Question about Unit Group 2173 to satisfy Skill Level A (CIC website)

[iryu]

Hi all,

May I ask a quick question regarding my situation?

I check my eligibility for Canada PR from this website:
http://www.cic.gc.ca/

My score is 74, however, I have a confusion regarding the "Skill Level A" requirement in eligibility tool in CIC website in this link:
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/immigrate/skilled/tool/index.asp

My skills match NOC category Unit Group 2173:
http://www5.hrsdc.gc.ca/NOC/English/NOC/2006/Profile.aspx?val=2&val1=2173

But in CIC website, I only see "Computer and Information Systems Manager".

1. So, can my skills/working experiences under NOC Unit Group #2173 satisfy "Computer and Information Systems Manager"?

2. Is it better to apply directly, or using lawyer?

Many thanks.
Iryu

 

[Leon]

You have to find the 0213 manager in the NOC and read the duties. If your duties are similar and match the duties of a manager, then you can apply under 0213 manager. If not, then you will need to have a job offer (AEO) to apply.

 

[iryu]

You have to find the 0213 manager in the NOC and read the duties. If your duties are similar and match the duties of a manager, then you can apply under 0213 manager. If not, then you will need to have a job offer (AEO) to apply.

Thanks Leon. Since I don't have any managerial experience, it seems that I need to have an AEO first.

How's the process/steps? Once I got an offer, how long does it take to get the PR? Will the company be willing to wait?

 

[Leon]

You need to get a job offer, the employer applies for the AEO, sends it to you and you use it to apply for immigration. If it turns out by the time you get PR that the company does not have a job for you anymore, you will have PR and can go work somewhere else.

 

[iryu]

Thank you so much, Leon.

Btw, how long normally does it take to get the PR using AEO?
Also, is it better (faster) to use lawyer instead applying by myself?

 

[Leon]

Immigration hopes that these applications will only take 6-12 months but nobody knows for sure yet, not enough time since they changed the rules.

It is not faster if you use a lawyer, just costs more

 

[iryu]

Wow, for case with AEO, 6 - 12 months is such a long time, isn't it? I don't think there's any employer who's willing to wait that long. Or is there?

It seems that I need to forget my dream to move to Canada.. until I have some managerial experiences.

 

[Leon]

Even when applying for a work permit, employers sometimes have to wait that long. If they need the person, they might as well do it. There is no guarantee for them that somebody qualified will show up in the next 6 to 12 months and even if they did, the employer takes no risk. Once you get PR, he doesn't actually have to hire you if he doesn't have an opening for you anymore.

 

[iryu]

Hi Leon,

Thanks for your answer. It made me reconsider my dream

I saw your reply to Tim, about Quebec (don't need AEO for Quebec). But we need to be able to speak French to work in Quebec?

Do you know any good websites to look for a job in Canada?
Any suggestion, in what city is good for raising kids?

 

[Leon]

Quebec has it's own laws on French. If you want to be considered for skilled worker there, you need to speak French and they will send your kids to French schools.

Somebody once recommended this website: http://www.eluta.ca/ to me for job search. You can also find a lot of jobs on Canada job bank at http://www.jobbank.gc.ca/srch_eng.aspx?OfferpPage=50

This website also has a job search tool, see http://www.canadavisa.com/career_zone/canadian-immigration-job-search.htm

You can find a good neighbourhood to raise kids anywhere in Canada. Most cities have good and bad neighbourhoods. When you get a job offer and go to the city to look for a place to live, you need to look at the shape of the neighbourhood, ask the people who live there, ask people with kids if the school there is good, ask the people at the gas station if they ever get robbed etc.