Strategy for EE

[SuperMarco]

Hello,

For older people above 45, what is the best strategy (to receive EOI for EE) to compensate the age? language tests?

Thank you

 

[iSaidGoodDay]

Hello,

For older people above 45, what is the best strategy (to receive EOI for EE) to compensate the age? language tests?

Thank you

When you calculate your points in the EE eligibility, were you eligible? I don't remember the eligibility by age anymore, but you need 67 or more points to be eligible for EE

If you aren't eligible, PNPs (non-EE) would be your route.

 

[canuck78]

Hello,

For older people above 45, what is the best strategy (to receive EOI for EE) to compensate the age? language tests?

Thank you

There is no way to really compensate for age these days. It is tough enough to obtain PR when you are under 40. Economic pathways favour younger people.

 

[CanGoldDigger]

There is no way to really compensate for age these days. It is tough enough to obtain PR when you are under 40. Economic pathways favour younger people.

Although 45 is okay if you can qualify for CEC or FSW and speak French.

 

[SuperMarco]

When you calculate your points in the EE eligibility, were you eligible? I don't remember the eligibility by age anymore, but you need 67 or more points to be eligible for EE

If you aren't eligible, PNPs (non-EE) would be your route.

unfortunately above 45, difficult to have many point due to age, so sadly i would have if i apply to work on english langage test. I don't think i have options (like people who have family or work offer)

 

[scylla]

unfortunately above 45, difficult to have many point due to age, so sadly i would have if i apply to work on english langage test. I don't think i have options (like people who have family or work offer)

Learn French fluently and then you may have some options

 

[CanGoldDigger]

unfortunately above 45, difficult to have many point due to age, so sadly i would have if i apply to work on english langage test. I don't think i have options (like people who have family or work offer)

I know personally 2 persons that are currently in the middle of finalizing their PR at the age of 45 + thru Express Entry. So it's feasible.

 

[megaman]

I admit I'm tired of seeing replies where, as soon as people find out a poster is over 45, without knowing anything about them they are automatically very dismissive. I agree that generally economic immigration is for the young, but no need to be so quick to judge... There are critical classes of people who bring huge value to Canada by virtue of their experience (and accumulated resources). The average age of a successful startup founder is 45. Many executives and senior managers are at least in that age ballpark. Full professors (with significant grant support and a large well-established research team) average age 50. Those are just a few examples - Yes, these are special cases, but these types of folks make a disproportionate impact socially and/or economically when they arrive. I'm glad Canada does have programs and priorities that are clearly designed to value things besides age.

 

[CanGoldDigger]

I admit I'm tired of seeing replies where, as soon as people find out a poster is over 45, without knowing anything about them they are automatically very dismissive. I agree that generally economic immigration is for the young, but no need to be so quick to judge... There are critical classes of people who bring huge value to Canada by virtue of their experience (and accumulated resources). The average age of a successful startup founder is 45. Many executives and senior managers are at least in that age ballpark. Full professors (with significant grant support and a large well-established research team) average age 50. Those are just a few examples - Yes, these are special cases, but these types of folks make a disproportionate impact socially and/or economically when they arrive. I'm glad Canada does have programs and priorities that are clearly designed to value things besides age.

Yup, agism is very common here and very discouraging.

 

[iSaidGoodDay]

I admit I'm tired of seeing replies where, as soon as people find out a poster is over 45, without knowing anything about them they are automatically very dismissive. I agree that generally economic immigration is for the young, but no need to be so quick to judge... There are critical classes of people who bring huge value to Canada by virtue of their experience (and accumulated resources). The average age of a successful startup founder is 45. Many executives and senior managers are at least in that age ballpark. Full professors (with significant grant support and a large well-established research team) average age 50. Those are just a few examples - Yes, these are special cases, but these types of folks make a disproportionate impact socially and/or economically when they arrive. I'm glad Canada does have programs and priorities that are clearly designed to value things besides age.

