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Jadran1

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Last one; I do not really understand the implications of having a business, an incorporated one, in Canada and not being resident. I am still paying in on CPP, and even have taxes to pay. It seems to be required that 25% of the owners of a company are resident in Canada. Is any of the honorable forum members knowledgeable on this subject?
I have a fair amount of money in the business account ( sale of my truck) that I use to pay myself a monthly salary, something I need if I am to apply for the Philippino Permanent Residence for old retired white guys ( although that program is on hold at the moment). I also own a house in Canada that is rented out, money I also need to be able to live here. What are the tax consequences ?
 

canuck78

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Last one; I do not really understand the implications of having a business, an incorporated one, in Canada and not being resident. I am still paying in on CPP, and even have taxes to pay. It seems to be required that 25% of the owners of a company are resident in Canada. Is any of the honorable forum members knowledgeable on this subject?
I have a fair amount of money in the business account ( sale of my truck) that I use to pay myself a monthly salary, something I need if I am to apply for the Philippino Permanent Residence for old retired white guys ( although that program is on hold at the moment). I also own a house in Canada that is rented out, money I also need to be able to live here. What are the tax consequences ?
You need to contact CRA to figure out if you are/have been a tax resident. If you business still has active accounts there are business taxes.
 

jddd

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Oct 1, 2017
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Hello again.

On the questions about Adobe anD forms: I was trying to see the various required forms for renewal of the PR card, and the application for a PRTD. None will open.
Jddd, I am in Southern Leyte , Padre Burgos to be exact. The local computer cafe has closed, and if you don't believe me when I say that the few people here who have ( mainly borrowed from employers) laptops have Chromebooks I can't help it. This is a poor province; you're not going to buy a desktop on 9000 or less peso salary per month, also because hardware is simply expensive.
I do find it strange that IRCC, knowing about the Adobe on Chromebook- issues, refuses to act. Worse even, on their website they give outdated and therefore false information about it. 'Use another computer', is the best they could tell me when I asked for help.
I was originally from the Philippines so am very familiar.This is also the reason I asked where you were exactly because I did not understand why you said no one has Windows
computers there since internet cafes are everywhere. I have been to Southern Leyte because of the beautiful beaches and I know that the beach resorts have Windows computers. Have you tried going into a resort, if open, and asking if you can pay to use their computer? Peters Dive Resort was where I stayed when I went.

Anyway, this may be moot since you seem to be non-compliant to RO by 14 months per your posts.
 

armoured

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On my return; I am thinking that ship has sailed. I almost certainly don't have enough days; if I return now, it will take some 14 months before I am at the required 730 days treshhold. I will be trucking again; every thorough inspection on the road will be a risk, and I won't be able to do crossborder work, which is the vast majority of what my employer does.
Also, ideally I wanted to work in Canada in the summer and be in the Philippines in winter. That of course won't work either.
Lastly, the entry restrictions ( together with air fare prices, which have more than doubled) are making a return prohibitively expensive and difficult. And I am serious about the Covid- risk: I really do not fancy air travel at this moment, something even IRCC will agree with I guess.
Understand your reasoning and the limitations you believe you can't live with (esp since employment and covid risk).

I do not know and did not intend to imply that there are no other options; I was emphasizing that if retaining PR status was a key goal, returning before PR card expiry is the best and most certain way. (With reasonably good chances of success given the covid-related delays).

There are, I understand, potentially other paths - such as applying for PRTD on H&C grounds after your card has expired. In some cases, it seems this can result in a PRTD being issued and then a new PR card on return. However, I think this is a much more uncertain process and may not be workable - I just don't know.

Since it seems you may need to get legal advice on your financial matters, you may consider legal help on the immigration/permanent residency side. But again, don't know if that is realistic, just providing a wee bit of info for you to consider. Of course if you've decided not worth it and you're okay with the other path you've chosen, that's your choice.
 
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Jadran1

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I was originally from the Philippines so am very familiar.This is also the reason I asked where you were exactly because I did not understand why you said no one has Windows
computers there since internet cafes are everywhere. I have been to Southern Leyte because of the beautiful beaches and I know that the beach resorts have Windows computers. Have you tried going into a resort, if open, and asking if you can pay to use their computer? Peters Dive Resort was where I stayed when I went.

Anyway, this may be moot since you seem to be non-compliant to RO by 14 months per your posts.
I was originally from the Philippines so am very familiar.This is also the reason I asked where you were exactly because I did not understand why you said no one has Windows
computers there since internet cafes are everywhere. I have been to Southern Leyte because of the beautiful beaches and I know that the beach resorts have Windows computers. Have you tried going into a resort, if open, and asking if you can pay to use their computer? Peters Dive Resort was where I stayed when I went.

Anyway, this may be moot since you seem to be non-compliant to RO by 14 months per your posts.
I had not thought about the resorts Good idea, thank you.
 

Jadran1

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Feb 21, 2021
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Understand your reasoning and the limitations you believe you can't live with (esp since employment and covid risk).

I do not know and did not intend to imply that there are no other options; I was emphasizing that if retaining PR status was a key goal, returning before PR card expiry is the best and most certain way. (With reasonably good chances of success given the covid-related delays).

