Security Screening duration update

[am1978]

Greetings folks!

I came across this alarming post on LinkedIn by immigration lawyer Steven Meurrens and thought it might be beneficial to share. LinkedIn Link.

Basically, a comprehensive security check by IRCC & respective agencies for permanent residence applications will take 64 months at current inventory levels.

 

[Naturgrl]

Greetings folks!

I came across this alarming post on LinkedIn by immigration lawyer Steven Meurrens and thought it might be beneficial to share. LinkedIn Link.

Basically, a comprehensive security check by IRCC & respective agencies for permanent residence applications will take 64 months at current inventory levels.

You have misread so read the whole article. It says "security screening referred to a partner agency" not IRCC. Of course if sent to a partner agency it is going to take a long time and always has as depends on your citizenship and where you have lived. Nothing has changed. For example, it can take years for a Chinese citizen to have security cleared. Why? Because CSIS has to conduct an investigation as well as wait for security, background and immigration information from the Chinese government. This can take years.

If from Europe, UK or Australia, IRCC will probably not send it to a partner agency. So take out IRCC from your discussion.

 

[tripko]

Im on security check for long time, its nightmare for me, currently has pass 26 months on SS and end of February will be 3 years since I did submit my aplication.
I can't not move with my life or to change a job for example, I stuck with my job, even I lose it i can just pack my bags and go back. I have feeling that I'm just wasting my time.

 

[am1978]

You have misread so read the whole article. It says "security screening referred to a partner agency" not IRCC. Of course if sent to a partner agency it is going to take a long time and always has as depends on your citizenship and where you have lived. Nothing has changed. For example, it can take years for a Chinese citizen to have security cleared. Why? Because CSIS has to conduct an investigation as well as wait for security, background and immigration information from the Chinese government. This can take years.

If from Europe, UK or Australia, IRCC will probably not send it to a partner agency. So take out IRCC from your discussion.

Appreciate the feedback.

I did not misread the article. Yes, I understood the delegated security screening combined is resulting in those 64 months estimate. And this is why in the my original post I used the words, "respective agencies".

But, please, lets be honest, as applicants, at the end of the day, we are hoping for relief from IRCC alone because that is were our application files / virtual folders / PDF's are stuck.

Hope that makes sense.

 

[Naturgrl]

Appreciate the feedback.

I did not misread the article. Yes, I understood the delegated security screening combined is resulting in those 64 months estimate. And this is why in the my original post I used the words, "respective agencies".

But, please, lets be honest, as applicants, at the end of the day, we are hoping for relief from IRCC alone because that is were our application files / virtual folders / PDF's are stuck.

Hope that makes sense.

Still misunderstanding the post. Take out IRCC as it is not an IRCC issue if security, background and immigration checks go out to other agencies. Once it does this has really nothing to do with IRCC. IRCC has to wait for the information from the agencies. IRCC cannot move a file along without that information. From a security and safety issue then those respective agencies can take as long as they want. A file should not be moved along if another foreign government is not submitting the requesting information.

So argue with the foreign governments where you have lived and have citizenship to demand they move on your files. That is why it is stuck.

 

[am1978]

Still misunderstanding the post. Take out IRCC as it is not an IRCC issue if security, background and immigration checks go out to other agencies. Once it does this has really nothing to do with IRCC. IRCC has to wait for the information from the agencies. IRCC cannot move a file along without that information. From a security and safety issue then those respective agencies can take as long as they want. A file should not be moved along if another foreign government is not submitting the requesting information.

So argue with the foreign governments where you have lived and have citizenship to demand they move on your files. That is why it is stuck.

You missed the part where the "foreign government" is unknown when SS is stuck and travel history is more than 1 country. Plus, there is really no proper channel to coordinate and resolve any outstanding questions through.

So, yes, okay, not IRCC's fault, but there is no recourse through IRCC to resolve SS concerns with. There is really NOTHING to do but wait.

And that is entirely where the frustration is :-(

 

[armoured]

You have misread so read the whole article. It says "security screening referred to a partner agency" not IRCC. Of course if sent to a partner agency it is going to take a long time and always has as depends on your citizenship and where you have lived. Nothing has changed. For example, it can take years for a Chinese citizen to have security cleared. Why? Because CSIS has to conduct an investigation as well as wait for security, background and immigration information from the Chinese government. This can take years.

If from Europe, UK or Australia, IRCC will probably not send it to a partner agency. So take out IRCC from your discussion.

For IRCC 'partner agency' I think generally refers to CSIS, possibly RCMP for criminality, CBSA conceivably for some issues, but this is mostly about domestic Canadian services. They do not directly 'farm out' to foreign agencies. Each of those may in turn have info-sharing and ways to get info from their sister-agencies abroad and international (eg Interpol) - in some of these cases (close partners and allies) extremely close coop and info-sharing.

To what extent they request and 'wait for' info from non-allies is going to depend on circumstances, but I seriously doubt that they often send general requests and just wait. Esp for 'security.' For some countries like this there is/was reasonable cooperation for some things (plain old criminality eg getting and confirming criminal records) and specific areas of joint interest (eg terrorism in other parts of the world, thematic possibly like money laundering / smuggling / weapons). But they also know there is a LOT of information they cannot share (where it could imperil anyone in Canada) or ask about.

So yes, it can be very hard for them to get reliable info from abroad, particularly in/regarding some countries. But delays not likely because they're waiting for responses from those, shall we say, 'less friendly' foreign services.

[I may have misunderstood exactly what you're suggesting but my own attempt at muddying the waters anyway]