Received ITA on 10th Feb with wrong ECA information !!

[vivekforbes]

Again No.

ECA assesed his Canadian equivalency as Bachelors degree, and he needed to fill it as mentioned in assessed document.

I have 2 year PS Diploma and Foreign bachelors degree as same awarded in ECA assessment.

I filled in upper level of education section as "Two or more", and lower education as "Bachelors degree". I got full point (128).

 

[CanadaWeCome]

ECA assesed his Canadian equivalency as Bachelors degree, and he needed to fill it as mentioned in assessed document.

I have 2 year PS Diploma and Foreign bachelors degree as same awarded in ECA assessment.

I filled in upper level of education section as "Two or more", and lower education as "Bachelors degree". I got full point (128).

You may have got full points because the way EE system is that the moment it encounters 'Two or more...' it awards the applicant 128 points, but that does not mean thats the right way to fill it.

 

[vivekforbes]

I have one more question.

My friend completed 5 years foreign degree + 2 years PS Diploma course.

ECA assessment for his foreign degree is 4 years bachelor degree + PG diploma. How do we fill up with this one?

I was thinking to just add foreign degree (Only include 4 years bachelor) + Canadian diploma as two education items. Is that ok?

 

[CanadaWeCome]

I have one more question.

My friend completed 5 years foreign degree + 2 years PS Diploma course.

ECA assessment for his foreign degree is 4 years bachelor degree + PG diploma. How do we fill up with this one?

I was thinking to just add foreign degree (Only include 4 years bachelor) + Canadian diploma as two education items. Is that ok?

He can choose the 'Two or more...' option under the Canadian equivalency question when filling the 2nd qualification (Canadian diploma).

For first qualification i.e. the Bachelors he should choose 'Bachelors' under the Canadian equivalency question.

Hope that clears.

 

[vivekforbes]

He can choose the 'Two or more...' option under the Canadian equivalency question when filling the 2nd qualification (Canadian diploma).

For first qualification i.e. the Bachelors he should choose 'Bachelors' under the Canadian equivalency question.

Hope that clears.

Ah ha. I guess we are in same page.

If i am understanding correctly, he should fill as below.

Canadian PS Diploma:
Level Of education : "Tow or more"

Foreign Degree
Level Of education : "Two or more"
Level of education (Canadian equivalency) : "Bachelors degree"

Is it correct?

 

[CanadaWeCome]

Ah ha. I guess we are in same page.

If i am understanding correctly, he should fill as below.

Canadian PS Diploma:
Level Of education (Canadian equivalent) : "Tow or more"

Foreign Degree
Level Of education : "Two or more" This isn't correct. Here it should be as appropriate in the pulldown menu depending on the degree. (*I don't remember the complete list of the pull down menu*)
Level of education (Canadian equivalency) : "Bachelors degree"

Is it correct?

Yes, rest is correct.

 

[vivekforbes]

Yes, rest is correct.

I think whole section is right. This is what it says in ? mark next to level of education section, and we need to fill as is mentioned.


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[talkto_vinay]

This may be useful to many:

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/resources/tools/perm/express/refuse.asp


If there are discrepancies between the information in the applicant’s profile and the information in the applicant’s e-APR which are not the result of a legitimate change in the applicant’s circumstance, the officer should determine whether a finding of misrepresentation under section A40 applies.

 

[talkto_vinay]

Asivad sir/ mam,
I request you to please make a sticky post on how to fill "two or more Bachelors degrees" in EE application as people are struggling to fill it correctly since years now.
Thanks in advance

 

[warquezho]

Vinay

If you have only 1 ECA # for both Bachelor and Master, do it this way

Above:Master
Below:Two degrees

If you have 2 ECA # (1st ECA is assessed as Bachelor / 2nd is assessed as Masters which includes your Bachelor), create two selection

Above:Bachelor
Below:Bachelor
ECA#: ECA 1

Above:Masters
Below:Two degrees
ECA#: ECA 2

There is nothing wrong doing the above example for 2 ECA as you will only be awarded in your Masters (which is Two degrees), this only applies if you made WES assessed your Bachelor first, and then followed by your Masters. Both of us have the exact credentials, Bachelor, then continue to Masters but awarded 2 Bachelor which you can choose 2 degrees.

