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TSFAMR

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Hello Members,

I need some advices / comments on my scenario

We (3 applicants) had applied for "URGENT" PRC renewal in the month of October 2015 (signed the application on September 27, 2015) through an agency and CIC acknowledged having received the application on October 05 2015. Upto September 27, 2015 (i had been physically present in Canada for 729 and my spouse and kid had completed 724 days which is a calculation mistake on "agency" part) and in the month of November 2015, we received QR requesting for additional documents proving RO met.

We submitted all the requested documents plus I claimed 40 days stay outside Canada working for a Canadian Corporation (We are self employed with a legally registered Corporation in the Canada having 50% shares each as Directors). These documents were sent to CIC in December again with an "URGENT" (proof of travel included) and did not hear back since then.

As requested "URGENT", I had to travel on Business trip to the UAE (We supply Engineering Equipment / Parts to UAE customers) and applied for PRTD immediately after landing here in the Abu Dhabi on January 10, 2016 and still waiting for the TD.

After going through so many comments on this Forum, I am getting paranoid. Kindly advise what are my chances of getting PRTD as I have genuinely spent time in Canada and sincerely want to go back to my family.

Also advise what is the processing time for PRTD from Abu Dhabi as VFS says it takes minimum 15 working days and my wife googled and found out somewhere on CIC website it takes 6 weeks!!!

Is approval of PRTD linked with the decision on PRC renewal and granting TD will be after the renewal only of PRC only?

What is the processing time of PRC renewal for the applicants sent with the QR? Is it 180 days as mentioned on CIC website or it takes longer for the applicants in "second review" category?

My family is living in Canada
We had booked a condo in 2010 when we first landed in Canada, bought our house in 2011 (mortgaged),
Have been paying all the taxes on personal income since 2010 and on corporation income since 2011
Having all the utility bills, toll route invoices, insurance papers etc. submitted to CIC as supporting documents in response to QR (it looks like the "Agency / "Agent" did not submit all the provided documents to CIC at first place and we ended up with QR)
Please advise whether these ties / proofs are considered when making any decision for PRC renewal or PRTD?

Thanks for the help
TSFAMR
 
TSFAMR said:
Hello Members,

I need some advices / comments on my scenario

We (3 applicants) had applied for "URGENT" PRC renewal in the month of October 2015 (signed the application on September 27, 2015) through an agency and CIC acknowledged having received the application on October 05 2015. Upto September 27, 2015 (i had been physically present in Canada for 729 and my spouse and kid had completed 724 days which is a calculation mistake on "agency" part) and in the month of November 2015, we received QR requesting for additional documents proving RO met.

We submitted all the requested documents plus I claimed 40 days stay outside Canada working for a Canadian Corporation (We are self employed with a legally registered Corporation in the Canada having 50% shares each as Directors). These documents were sent to CIC in December again with an "URGENT" (proof of travel included) and did not hear back since then.

As requested "URGENT", I had to travel on Business trip to the UAE (We supply Engineering Equipment / Parts to UAE customers) and applied for PRTD immediately after landing here in the Abu Dhabi on January 10, 2016 and still waiting for the TD.

After going through so many comments on this Forum, I am getting paranoid. Kindly advise what are my chances of getting PRTD as I have genuinely spent time in Canada and sincerely want to go back to my family.

Also advise what is the processing time for PRTD from Abu Dhabi as VFS says it takes minimum 15 working days and my wife googled and found out somewhere on CIC website it takes 6 weeks!!!

Is approval of PRTD linked with the decision on PRC renewal and granting TD will be after the renewal only of PRC only?

What is the processing time of PRC renewal for the applicants sent with the QR? Is it 180 days as mentioned on CIC website or it takes longer for the applicants in "second review" category?

My family is living in Canada
We had booked a condo in 2010 when we first landed in Canada, bought our house in 2011 (mortgaged),
Have been paying all the taxes on personal income since 2010 and on corporation income since 2011
Having all the utility bills, toll route invoices, insurance papers etc. submitted to CIC as supporting documents in response to QR (it looks like the "Agency / "Agent" did not submit all the provided documents to CIC at first place and we ended up with QR)
Please advise whether these ties / proofs are considered when making any decision for PRC renewal or PRTD?

Thanks for the help
TSFAMR
The 40 days that you claimed will not be accepted by CIC as part of the residency obligation requirements. It's not even close to being covered by the exemption. This may well be part of the reasons that your application is stalled. The PRTD assessment runs in parallel with the PR card renewal application, with the results that either of the residency obligation examinations could result in the revocation of your PR status, after the completion of due process.
 
TSFAMR said:
(i had been physically present in Canada for 729 and my spouse and kid had completed 724 days which is a calculation mistake on "agency" part)

We submitted all the requested documents plus I claimed 40 days stay outside Canada working for a Canadian Corporation (We are self employed with a legally registered Corporation in the Canada having 50% shares each as Directors).