> without knowing anything about them they are automatically very dismissive.

I specifically asked about eligibility. We can't suggest EE to someone who isn't eligible, right? OP also specifically asked about EE.

>but no need to be so quick to judge
There are at least two responses that asked about eligibility or suggested solutions.

>The average age of a successful startup founder is 45.

Nothing that'll change the eligibility criteria. I'm a serial founder with multiple successful exists and I don't related to this.

 

[iSaidGoodDay]

unfortunately above 45, difficult to have many point due to age, so sadly i would have if i apply to work on english langage test. I don't think i have options (like people who have family or work offer)

But, what about the eligibility itself? You can layer French on top to qualify if you have more than 67 points to qualify.

 

[megaman]

> without knowing anything about them they are automatically very dismissive.

I specifically asked about eligibility. We can't suggest EE to someone who isn't eligible, right? OP also specifically asked about EE.

>but no need to be so quick to judge
There are at least two responses that asked about eligibility or suggested solutions.

>The average age of a successful startup founder is 45.

Nothing that'll change the eligibility criteria. I'm a serial founder with multiple successful exists and I don't related to this.

I think I was reacting to the comment from another poster that "there is no way to really compensate for age these days", plus some snide comments I had read on other threads today. Even for EE that is not really accurate (as you and others did point out). I do take your point that the entrepreneurial route is not relevant to EE. (I am also a startup founder with one successful exit, but not in Canada)

 

[canuck78]

I admit I'm tired of seeing replies where, as soon as people find out a poster is over 45, without knowing anything about them they are automatically very dismissive. I agree that generally economic immigration is for the young, but no need to be so quick to judge... There are critical classes of people who bring huge value to Canada by virtue of their experience (and accumulated resources). The average age of a successful startup founder is 45. Many executives and senior managers are at least in that age ballpark. Full professors (with significant grant support and a large well-established research team) average age 50. Those are just a few examples - Yes, these are special cases, but these types of folks make a disproportionate impact socially and/or economically when they arrive. I'm glad Canada does have programs and priorities that are clearly designed to value things besides age.

This has nothing to do with not valuing the skills of people over 40/45. This is purely a comment about existing economic immigration programs. After job points were removed most options for those over 40 were closed. I think it’s problematic and will need to be addressed but does not change the current options. In general there is lots of evidence that in general economic immigrants do better when they arrive in Canada when they are younger. There are of course exceptions and also likely depends on the citizenship of the immigrant. Most of the successful older immigrants are moving to Canada due to a job offer or intracompany transfer in a high skilled and more senior position.

 

[SuperMarco]

I admit I'm tired of seeing replies where, as soon as people find out a poster is over 45, without knowing anything about them they are automatically very dismissive. I agree that generally economic immigration is for the young, but no need to be so quick to judge... There are critical classes of people who bring huge value to Canada by virtue of their experience (and accumulated resources). The average age of a successful startup founder is 45. Many executives and senior managers are at least in that age ballpark. Full professors (with significant grant support and a large well-established research team) average age 50. Those are just a few examples - Yes, these are special cases, but these types of folks make a disproportionate impact socially and/or economically when they arrive. I'm glad Canada does have programs and priorities that are clearly designed to value things besides age.

Thanks a lot. Indeed, Australia and less NZ put a limit on age which is weird.

 

[SuperMarco]

This has nothing to do with not valuing the skills of people over 40/45. This is purely a comment about existing economic immigration programs. After job points were removed most options for those over 40 were closed. I think it’s problematic and will need to be addressed but does not change the current options. In general there is lots of evidence that in general economic immigrants do better when they arrive in Canada when they are younger. There are of course exceptions and also likely depends on the citizenship of the immigrant. Most of the successful older immigrants are moving to Canada due to a job offer or intracompany transfer in a high skilled and more senior position.

unfortunately, i think you are right.