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maruti81

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Dear friends,
I have two questions. I am currently working in USA and applied for Canada PR. I am optimistic about my application. I have 2 questions.

I have nt included my dad as a part of the application but planning to include soon.
1. How long will it take to process the sponsorship application for my dad, if I apply once after landing in Canada?
2. I am planning to marry someone from India soon. How long will it take to process the sponsorship application for my spouse, if I apply after I landed in Canada, then got married in India?

Thank you in advance for your answers.
God bless.
 
1. It is not possible to include your dad as a part of your application even if you wanted to. In order to sponsor him later, you will need to show that you have enough income to support him. In most cases, that means that you first need to have a job in Canada and possibly work for a year before you can prove your income to immigration. If you are already married and sponsoring your wife at this point, you will have to make enough money to support her as well. According to http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/times/canada/process-in.asp#sponsorship it right now takes 32 months to approve you as a sponsor for your dad. After that, the application is sent to India and takes on average another 16 months there, see http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/times/international/08-fc-parents.asp#asia Your dad will have to have a medical. If he is considered to cause excess demand on Canadian healthcare, he may be refused.

2. To sponsor a wife, it takes 35 days to approve you as a sponsor, see http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/times/canada/process-in.asp#sponsorship and after that it takes an average of 3 months in India, see http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/times/international/05-fc-spouses.asp#asia
Be advised that if you are about to get married right now, you might be better off doing it before you apply for your immigration or doing it while you apply and apply to add your spouse to your file before you land as a PR. If you marry very soon after getting PR, immigration may ask why you did not do it before so you could apply together. You may have to prove that you did not live with your wife so that you did not qualify as a common law couple. The reason for this is that if you apply with your wife initially, you both have a medical and if you have serious problems, you are both denied. However, if you apply as a single and sponsor a wife later, she is exempt from certain requirements of the medical, mainly the excess demand clause which is why immigration may get suspicious if somebody gets their PR, then goes and gets married right away and starts sponsorship of spouse.
 
Leon said:
1. It is not possible to include your dad as a part of your application even if you wanted to. In order to sponsor him later, you will need to show that you have enough income to support him. In most cases, that means that you first need to have a job in Canada and possibly work for a year before you can prove your income to immigration. If you are already married and sponsoring your wife at this point, you will have to make enough money to support her as well. According to http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/times/canada/process-in.asp#sponsorship it right now takes 32 months to approve you as a sponsor for your dad. After that, the application is sent to India and takes on average another 16 months there, see http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/times/international/08-fc-parents.asp#asia Your dad will have to have a medical. If he is considered to cause excess demand on Canadian healthcare, he may be refused.

2. To sponsor a wife, it takes 35 days to approve you as a sponsor, see http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/times/canada/process-in.asp#sponsorship and after that it takes an average of 3 months in India, see http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/times/international/05-fc-spouses.asp#asia
Be advised that if you are about to get married right now, you might be better off doing it before you apply for your immigration or doing it while you apply and apply to add your spouse to your file before you land as a PR. If you marry very soon after getting PR, immigration may ask why you did not do it before so you could apply together. You may have to prove that you did not live with your wife so that you did not qualify as a common law couple. The reason for this is that if you apply with your wife initially, you both have a medical and if you have serious problems, you are both denied. However, if you apply as a single and sponsor a wife later, she is exempt from certain requirements of the medical, mainly the excess demand clause which is why immigration may get suspicious if somebody gets their PR, then goes and gets married right away and starts sponsorship of spouse.
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Hi Leon,
Thank you very much for taking your time in answering my questions to the detail.

I see that if I have to sponsor spouse after landing in Canada as PR, I will have to satisfy the requirement of covering her basic requirements for 3 years. Does that include any specific funds value that I need to show in my bank statement while applying?
OR a proof that I have a job of certain income? If so, what is the amount of income?

Somewhere I remembered reading that for sponsoring spouse, there are no income requirements. I may be wrong though.

Also, if I don't want to live separately from my spouse while the application is in process, can I travel back to India or if I want to be in Canada, can I apply a student, visitor or work visa for my spouse?

Thanks for your help and best regards.
 
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maruti81 said:
Leon said:
1. It is not possible to include your dad as a part of your application even if you wanted to. In order to sponsor him later, you will need to show that you have enough income to support him. In most cases, that means that you first need to have a job in Canada and possibly work for a year before you can prove your income to immigration. If you are already married and sponsoring your wife at this point, you will have to make enough money to support her as well. According to http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/times/canada/process-in.asp#sponsorship it right now takes 32 months to approve you as a sponsor for your dad. After that, the application is sent to India and takes on average another 16 months there, see http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/times/international/08-fc-parents.asp#asia Your dad will have to have a medical. If he is considered to cause excess demand on Canadian healthcare, he may be refused.

2. To sponsor a wife, it takes 35 days to approve you as a sponsor, see http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/times/canada/process-in.asp#sponsorship and after that it takes an average of 3 months in India, see http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/times/international/05-fc-spouses.asp#asia
Be advised that if you are about to get married right now, you might be better off doing it before you apply for your immigration or doing it while you apply and apply to add your spouse to your file before you land as a PR. If you marry very soon after getting PR, immigration may ask why you did not do it before so you could apply together. You may have to prove that you did not live with your wife so that you did not qualify as a common law couple. The reason for this is that if you apply with your wife initially, you both have a medical and if you have serious problems, you are both denied. However, if you apply as a single and sponsor a wife later, she is exempt from certain requirements of the medical, mainly the excess demand clause which is why immigration may get suspicious if somebody gets their PR, then goes and gets married right away and starts sponsorship of spouse.
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Hi Leon,
Thank you very much for taking your time in answering my questions to the detail.

