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zakout76

Champion Member
Sep 1, 2009
1,627
27
Dear sun
Thanks for u kind reply
Dear 3000 its costly i cant pay this amont really
Maybe i will wait till next year to apply to quebec or toronto according to new system
And i will do alone without lawyer as all lier
Take care
 

shahid22507

Full Member
Sep 15, 2011
22
1
Lahore
Category........
Visa Office......
London
NOC Code......
7242,9222,0911
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
19-03-2010
Doc's Request.
19-05-2010
AOR Received.
19-05-2010
IELTS Request
With Application
File Transfer...
26-05-2010 Document Sent:20-05-2010 2nd AOR: 27-07-2010 In process: 27-07-2010 Decision Made: 23-05-2012
Med's Request
Waiting
Med's Done....
Waiting
Passport Req..
Waiting
VISA ISSUED...
Waiting
LANDED..........
Waiting
Zee81 said:
I don't thing they will consider any REVISED letters from your previous employers and specially if these are showing current date.... don't expect them to reconsider these as they only consider the documents provided at the time of Full submission..........

I had advised you earlier that just explain in your own words, take each performed JD one by one (as per already submitted experience letters) and compare it with the NOC Jd, explain how these are related..... instead you have asked your employer to re-issue the experience letters, mentioning the JD performed!!! Just imagine what the VO will think???? Only that you have contacted the employer to draft a letter as per your requirement OR you have drafted it at your own...... The the credibility of your case will be questioned.....
dear zee,

I really appericiate your concerns, but there was no other option left with me. my previous job letters which i sent lvo in july, 2010 were quite simple and standered experience letters. I just made a try. these new jd letters are obtained from both of my previous employers on special request.
let's see the result. you know I have nothing left to loose any more in this immigration matter. they have already rejected my case. I feel it is better rather then wait for another six month to re-apply or take another chance through this reconsideration letter.

what so ever thanks for your comments.

regards,

shahid
 

Zee81

Hero Member
Jun 21, 2011
499
9
Category........
Visa Office......
London
NOC Code......
0711
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
25-03-2010
Doc's Request.
20-May-2010 (Sent 05-07-2010)
AOR Received.
27-07-2010
IELTS Request
Provided with documents
File Transfer...
01-06-2010
Med's Request
10-11-2012 (Case Refused & Re-opened in Aug. 2012)
Med's Done....
21-11-2012
Interview........
Waived
Passport Req..
PPR-1 26-06-2013 ; PPR-2 30-07-2013
VISA ISSUED...
03-08-2013
LANDED..........
05-09-2013 (Calgary, AB)
shahid22507 said:
dear zee,

I really appericiate your concerns, but there was no other option left with me. my previous job letters which i sent lvo in july, 2010 were quite simple and standered experience letters. I just made a try. these new jd letters are obtained from both of my previous employers on special request.
let's see the result. you know I have nothing left to loose any more in this immigration matter. they have already rejected my case. I feel it is better rather then wait for another six month to re-apply or take another chance through this reconsideration letter.

what so ever thanks for your comments.

regards,

shahid
Thanks for clarification... You did the right thing by sending them the new letters....

but I would still think that they will not reconsider your case as you do not have any respresentation.... It would have been much better to send the reconsideration letter through a Lawyer, chances would have been much higher in that case...........
 

shahid22507

Full Member
Sep 15, 2011
22
1
Lahore
Category........
Visa Office......
London
NOC Code......
7242,9222,0911
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
19-03-2010
Doc's Request.
19-05-2010
AOR Received.
19-05-2010
IELTS Request
With Application
File Transfer...
26-05-2010 Document Sent:20-05-2010 2nd AOR: 27-07-2010 In process: 27-07-2010 Decision Made: 23-05-2012
Med's Request
Waiting
Med's Done....
Waiting
Passport Req..
Waiting
VISA ISSUED...
Waiting
LANDED..........
Waiting
Zee81 said:
Thanks for clarification... You did the right thing by sending them the new letters....

but I would still think that they will not reconsider your case as you do not have any respresentation.... It would have been much better to send the reconsideration letter through a Lawyer, chances would have been much higher in that case...........
there is another point which is considerable in my case. my proffesion is highly demanded in canada and from last three consecutive years it is in the list of cic. not only this, if we carefully examine the number of applications, applied for this proffesion, that has never been reached to its limit of 500 in any year.

rest is my fate dear.
 

