unless you can get 1 year of work experience and apply for CEC in 2014 - you're very likely going to be hit by the new rules and new criteria.
Comments on your options:
Path A
- no LMO is require for certain working holiday visas
Path B
- it will be almost impossible to get a full year of work experience on a 1 year PGWP
- get a 1.5 year PGWP at a minimum (better to study 2 years and get 3 year PGWP)
http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/skilled-immigrants-to-be-matched-with-vacant-jobs-in-2015-1.2514673
So unless you can get 1 year of work experience and apply for CEC in 2014 - you're very likely going to be hit by the new rules and new criteria.
Comments on your options:
Path A
- no LMO is require for certain working holiday visas
Path B
- it will be almost impossible to get a full year of work experience on a 1 year PGWP
- get a 1.5 year PGWP at a minimum (better to study 2 years and get 3 year PGWP)
Regina said:
For Ontario you can apply for PNP once you have graduated IF you have an employer who has gone through the pre-approval PNP application. Job still has to be NOC 0, A or B - BUT - Does not have to be in the related to your education.
http://www.ontarioimmigration.ca/en/pnp/OI_PNPNEW.html
mlatimudan said:
If you have a WH visa you don't need an LMO.
Also, you might want to check in to the fact that you can extend WH for one more year.
POssibly.
There are NO guarantees at all that you will get PR, no matter what route you chose. None what so ever.
itstime said:
What do you mean I don't need an LMO if I have a WH visa? The visa entitles me to work for just one year, and in order to get PR status I should find a job that's "LMO-able" and after having worked at said job for 1 year I can apply for PR status. That's how I understood it, that's how one of my friends got his PR status.
I'm not sure the WH visa can be extended.
Of course there are no guarantees, I get it and it's fine. I just want to do all that is required and then let Immigration officials determine whether I'm PR-able or not.
mlatimudan said:
Working Holiday Visas are open work permits. Open work permits allow you to accept a job without having to secure an approved LMO.
mlatimudan said:
Stop listening to what friends said. In particular those who have been through the process years ago. Rules change.
Go to www.canada.ca chose your preferred language, click on the immigration section and start reading - everything! That is where the government official information in regards to immigration can be found.
