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[majesty]

A generous journalist from CTV is willing to interview few people from Calgary who are facing this issue currently or faced it in the near past to make our voice heard. Please let me know if anyone is interested as I am not in Calgary currently.

Or do you guys even think its worth a shot going to media? Would that piss off people? I am not sure

I'm in Calgary, but I don't have a problem with getting a TRV as my partner doesn't need one. I do however have other issues about family sponsorship I can talk to them about.

 

[majesty]

My wife is from a country that's difficult to get TRV from, and she was married already to me before applying for one. I remember asking people on this forum about applying for one, and almost everyone said it was impossible to get a TRV when married, but I went ahead and spent a lot of time and submitted lots of docs, and she got one valid for life of her passport. Subsequently, we applied a trv for her mom, and she got one valid for life of her passport as well.

While its true that luck plays a part in the success of getting a TRV, I believe most of it depends on the strength of the application. I tend to see a lot of refusals stem from people not submitting enough docs or not going into detail as to purpose of visit, or getting someone to deposit a large amount of money into bank acccount to prove sufficient funds (a common mistake) . Its true that a visitor is supposed to show theyre only here temporarily despite applying for PR as a spouse, but you can prove that you're a PR applicant who will leave Canada before the TRV expires

This is true. Today I met a guy who used to be an immigration officer. He also said to me that part (not always of course) of the reason it took so long was that people did not include relevant/important information in their applications or do other suspect things that causes refusals or for them to have to investigate further, which in this case may just result in a refusal.

Good to see the other side of the coin too.

 

[ateja]

I'm in Calgary, but I don't have a problem with getting a TRV as my partner doesn't need one. I do however have other issues about family sponsorship I can talk to them about.

Specifically I guess she would be looking for something related to the petition .. as long as those interests line up I can volunteer your name? Let me know ..

 

[majesty]

Specifically I guess she would be looking for something related to the petition .. as long as those interests line up I can volunteer your name? Let me know ..

I am not sure I can offer much specifically about the issues outlined in the petition as we didn't have any barriers in seeing each other during the process.

 

[mikeymyke]

I am not sure, I just wanted to see how things go and where things go. My main appeal is not to fasten the PR process as I do understand that is going to be hard and government is already doing their best.
I just think we need something like dependent visa or approve visitor visa right away. I got my visitor visa rejected and I think same with quiet a few out there. That is totally unfair. Secondly there should be more transparency on the process itself as to where and why the file is stuck. Like some people are so frustrated like march applicants while I think some of june and july applicants got their PR so its kinda scary.

Although I sympathize with people who are unable to get their spouses here, I would have to strongly disagree with just being able to automatically grant them a visitor visa just simply because they're your spouse. They have to go through security and background checks, check immigration history to see that they don't have a history of overstay/illegal work, ensure they have enough money for their stay, and if they're likely to return to their country. What if your spouse has committed a serious crime? Should we let him in "automatically" just because he's your spouse? If yes, should we just trust your word that he'll "be on his best behaviour?" If no, should we then automatically ban anyone whose spouse has a criminal record, from entering?

Everyone's got to prove they're a genuine visitor, whether a spouse or not.

Also you mentioned your spouse was unfairly refused a TRV for purpose of visit. How did you guys demonstrate his purpose of visit was valid? Did you just simply say "he's going to visit me?" What did you submit as documents?

Also you mentioned how important it was for husband and wife to live together after marriage, so if the visitor visa is refused, why dont you just go live with him until he gets his PR?

 

[ateja]

Although I sympathize with people who are unable to get their spouses here, I would have to strongly disagree with just being able to automatically grant them a visitor visa just simply because they're your spouse. They have to go through security and background checks, check immigration history to see that they don't have a history of overstay/illegal work, ensure they have enough money for their stay, and if they're likely to return to their country. What if your spouse has committed a serious crime? Should we let him in "automatically" just because he's your spouse? If yes, should we just trust your word that he'll "be on his best behaviour?" If no, should we then automatically ban anyone whose spouse has a criminal record, from entering?

Everyone's got to prove they're a genuine visitor, whether a spouse or not.

Also you mentioned your spouse was unfairly refused a TRV for purpose of visit. How did you guys demonstrate his purpose of visit was valid? Did you just simply say "he's going to visit me?" What did you submit as documents?

Also you mentioned how important it was for husband and wife to live together after marriage, so if the visitor visa is refused, why dont you just go live with him until he gets his PR?