Zee81

Hero Member
Jun 21, 2011
499
9
Category........
Visa Office......
London
NOC Code......
0711
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
25-03-2010
Doc's Request.
20-May-2010 (Sent 05-07-2010)
AOR Received.
27-07-2010
IELTS Request
Provided with documents
File Transfer...
01-06-2010
Med's Request
10-11-2012 (Case Refused & Re-opened in Aug. 2012)
Med's Done....
21-11-2012
Interview........
Waived
Passport Req..
PPR-1 26-06-2013 ; PPR-2 30-07-2013
VISA ISSUED...
03-08-2013
LANDED..........
05-09-2013 (Calgary, AB)
shahid22507 said:
there is another point which is considerable in my case. my proffesion is highly demanded in canada and from last three consecutive years it is in the list of cic. not only this, if we carefully examine the number of applications, applied for this proffesion, that has never been reached to its limit of 500 in any year.

rest is my fate dear.
They do not bother about the demand in Canadian job market... they are only to process the visa application based on your provided documents... CIC is responsible for selecting the occupations in demand in Canada not CHC.....

Ok wish you good luck and do email them the soft copy of your letter to get an early response within 2-3 weeks....
 

zakout76

Champion Member
Sep 1, 2009
1,627
27
hi all

i just recived refused letter by e-mail/

Dear Mohamed Ismail Zakout,

Thank you for your application for permanent residence in Canada as a Federal
Skilled Worker. I have now completed the assessment of your application and
have determined that you are not eligible for processing in this category for
the reason(s) noted below.

The Minister of Citizenship and Immigration issued instructions which were
published in the Canada Gazette on November 28, 2008. These instructions
specify that only applicants who have Arranged Employment Offers, who are
legally residing in Canada and have been there for at least one year as
Temporary Foreign Workers or International Students, or who have work
experience in certain listed occupations are eligible to be processed in the
Federal Skilled Worker class.

You have indicated that you have work experience in an occupation with the
following NOC (National Occupational Classification) code(s): 0632 -
Accommodation Service Managers.

Although the NOC code(s) correspond(s) to the occupations specified in the
Instructions, I am not satisfied that you have a minimum of one year of
continuous full-time, or equivalent part-time, paid work experience in the
occupation(s) in the last ten years.

Since you did not provide satisfactory evidence that you have work experience
in any of the listed occupations, you do not meet the requirements of the
Ministerial Instructions and your application is not eligible for processing.

Subsections 87.3(2)-(3) are the pertinent sections of the Immigration and
Refugee Protection Act:

The processing of applications and requests is to be conducted in a manner
that, in the opinion of the Minister, will best support the attainment of the
immigration goals established by the Government of Canada.
the Minister may give instructions with respect to the processing of
applications and requests, including instructions

(a) establishing categories of applications or requests to which the
instructions apply;
(b) establishing an order, by category or otherwise, for the processing of
applications or requests;
(c) setting the number of applications or requests, by category or otherwise,
to be processed in any year; and
(d) providing for the disposition of applications and requests, including
those made subsequent to the first application or request.
All irreplaceable original documents, which were not obtained for the purpose
of submitting an application for immigration, are being returned to you.
The processing fee that you have paid is refundable. Please refer to the
attached "Request for Banking Information" form for details of information
you need to provide.
There are many ways to immigrate to Canada. Although you have not satisfied
the requirements to apply under the Federal Skilled Worker class, you may
qualify under another category. To learn more about your options, visit
www.cic.gc.ca/english/immigrate/index.asp.
Thank you for your interest in Canada.
High Commission of Canada
___________________________________________

i didint understand and i apply as reservation manager in travel agent

pls advice
thanks

zakout
 

destination canada

Hero Member
Jun 22, 2012
642
15
Category........
Visa Office......
LONDON
NOC Code......
1111
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
June 2010
Doc's Request.
October 2010
AOR Received.
Nova-Scotia, October 2010
File Transfer...
Full Docs to LVO - January 2011, Second AOR May-2011
Med's Request
Feb.2014
Med's Done....
Feb.2014
Passport Req..
PPR-1 & PPR-2 on June 2014
VISA ISSUED...
July 2014
LANDED..........
Dec 2014
zakout76 said:
hi all

i just recived refused letter by e-mail/

Dear Mohamed Ismail Zakout,

Thank you for your application for permanent residence in Canada as a Federal
Skilled Worker. I have now completed the assessment of your application and
have determined that you are not eligible for processing in this category for
the reason(s) noted below.