There are, I understand, potentially other paths - such as applying for PRTD on H&C grounds after your card has expired. In some cases, it seems this can result in a PRTD being issued and then a new PR card on return. However, I think this is a much more uncertain process and may not be workable - I just don't know.

Since it seems you may need to get legal advice on your financial matters, you may consider legal help on the immigration/permanent residency side. But again, don't know if that is realistic, just providing a wee bit of info for you to consider. Of course if you've decided not worth it and you're okay with the other path you've chosen, that's your choice.
 

Jadran1

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Feb 21, 2021
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Like I wrote before, I do appreciate the effort to suggest me solutions.
I have put in a request with USA customs, to get my travel history for 2016; only when I have that I will really know where I stand.
My PR card expires March 28, I still have a little bit of time. Since the mandatory 3 hotel- quarantine days have created nothing but chaos I hope that will have disappeared by the end of the month ( but I could of course always fly to Seattle and take a bus to Vancouver...)

For the moment, my plan is to somehow explain my situation to IRCC. I will have to inform them about my whereabouts anyway, and also CRA. They seem to have a questionnaire to determine the legal status of Canadians living abroad. Unfortunately my accountant has no clue.
The only thing that I would like help with, as at the start of this thread really, is an address at IRCC where I could send my explanation, other than their webmail that seems to go unmonitored.
There seem to be concerns that Canada isn't going to meet its immigration targets; also, new PR- holders seem to be faced with the same logistical problems, including expiring permits, as I have, I am safe in my little corner here ( no Covid- cases so far) and no potential threat to the Canadian health system...I know, functionaries don't think that way, but still...
It would be nice to be suggested a good immigration lawyer annex international tax specialist ( my situation is more complex, with in a few years also Dutch pension coming up)...
Thanks in advance for suggestions on either.
 

armoured

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My PR card expires March 28, I still have a little bit of time. Since the mandatory 3 hotel- quarantine days have created nothing but chaos I hope that will have disappeared by the end of the month ( but I could of course always fly to Seattle and take a bus to Vancouver...)
As per discussion above, if you have the possibility of returning before your PR card expires, you will be let in, and there is a chance (which I'd call a good chance but that's a guess) let in without serious difficulties. And once in, you will have more options about how to address going forward while keeping your PR status. At the border, it will almost certainly be a verbal examination where the focus will be (mostly) on why you were not compliant, and where you can give the reasons such as covid travel difficulties, health concerns, the travel chaos, etc. (I mean it likely will not involve a detailed accounting of how many days you were in/out of Canada).

If the options once returning prove unworkable (i.e. the practical limitations on travel are too severe a restriction on your employment), then, well, you always have the option of leaving and being in a similar situation to where you are now. So to repeat: for the most part, your best option is to return before your card expires.

For the moment, my plan is to somehow explain my situation to IRCC. ...
The only thing that I would like help with, as at the start of this thread really, is an address at IRCC where I could send my explanation, other than their webmail that seems to go unmonitored.
I've stated this above, perhaps less explicitly: I don't understand what explanation you are attempting to send; any explanation you send must be in the context of a specific request or procedure.

Your explanation may be perfect and understandable - but if it's not clear what you are asking for and under what procedure/rule, they basically will not be able to provide you a useful response. (And it's true that the webmail and call centres are not very useful for general questions except for the most basic)

That's why I emphasized above - it's less important to try to figure out the technical details of how to complete forms if it's not clear what forms you're completing and why.
 
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The only thing that I would like help with, as at the start of this thread really, is an address at IRCC where I could send my explanation, other than their webmail that seems to go unmonitored.
To be clear, there is no process in place for you to email IRCC to explain your situation. This mechanism simply isn't available. For this reason there is no email address any of us here can provide that will allow you to do this.

You need to make a decision on what your next steps will be without any input from IRCC. IRCC will not grant you an exception in advance or provide any guidance / direction. If you are seeking advice / guidance on what your next steps should be beyond the support you've gotten here, you'll need to hire an immigration lawyer. IRCC does not offer advice.
 
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canuck78

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Like I wrote before, I do appreciate the effort to suggest me solutions.
I have put in a request with USA customs, to get my travel history for 2016; only when I have that I will really know where I stand.
My PR card expires March 28, I still have a little bit of time. Since the mandatory 3 hotel- quarantine days have created nothing but chaos I hope that will have disappeared by the end of the month ( but I could of course always fly to Seattle and take a bus to Vancouver...)

For the moment, my plan is to somehow explain my situation to IRCC. I will have to inform them about my whereabouts anyway, and also CRA. They seem to have a questionnaire to determine the legal status of Canadians living abroad. Unfortunately my accountant has no clue.
The only thing that I would like help with, as at the start of this thread really, is an address at IRCC where I could send my explanation, other than their webmail that seems to go unmonitored.
There seem to be concerns that Canada isn't going to meet its immigration targets; also, new PR- holders seem to be faced with the same logistical problems, including expiring permits, as I have, I am safe in my little corner here ( no Covid- cases so far) and no potential threat to the Canadian health system...I know, functionaries don't think that way, but still...
It would be nice to be suggested a good immigration lawyer annex international tax specialist ( my situation is more complex, with in a few years also Dutch pension coming up)...
Thanks in advance for suggestions on either.
If you try to come back to Canada through the US you won't be able to take public transportation from the US border to Vancouver. That would defeat the purpose of quarantine.