You have a point, I agree with the background check item. I think that step should remain the same, the process should remain the same as TRV is really not taking that long anyways, but my point is given that everything is good with background and proof of funds and all they should be approved to be fair.

I mentioned its important for us to celebrate festivals, christmas, new years and our first birthday to build memories and strengthen the relationship. I provided background police clearance and proof of funds but I read on this thread that it is a common mistake.

I was refused on the following grounds:

- You have not satisfied me that you would leave Canada at the end of your stay as a temporary resident. In reaching this decision, I considered several factors, including:
- Purpose of visit ( I did submit an itinerary though, but I dint purchase the flight tickets because that would be risky, what if I dont get approved? I lose my flight tickets $$)
- You do not meet the eligibility requirements necessary to make an application for an electronic travel authorization as per 7.01(2) of the Immigration and Refugee Protection Regulations, as our records indicate that you did not hold a Canadian temporary resident visa at any time during the 10-year period immediately preceding the day on which you made your application, or you did not hold a valid United States nonimmigrant visa on the day in which you made your application.


First two atleast make little sense, the third point is total BS I thought unless I am interpreting it wrong. I know you guys are much more experienced in this and may be can help me. Should I even consider re-applying this?

 

[mikeymyke]

I mentioned its important for us to celebrate festivals, christmas, new years and our first birthday to build memories and strengthen the relationship. I provided background police clearance and proof of funds but I read on this thread that it is a common mistake.

I was refused on the following grounds:

- You have not satisfied me that you would leave Canada at the end of your stay as a temporary resident. In reaching this decision, I considered several factors, including:
- Purpose of visit ( I did submit an itinerary though, but I dint purchase the flight tickets because that would be risky, what if I dont get approved? I lose my flight tickets $$)
- You do not meet the eligibility requirements necessary to make an application for an electronic travel authorization as per 7.01(2) of the Immigration and Refugee Protection Regulations, as our records indicate that you did not hold a Canadian temporary resident visa at any time during the 10-year period immediately preceding the day on which you made your application, or you did not hold a valid United States nonimmigrant visa on the day in which you made your application.


First two atleast make little sense, the third point is total BS I thought unless I am interpreting it wrong. I know you guys are much more experienced in this and may be can help me. Should I even consider re-applying this?

Proof of funds is only a mistake if someone else is putting money into another person's account.

Purpose of visit. Your job is to convince them that he is only here temporarily, and that he will leave. It's fine to mention all that stuff about needing to strengthen the relationship, spend time together, etc, but that in itself doesn't really show he's only going to be a temporary visitor. Did you mention why you can't just simply spend time together in his home country, hence the need for him to get a visitor visa to come here? Did you tell them where he will be staying, where he will be going while he's here, if you're going to take time off work while he's here, if he's going to visit relatives, what places will he go see, why he's not an overstay risk, etc?

And why did you apply for an eta? Indian nationals don't need one

 

[canuck_in_uk]

You have a point, I agree with the background check item. I think that step should remain the same, the process should remain the same as TRV is really not taking that long anyways, but my point is given that everything is good with background and proof of funds and all they should be approved to be fair.

I mentioned its important for us to celebrate festivals, christmas, new years and our first birthday to build memories and strengthen the relationship. I provided background police clearance and proof of funds but I read on this thread that it is a common mistake.

I was refused on the following grounds:

- You have not satisfied me that you would leave Canada at the end of your stay as a temporary resident. In reaching this decision, I considered several factors, including:
- Purpose of visit ( I did submit an itinerary though, but I dint purchase the flight tickets because that would be risky, what if I dont get approved? I lose my flight tickets $$)
- You do not meet the eligibility requirements necessary to make an application for an electronic travel authorization as per 7.01(2) of the Immigration and Refugee Protection Regulations, as our records indicate that you did not hold a Canadian temporary resident visa at any time during the 10-year period immediately preceding the day on which you made your application, or you did not hold a valid United States nonimmigrant visa on the day in which you made your application.


First two atleast make little sense, the third point is total BS I thought unless I am interpreting it wrong. I know you guys are much more experienced in this and may be can help me. Should I even consider re-applying this?

The very first thing you should have done when you got that refusal was to Google the IRPA Regulation that it refers to. That particular regulation is a very specific exemption allowing people of certain countries (currently only Brazil is on the list) who meet certain requirements to apply for an eTA instead of a TRV.

Did you apply for a TRV or an eTA?