As Zardoz said, you definitely don't qualify for the exemption of working for a Canadian company abroad. Even if you did, you are still short of the 730 days required. Don't expect any speedy resolution of your issue as I'm sure CIC will take their time to review things and will likely end up rejecting the application.
 
I am still waiting for my PR card. I still have a job in Dubai. If I go back to Dubai (now I am in MontreAl) will I be able to get PRTD? Is PRTD only for special reasons? What if I am coming back to Dubai because I have not resigned? Will I be rejected for PRTD?
 
TSFAMR said:
After going through so many comments on this Forum, I am getting paranoid. Kindly advise what are my chances of getting PRTD as I have genuinely spent time in Canada and sincerely want to go back to my family.

Also advise what is the processing time for PRTD from Abu Dhabi as VFS says it takes minimum 15 working days and my wife googled and found out somewhere on CIC website it takes 6 weeks!!!

Is approval of PRTD linked with the decision on PRC renewal and granting TD will be after the renewal only of PRC only?

What is the processing time of PRC renewal for the applicants sent with the QR? Is it 180 days as mentioned on CIC website or it takes longer for the applicants in "second review" category?

My family is living in Canada
We had booked a condo in 2010 when we first landed in Canada, bought our house in 2011 (mortgaged),
Have been paying all the taxes on personal income since 2010 and on corporation income since 2011
Having all the utility bills, toll route invoices, insurance papers etc. submitted to CIC as supporting documents in response to QR (it looks like the "Agency / "Agent" did not submit all the provided documents to CIC at first place and we ended up with QR)
Please advise whether these ties / proofs are considered when making any decision for PRC renewal or PRTD?

Thanks for the help
TSFAMR

It does not matter how many houses you own or how much tax you pay in Canada. That still does not exempt you from fulfilling the residency obligation. As said, your 40 days will not be counted. Your wife and children don't meet the RO either, 724 does not add up to 730.

Best you all can do is withdraw your PR card application and hope they accept your withdrawal. That way, at least your family can keep their PR status by continuing to stay in Canada until they meet the RO. Be aware that they must have 730 days in the past 5 years before they try to apply for a PR card renewal again. Time spent in Canada more than 5 years ago will not be counted.

As for the TD, they should actually give it to you if you met the RO at the point you applied for it. If not, you could end up losing your PR.

However, if your wife is still in Canada and she waits until she meets the RO, she could apply to sponsor you. This will however take time. She should under no circumstances apply to sponsor you until she meets the RO herself. Otherwise, she'll just be asking immigration again to investigate her own PR status which is the same situation you are in now with your open PR card application.

Another thing you could do in order to return to Canada would be to apply for a visit visa. However, you wont get one unless you officially lose your PR first.
 
Dear All,

Thank you for taking time and replying.

I just want to clarify that I had already spent 729 days in the Canada within last 5 years (from September 27, 2010 to September 27, 2015 and I had also lived for another 52 days from June 2010 to September 2010 which they will not take into consideration). If I calculate from September 27, 2010, I am short of one day only to make it 730 days that why I claimed 40 days outside Canada. They also received my application on October 05, 2015 and if they consider my application from October 05, 2015, all of us in the family completes 730 days!!!!

When I applied for PRTD in Abu Dhabi, I had already completed more than 730 days in Canada within last 5 years so would I still not get PRTD to return back to Canada?

Thanks for the reply

Thanks
TSFAMR
 
Leon,

Your reply atleast gives me some hope to get PRTD and I am keeping my fingers and toes crossed.

What do you think do I have really good chances to get TD, just to let you know my mathematics:

I applied for PRTD on Jan 10, 2016 and I was physically present in the Canada till January 06, 2016 which makes my presence in Canada upto 830 days within last 5 years (January 06, 2011 to January 06, 2016) and I have submitted all the documents along with PRTD application

How long it normally takes to get TD for a case like mine

Thanks for your reply.
TSFAMR
 
TSFAMR said:
Leon,

Your reply atleast gives me some hope to get PRTD and I am keeping my fingers and toes crossed.

What do you think do I have really good chances to get TD, just to let you know my mathematics:

I applied for PRTD on Jan 10, 2016 and I was physically present in the Canada till January 06, 2016 which makes my presence in Canada upto 830 days within last 5 years (January 06, 2011 to January 06, 2016) and I have submitted all the documents along with PRTD application

How long it normally takes to get TD for a case like mine

Thanks for your reply.
TSFAMR

If you have enough days in Canada on your TD application, you should get it. However, TD can often take some time. In some visa offices it can easily take 6 weeks or more. If you have a US visa or can get one, you can enter the US and cross over to Canada by land.

As for your PR renewal application, they are supposed to go from the date that they receive the application so if they received it on October 5th 2015, they will look at the period from October 6th 2010. If you meet the RO for that period, you may be ok. However, your PR renewal has now gone into secondary review and will take a long time for the local office to deal with that as the local offices are often overworked.