The Minister of Citizenship and Immigration issued instructions which were
published in the Canada Gazette on November 28, 2008. These instructions
specify that only applicants who have Arranged Employment Offers, who are
legally residing in Canada and have been there for at least one year as
Temporary Foreign Workers or International Students, or who have work
experience in certain listed occupations are eligible to be processed in the
Federal Skilled Worker class.

You have indicated that you have work experience in an occupation with the
following NOC (National Occupational Classification) code(s): 0632 -
Accommodation Service Managers.

Although the NOC code(s) correspond(s) to the occupations specified in the
Instructions, I am not satisfied that you have a minimum of one year of
continuous full-time, or equivalent part-time, paid work experience in the
occupation(s) in the last ten years.

Since you did not provide satisfactory evidence that you have work experience
in any of the listed occupations, you do not meet the requirements of the
Ministerial Instructions and your application is not eligible for processing.

Subsections 87.3(2)-(3) are the pertinent sections of the Immigration and
Refugee Protection Act:

The processing of applications and requests is to be conducted in a manner
that, in the opinion of the Minister, will best support the attainment of the
immigration goals established by the Government of Canada.
the Minister may give instructions with respect to the processing of
applications and requests, including instructions

(a) establishing categories of applications or requests to which the
instructions apply;
(b) establishing an order, by category or otherwise, for the processing of
applications or requests;
(c) setting the number of applications or requests, by category or otherwise,
to be processed in any year; and
(d) providing for the disposition of applications and requests, including
those made subsequent to the first application or request.
All irreplaceable original documents, which were not obtained for the purpose
of submitting an application for immigration, are being returned to you.
The processing fee that you have paid is refundable. Please refer to the
attached "Request for Banking Information" form for details of information
you need to provide.
There are many ways to immigrate to Canada. Although you have not satisfied
the requirements to apply under the Federal Skilled Worker class, you may
qualify under another category. To learn more about your options, visit
www.cic.gc.ca/english/immigrate/index.asp.
Thank you for your interest in Canada.
High Commission of Canada
___________________________________________

i didint understand and i apply as reservation manager in travel agent

pls advice
thanks

zakout
Dear Zakout,

your email clearly specify that you had applied as a accommodation service manage noc:0632, but you have applied as reservation manager??? so, i guess your job description letters also holds information regarding reservation manager, it seems, you applied for FSW with a wrong noc that dont belongs to your occupation. i belief, you made a fatal mistake, not understanding the noc properly, anyways, if your occupation does exist in coming 1, jan, 2013, you can simply apply again with the proper job letters that correspond with your noc. best of luck buddy, take care.
 

asif ghouri

Hero Member
Nov 2, 2009
249
4
Pakistan
Visa Office......
LONDON
NOC Code......
4131
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
18-05-2010
Doc's Request.
21-10-2010
AOR Received.
21-10-2010
IELTS Request
already done
File Transfer...
17-01-2011
Med's Done....
Decision Made 13-04-2012
Dear fellows
today when i checked My status it has changed from DM to RBVO. i got Refusal letter on 8th June 2012 on JD mismatch.I sent my re-consideration letter on 7th Jul 2012.
 

dreamfromafar

Star Member
Apr 14, 2009
192
4
Dubai, UAE
Category........
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
asif ghouri said:
Dear fellows
today when i checked My status it has changed from DM to RBVO. i got Refusal letter on 8th June 2012 on JD mismatch.I sent my re-consideration letter on 7th Jul 2012.
Wow, that was fast! Did you use a lawyer or a consultant to send the reconsideration letter for you? Is this your first time to send the letter? Also, did you receive a reply from CHC about the reconsideration letter you sent (via email or post)?
 

dreamfromafar

Star Member
Apr 14, 2009
192
4
Dubai, UAE
Category........
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
Zee,

What is the status of your 2nd appeal sent through Tim Leahy? Did you hear anything from your visa office?

