requirements for citizenship will increase to 5 years

[LPS]

To my mind, the idea of spending most of your permanent residence overseas, and then expecting citizenship to follow, is like eating your cake and having it too.

Don't worry, once you get your citizenship and get your passport, you can move to Belize and get a tan.

 

[maza]

Parliament will refuse it, loving the country and getting used to system has nothing to do with limiting the new residents choice of moving around and leaving as long as they mainly stay here. Us and australian system are so. Canadians are smart and will not make this pass. They sgould protect the passport and keep it so worthy, but without making people suffer .. 6 years?!?! That's so much..

Those who are happy with it, i feel sorry for you.

 

[PMM]

Hi

Parliament will refuse it, loving the country and getting used to system has nothing to do with limiting the new residents choice of moving around and leaving as long as they mainly stay here. Us and australian system are so. Canadians are smart and will not make this pass. They sgould protect the passport and keep it so worthy, but without making people suffer .. 6 years?!?! That's so much..

Those who are happy with it, i feel sorry for you.

Your living in a dream world. Introduced by the Conservatives who have a majority in Parliament, the Conservatives aren't going to vote against their own bill.

 

[maza]

Hi


Your living in a dream world. Introduced by the Conservatives who have a majority in Parliament, the Conservatives aren't going to vote against their own bill.

Let's at least have hope ;D

 

[LPS]

Parliament will refuse it, loving the country and getting used to system has nothing to do with limiting the new residents choice of moving around and leaving as long as they mainly stay here. Us and australian system are so. Canadians are smart and will not make this pass. They sgould protect the passport and keep it so worthy, but without making people suffer .. 6 years?!?! That's so much..

I doubt this measure will be politically unpopular with Canadians.

US and Australian systems are "so"... what? So different? That's probably true (Australian citizenship does require a good amount of physical presence, but they are still counting time spent in the country prior to PR).

I'm curious about what's so much better about the US system, though.

Those who are happy with it, i feel sorry for you.

For new requirement to be in the country physically, I couldn't care less - it just makes sense.

The decision to increase the duration of residence, and to no longer count the time spent in the country prior to PR, is a bit rough.

 

[thisisauser]

The decision to increase the duration of residence, and to no longer count the time spent in the country prior to PR, is a bit rough.

Yes, that's the biggest (only?) problem with this proposal. If it's a matter of getting used to Canadian culture and values, what changed that makes it suddenly take three times as long and makes time prior to PR not part of the integration experience?

 

[Konan1982]

Changing laws is screwing me and now with non counting time before PR ll mean that I ll get citizenship in 10 years in total ..

 

[maza]

10 yeaes.. that's too much.. did u count the time for the processing of the citizenship? They are talking about a year.. so basically 6 to apply and 7 till u become citizen after u get your PR!! As if one's expected lofe is 1000 year.

 

[scylla]

I doubt this measure will be politically unpopular with Canadians.

You're 100% correct. Poll after poll after poll has shown that the majority of voting Canadians are in favour of tougher immigration and citizenship laws. So the majority of Canadian voters are going to be in favour of this measure. Interestingly enough a recent poll has shown that the group of citizens who are most in favour of tougher immigration / citizenship laws are naturalized Canadians (i.e. those who became citizens through immigration rather than getting citizenship through being born in Canada).

 

[torontosm]

Canadians are smart and will not make this pass. They sgould protect the passport and keep it so worthy, but without making people suffer .. 6 years?!?! That's so much..

Actually, Canadians do not view living in Canada as "making people suffer". Therefore, my understanding of the general popular sentiment is that most people support these new measures, regardless of political affiliation. I know I do!

 

[jsm0085]

Ultimately this won't be an issue for those who actually intend to reside in Canada for the foreseeable. I'm a bit bummed by the fact that none of my experience prior to PR will count, but I understand why they are looking at the new proposals.

The only people this will effect are those who wanted to get a Canadian passport and then leave. This is exactly why they are changing the rules!

 

[iamroth]

Actually, Canadians do not view living in Canada as "making people suffer". Therefore, my understanding of the general popular sentiment is that most people support these new measures, regardless of political affiliation. I know I do!

But as far I read, you already got your citizenship. Now you are supporting a bill, which would toughen the requirement for others.

 

[on-hold]

Actually, Canadians do not view living in Canada as "making people suffer". Therefore, my understanding of the general popular sentiment is that most people support these new measures, regardless of political affiliation. I know I do!

I support it too, and I would have applied in November of this year -- but I think that waiting a year (with faster processing time hopefully) is perfectly acceptable; and I appreciate that they also raised the time one can be out of Canada, it was very decent of them to do that for people who might have been banking on the 3/4 scheme.

But it sure sucks for people who were counting on using time before PR to apply -- this adds as much as two full years to their timelines. I wonder why they decided being a student or a temporary worker doesn't let one learn about being Canadian?

 

[on-hold]

Actually, Canadians do not view living in Canada as "making people suffer". Therefore, my understanding of the general popular sentiment is that most people support these new measures, regardless of political affiliation. I know I do!

Only at times, like now . . .

The truth is, not only does this bill not really increase the burden on anyone planning to live here, but the two year allowance for being out of Canada increases their freedom to do other things and still become a citizen.

 

[torontosm]

But as far I read, you already got your citizenship. Now you are supporting a bill, which would toughen the requirement for others.

I'm actually supporting a bill that will better this country in the long run. There is nothing personal about any of my political views.