Proof of communication (skype, facebook, msn, etc)

[maham noor]

how to save skype history???

 

[jstnmlr]

I exported my phone logs to excel and sorted them so only my wife my calls & texts were on there it was still 50 some pages so I printed them to 6 pages to a sheet front and back to save on bulk. We opted not to send skype because those were much more personal than we wanted to share and we often video chatted anyway. We also included copies of cards and letters.

To answer the question above, there is a setting in skype that allows you to log. If it's selected then they are buried somewhere in your computer a quick google search will show you where.

 

[Mirianne]

Is necessary to put the cards that we send each other the copy or the original? how we can put our calls? how make that? our phone were prepaid in my country (where we live together the most time of our relationship) so, no record, and when he was in canada and i in my country (2 or 3 months each year) we used prepaid cards so, again, no record, i have some prepaid cards papers, but the last year only (we have almost 5 years of relationship) and the sms is the same thing...
we can use only our mails, facebook messages, the prepaids cards that i have, (he have only 1 or 2 of the last year only)
he don't like so much the tecnology so, we don't use a lot these things, more the calls... but we don't have any register... is enough with the things that we have?
I hope you can help us and thanks in advance!

 

[dangerJones]

how to save skype history???

Saving chat history in Skype is pretty hard to do easily. After reading through a number of forums, the best way seems to be to display old messages (at the top of a conversation list--it should read "Show messages from:" and give intervals going back to 6 months). Once you've selected older messages, simply Select All and copy them into your favourite word processor and save the file. I've read that some people have created utility programs to search further back into your Skype records and save them as HTML, but I'm not sure if they work with newer versions of Skype.

Other IM software (MSN, Yahoo, etc) generally make it easier to export chat logs. Unfortunately, Skype really stands out in its inability to handle this seemingly basic functionality.

Conversely, printing records of Skype calls or SMS is easy: you can find them by signing into skype.com and selecting "View call history" inside the "Call phones" tab of your account screen, or on "View text message history" inside the "Send SMS" tab.

 

[dangerJones]

Is necessary to put the cards that we send each other the copy or the original? how we can put our calls? how make that? our phone were prepaid in my country (where we live together the most time of our relationship) so, no record, and when he was in canada and i in my country (2 or 3 months each year) we used prepaid cards so, again, no record, i have some prepaid cards papers, but the last year only (we have almost 5 years of relationship) and the sms is the same thing...
we can use only our mails, facebook messages, the prepaids cards that i have, (he have only 1 or 2 of the last year only)
he don't like so much the tecnology so, we don't use a lot these things, more the calls... but we don't have any register... is enough with the things that we have?
I hope you can help us and thanks in advance!

Copies vs. Originals: The sponsor checklist (IMM5491) says that forms must be sent as originals and supporting documents may be sent as copies, unless otherwise indicated. The immigrant's checklist we used (IMM3906, for SE Asia) says: "Send originals of the immigration forms (items 1 to 5 below) and police certificates. Send photocopies of all other documents, unless instructed otherwise." I believe I double-checked this with the CIC call centre and they confirmed that we can send our evidence as copies.

Prepaid call records: If you're missing records, then submit what you have. For instance, while you may not be able to get an itemized list of all your calls, you can submit receipts for the calling cards, if you still have them. (Word to the wise: save ALL your receipts!) If you have papers/receipts for the more recent phone cards, use those. It'll surely be easier to establish your case if you have more records, so if there's any way that you can get them, then get them. If you have emails or regular postal mail, then use more of those to make up for the gap in the phone records.

The important thing is to show that you were communicating continuously throughout your relationship. If there are gaps, explain them when writing your appendix to the forms. Submitting copies of everything you have, and explaining how what you've submitted should make up for the gaps, should make it easier for the VO to gain trust in you and to accept your case.

 

[Ichiro]

Great advice.

The key thing is to organize what you currently have. Be it skype logs, email, call logs and even phone card purchases.

Copies vs. Originals: The sponsor checklist (IMM5491) says that forms must be sent as originals and supporting documents may be sent as copies, unless otherwise indicated. The immigrant's checklist I used (IMM3906, for SE Asia) says: "Send originals of the immigration forms (items 1 to 5 below) and police certificates. Send photocopies of all other documents, unless instructed otherwise." I believe I double-checked this with the CIC call centre and they confirmed that we can send our evidence as copies.