I hope and pray that CHC will give us a chance and revisit our cases.

Thanks!
 

dreamfromafar

Star Member
Apr 14, 2009
192
4
Dubai, UAE
Category........
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
Rizwan and RLEX,

Please update us on the status of your appeal/applications. It would be very helpful if we can get a statistic of cases reconsidered due to JD mistmatch.

Thanks!
 

Zee81

Hero Member
Jun 21, 2011
499
9
Category........
Visa Office......
London
NOC Code......
0711
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
25-03-2010
Doc's Request.
20-May-2010 (Sent 05-07-2010)
AOR Received.
27-07-2010
IELTS Request
Provided with documents
File Transfer...
01-06-2010
Med's Request
10-11-2012 (Case Refused & Re-opened in Aug. 2012)
Med's Done....
21-11-2012
Interview........
Waived
Passport Req..
PPR-1 26-06-2013 ; PPR-2 30-07-2013
VISA ISSUED...
03-08-2013
LANDED..........
05-09-2013 (Calgary, AB)
zakout76 said:
hi all

i just recived refused letter by e-mail/

Dear Mohamed Ismail Zakout,

Thank you for your application for permanent residence in Canada as a Federal
Skilled Worker. I have now completed the assessment of your application and
have determined that you are not eligible for processing in this category for
the reason(s) noted below.

The Minister of Citizenship and Immigration issued instructions which were
published in the Canada Gazette on November 28, 2008. These instructions
specify that only applicants who have Arranged Employment Offers, who are
legally residing in Canada and have been there for at least one year as
Temporary Foreign Workers or International Students, or who have work
experience in certain listed occupations are eligible to be processed in the
Federal Skilled Worker class.

You have indicated that you have work experience in an occupation with the
following NOC (National Occupational Classification) code(s): 0632 -
Accommodation Service Managers.

Although the NOC code(s) correspond(s) to the occupations specified in the
Instructions, I am not satisfied that you have a minimum of one year of
continuous full-time, or equivalent part-time, paid work experience in the
occupation(s) in the last ten years.

Since you did not provide satisfactory evidence that you have work experience
in any of the listed occupations, you do not meet the requirements of the
Ministerial Instructions and your application is not eligible for processing.

Subsections 87.3(2)-(3) are the pertinent sections of the Immigration and
Refugee Protection Act:

The processing of applications and requests is to be conducted in a manner
that, in the opinion of the Minister, will best support the attainment of the
immigration goals established by the Government of Canada.
the Minister may give instructions with respect to the processing of
applications and requests, including instructions

(a) establishing categories of applications or requests to which the
instructions apply;
(b) establishing an order, by category or otherwise, for the processing of
applications or requests;
(c) setting the number of applications or requests, by category or otherwise,
to be processed in any year; and
(d) providing for the disposition of applications and requests, including
those made subsequent to the first application or request.
All irreplaceable original documents, which were not obtained for the purpose
of submitting an application for immigration, are being returned to you.
The processing fee that you have paid is refundable. Please refer to the
attached "Request for Banking Information" form for details of information
you need to provide.
There are many ways to immigrate to Canada. Although you have not satisfied
the requirements to apply under the Federal Skilled Worker class, you may
qualify under another category. To learn more about your options, visit
www.cic.gc.ca/english/immigrate/index.asp.
Thank you for your interest in Canada.
High Commission of Canada
___________________________________________

i didint understand and i apply as reservation manager in travel agent

pls advice
thanks

zakout
Its standard refusal letter, nothing different....
 

asif ghouri

Hero Member
Nov 2, 2009
249
4
Pakistan
Visa Office......
LONDON
NOC Code......
4131
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
18-05-2010
Doc's Request.
21-10-2010
AOR Received.
21-10-2010
IELTS Request
already done
File Transfer...
17-01-2011
Med's Done....
Decision Made 13-04-2012
dreamfromafar said:
Wow, that was fast! Did you use a lawyer or a consultant to send the reconsideration letter for you? Is this your first time to send the letter? Also, did you receive a reply from CHC about the reconsideration letter you sent (via email or post)?
i sent it myself. and in first letter i got this response. i have got response on the status not yet through e-mail or post, just waiting.