Funny thing is that previously, someone here who replies to you are against from choosing 2 degrees when you have 2 Bachelor ECA equivalent coming from Bachelor+Masters, saying that you should only choose Bachelor because blah blah blah!!! I guess the world is upside down now ;D ;D ;D

 

[Asivad Anac]

I guess the world is upside down now ;D ;D ;D

Not really. The overall Canadian equivalence summary in this case reads as 'Bachelors' PLUS 'Bachelors'. On previous occasions, it would just read 'Bachelors'. Both pieces of advise are built on the same underlying logic.

 

[warquezho]

Not really. The overall Canadian equivalence summary in this case reads as 'Bachelors' PLUS 'Bachelors'. On previous occasions, it would just read 'Bachelors'. Both pieces of advise are built on the same underlying logic.

Sorry, I think I am quite confused by yesterday and today's statement:

http://www.canadavisa.com/canada-immigration-discussion-board/express-entry-education-factor-two-or-more-certificate-diploma-degrees-t363533.0.html;msg4709235#msg4709235

This is just one example that I would be happy to know what was the logic before, and the logic today ;D

 

[Asivad Anac]

Sorry, I think I am quite confused by yesterday and today's statement:

http://www.canadavisa.com/canada-immigration-discussion-board/express-entry-education-factor-two-or-more-certificate-diploma-degrees-t363533.0.html;msg4709235#msg4709235

This is just one example that I would be happy to know what was the logic before, and the logic today ;D

Good catch!

In fact, WES deciding to reword their equivalency summary caused a change in understanding hence advise. Even though I'm still not sure how a Bachelors + Masters foreign education credential (probably involving 5-6 years of study) is equivalent to a Bachelors + Bachelors Canadian education credential (indicating 7 years of cumulative study!), one should be able to choose '2 or more...' option with such a summary. I stand corrected here though I don't claim to understand what WES means with such a summary.

 

[CanadaWeCome]

Sorry, I think I am quite confused by yesterday and today's statement:

http://www.canadavisa.com/canada-immigration-discussion-board/express-entry-education-factor-two-or-more-certificate-diploma-degrees-t363533.0.html;msg4709235#msg4709235

This is just one example that I would be happy to know what was the logic before, and the logic today ;D

Your wife's case is really cryptic (or maybe we are ignoramus)

If i just read your Canadian equivalence statement (at the top of the ECA report) i myself would conclude it qualifies for 'Two or more...' because it says two bachelors and each of them is greater than or equal to 3 years.

But when i continue to read on your ECA report further I see the fact that the two degrees are in the same field (nursing in this case) but nowhere it's written (at least i couldn't find) that for two or more degrees they have to be distinct degrees/diplomas in distinct fields. Although the mind says that these should qualify for two or more option, but since they are in the same field, it tantamounts to double degree. Like two post graduate degrees that aren't equivalent to one PhD (or something like that). Hence it should be taken as Bachelors only as @Asivad had mentioned earlier.

It's a dilemma. Enlighten me if you can confirm this from IRCC or any credible authority.

 

[warquezho]

Good catch!

In fact, WES deciding to reword their equivalency summary caused a change in understanding hence advise. Even though I'm still not sure how a Bachelors + Masters foreign education credential (probably involving 5-6 years of study) is equivalent to a Bachelors + Bachelors Canadian education credential (indicating 7 years of cumulative study!), one should be able to choose '2 or more...' option with such a summary. I stand corrected here though I don't claim to understand what WES means with such a summary.

Nice to hear you say that. Well, I have a theory on this but don't know how to explain it in words (maybe in some other discussion/topic). The important thing is, it can be chosen as Two degrees ;D

Your wife's case is really cryptic (or maybe we are ignoramus)

If i just read your Canadian equivalence statement (at the top of the ECA report) i myself would conclude it qualifies for 'Two or more...' because it says two bachelors and each of them is greater than or equal to 3 years.

But when i continue to read on your ECA report further I see the fact that the two degrees are in the same field (nursing in this case) but nowhere it's written (at least i couldn't find) that for two or more degrees they have to be distinct degrees/diplomas in distinct fields. Although the mind says that these should qualify for two or more option, but since they are in the same field, it tantamounts to double degree. Like two post graduate degrees that aren't equivalent to one PhD (or something like that). Hence it should be taken as Bachelors only as @Asivad had mentioned earlier.

It's a dilemma. Enlighten me if you can confirm this from IRCC or any credible authority.

Here is another friend of your's Asivad, maybe you can enlighten him more. As I said I have a theory for this, but not in the mood to explain it today, maybe some other day