Prepaid call records: If you're missing records, then submit what you have. For instance, while you may not be able to get an itemized list of all your calls, you can submit receipts for the calling cards, if you still have them. (Word to the wise: save ALL your receipts!) If you have papers/receipts for the more recent phone cards, use those. It'll surely be easier to establish your case if you have more records, so if there's any way that you can get them, then get them. If you have emails or regular postal mail, then use more of those to make up for the gap in the phone records.

The important thing is to show that you were communicating continuously throughout your relationship. If there are gaps, explain them when writing your appendix to the forms. Submitting copies of everything you have, and explaining how what you've submitted should make up for the gaps, should make it easier for the VO to gain trust in you and to accept your case.

 

[Mirianne]

Copies vs. Originals: The sponsor checklist (IMM5491) says that forms must be sent as originals and supporting documents may be sent as copies, unless otherwise indicated. The immigrant's checklist we used (IMM3906, for SE Asia) says: "Send originals of the immigration forms (items 1 to 5 below) and police certificates. Send photocopies of all other documents, unless instructed otherwise." I believe I double-checked this with the CIC call centre and they confirmed that we can send our evidence as copies.

Prepaid call records: If you're missing records, then submit what you have. For instance, while you may not be able to get an itemized list of all your calls, you can submit receipts for the calling cards, if you still have them. (Word to the wise: save ALL your receipts!) If you have papers/receipts for the more recent phone cards, use those. It'll surely be easier to establish your case if you have more records, so if there's any way that you can get them, then get them. If you have emails or regular postal mail, then use more of those to make up for the gap in the phone records.


Thanks a lot for the response... we have a lot of e-mail, letters, but things like records of calls and sms, no... i also have my old cellphone where had a lot of short messages (we live together so don't use so much the cellphones) and when we start our relationship never thinks in the sponsorship, so don't take so much proof... photos we have a lot too... until from the beginning... and e-mails are the only things that we have from beginning... my other old phone is in my country now, and there we have a lot of messages too... but i think is impossible to take them... our cellphones was prepaid
Do you think is enough all this? phone cards, letters, e-mails, i also take some conversations from msn and put in a word document, is right?
Sorry for all the questions but we now start to send ours papers, first my extension visa and after the sponsorship...
thanks again for the help
The important thing is to show that you were communicating continuously throughout your relationship. If there are gaps, explain them when writing your appendix to the forms. Submitting copies of everything you have, and explaining how what you've submitted should make up for the gaps, should make it easier for the VO to gain trust in you and to accept your case.

 

[dangerJones]

Thanks a lot for the response... we have a lot of e-mail, letters, but things like records of calls and sms, no... i also have my old cellphone where had a lot of short messages (we live together so don't use so much the cellphones) and when we start our relationship never thinks in the sponsorship, so don't take so much proof... photos we have a lot too... until from the beginning... and e-mails are the only things that we have from beginning... my other old phone is in my country now, and there we have a lot of messages too... but i think is impossible to take them... our cellphones was prepaid Sad
Do you think is enough all this? phone cards, letters, e-mails, i also take some conversations from msn and put in a word document, is right?
Sorry for all the questions but we now start to send ours papers, first my extension visa and after the sponsorship...
thanks again for the help

It sounds good, I think. When considering the need for evidence, think of your relationship as a timeline; each part of that timeline needs to have something (or several somethings) supporting it, some proof that your relationship is "genuine and continuing". You might want to print out everything you might use, and arrange it all chronologically, from earliest to latest. That way you'll be better able to organize all your evidence. In our case, we tracked all of our pieces of evidence in an Excel spreadsheet, with dates, descriptions, and other information, and used that to determine what to send--and what parts of our relationship needed more evidence to support it.

Regarding specifics, if emails and photos make up the bulk of your relationship evidence at the beginning, then for sure, use lots of those at the beginning of your timeline. Then, as you progress further, start adding the other things that you have. If you have messages on your old cellphone, you could submit a sample of some of them on a sheet of paper, just to let the VO know that you did send them. Copies of phone card receipts, letters, postcards, chat logs, and so on, are all great evidence. Just make sure that all the significant parts of your relationship timeline are covered by some kind of evidence, and you should be fine.

Note that we've only discussed communications here; of course, you'll want to have separate evidence for major evidence such as travel (boarding passes, passport stamps), engagement and wedding ceremonies (contracts for the use of halls or catering; receipts for dresses, clothes, cake, decorations, and so on), etc. And of course lots of photos for everything!

 

[dangerJones]

FYI, I've started a separate thread to explain a little about the method we used to organize all our evidence, as I mentioned in the post above. I figured it's pretty relevant to this thread

http://www.canadavisa.com/canada-immigration-discussion-board/organizing-relationship-evidence-t87784.0.html