I see that if I have to sponsor spouse after landing in Canada as PR, I will have to satisfy the requirement of covering her basic requirements for 3 years. Does that include any specific funds value that I need to show in my bank statement while applying?
OR a proof that I have a job of certain income? If so, what is the amount of income?

Somewhere I remembered reading that for sponsoring spouse, there are no income requirements. I may be wrong though.

Also, if I don't want to live separately from my spouse while the application is in process, can I travel back to India or if I want to be in Canada, can I apply a student, visitor or work visa for my spouse?

Thanks for your help and best regards.
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1. You don't require an income to sponsor a spouse, you just can't be on public assistance. (except for disability)
2. No, as a PR you have to remain in Canada during the sponsorship.
3. It is extremely unlikely that she would be issued any sort of visitor admission with a PR application in progress.

PMM
 
PMM said:
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Hi Leon,
Thank you very much for taking your time in answering my questions to the detail.

I see that if I have to sponsor spouse after landing in Canada as PR, I will have to satisfy the requirement of covering her basic requirements for 3 years. Does that include any specific funds value that I need to show in my bank statement while applying?
OR a proof that I have a job of certain income? If so, what is the amount of income?

Somewhere I remembered reading that for sponsoring spouse, there are no income requirements. I may be wrong though.

Also, if I don't want to live separately from my spouse while the application is in process, can I travel back to India or if I want to be in Canada, can I apply a student, visitor or work visa for my spouse?

Thanks for your help and best regards.


1. You don't require an income to sponsor a spouse, you just can't be on public assistance. (except for disability)
2. No, as a PR you have to remain in Canada during the sponsorship.
3. It is extremely unlikely that she would be issued any sort of visitor admission with a PR application in progress.

PMM
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Hi,
Thanks again for your responses to my questions.
As for the 2nd point that you mentioned:
It seems as a PR, I have to remain to Canada if I want to sponsor my spouse. I am currently working with my employer near Detroit in USA. I recently got my PR and plan to land and live in Windsor, Ontario. Then I plan to drive from Windsor to Detroit for my job. My job is a traveling one where I have to travel to my clients at various states in USA. So I can be in Canada only for the weekends. Will this be a good proof enough that I am 'living' in Canada?

Thank you.
 
If your job involves a lot of travel but you are based in Canada and have a home where you come to stay on the weekends, I guess it can be said that you are residing in Canada. However, you should be watchful of your PR status if you plan on doing this for long term because you need at least 730 days in Canada in a 5 year period. Staying in Canada only on the weekends gets you 3 days a week, that's 780 days over 5 years so that is ok but if there are weekends that you stay in the US as well or vacations you take in the US or India, those will count against you too.

You should keep good records of your travels after you land as a PR because you will need them when you apply to renew your PR card in 5 years time.
 
Leon said:
If your job involves a lot of travel but you are based in Canada and have a home where you come to stay on the weekends, I guess it can be said that you are residing in Canada. However, you should be watchful of your PR status if you plan on doing this for long term because you need at least 730 days in Canada in a 5 year period. Staying in Canada only on the weekends gets you 3 days a week, that's 780 days over 5 years so that is ok but if there are weekends that you stay in the US as well or vacations you take in the US or India, those will count against you too.

You should keep good records of your travels after you land as a PR because you will need them when you apply to renew your PR card in 5 years time.
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Dear Leon,
I sincerely appreciate your helpful response(s). Thank you.

Will a PR be scanned at the border entry/exit to keep the track of number of days in Canada? Just checking if a PR card will have this feature.

- I am guessing that I will be issued/collected many I-94s from US immigration, if I enter and leave USA so frequently. Am I right?
- What should I chose my landing path if I plan to land in Windsor? Ambassador bridge or Detroit-Windsor tunnel? What is the difference?
- Which one should I chose for my frequent traveling to Detroit/Windsor for my job, if I want to save time waiting at the border during traveling?

Thank you.
 
When you are arriving by car, sometimes they will look at your papers and as what I am told, sometimes they don't. They don't check you when you are leaving as far as I know, only on the US side when you enter. Canada shares information with the US. They might therefore not have a complete history of your coming and going but the problem with trying to fudge some dates later is that you don't know what they know and if your information contradicts with theirs, they can ask you to prove that you were in Canada on the dates you say you were and that can be hard to do.
 
Leon said:
When you are arriving by car, sometimes they will look at your papers and as what I am told, sometimes they don't. They don't check you when you are leaving as far as I know, only on the US side when you enter. Canada shares information with the US. They might therefore not have a complete history of your coming and going but the problem with trying to fudge some dates later is that you don't know what they know and if your information contradicts with theirs, they can ask you to prove that you were in Canada on the dates you say you were and that can be hard to do.
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Thank you Leon for the information. I got what you are saying. I was just trying to understand the process of how PR card works while entry/exit into/from Canada reg. my first question.
 
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