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gprasad.n

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Dear All,

I think many of them might have posted similar question, but each case is different is my opinion. I really don't have any ide about what people are talking about.

I got my PR approval thru FSW . I attended an interview and I was told that the work location is going to be in Ontario, however, the employer wants me to work in Montral, QC instead of Ontario. I am planning to arrive at Canada in the second week of July 2015 to take that job. Am i allowed to work and settle in Quebec with Canadian PR without a CSQ. And what are the first things to do in Canada after landing as a PR like getting PR card and etc?

Your expert advise is much appreciated.

Thanks.,
 

atinsingh

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Yes, you can work in QC without any issue. PR allow to work any where in Canada.
 

gprasad.n

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Thanks for your reply.
I was told that, I should apply for a SIN when I land in Canada.

Please correct me if I am wrong.

As an (FSW) immigrant, I can land anywhere in Canada but Quebec and apply for SIN. Once I have the SIN I am free to go to work in Quebec and apply for the PR CARD and Medical Insurance from Qc.
 

Marlee

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No, in order to register with the RAMQ as a PR, you will have to present your CSQ.
 

gprasad.n

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Is there any work around for this? because, I don't have a CSQ. I am totally confused, please help.
 

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You could get a private health insurance but that is damn expensive.
 

deweysmith

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Depending on the class your PR was issued under, CSQ can be pretty easy. If you are family-class sponsored, it's just a paper you sign that says you want to integrate into a French society.

In any case, if you speak French, then a CSQ is just waiting to take a language evaluation, and then waiting for it to be issued.
 

Lammawitch

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Marlee said:
No, in order to register with the RAMQ as a PR, you will have to present your CSQ.
Wrong, if the op lands in another province then *moves* to QC.
 

Marlee

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No. Have had that situation in my company lately. She landed in Vancouver under the CEC, then moved to Montreal and the RAMQ wanted to see her CSQ...which obviously she doesn't have. She now has the option to either apply for a CSQ and have a private insurance in the meanwhile or to leave the province. She will move back to BC on July 1st. Too much of a hassle.
 

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1) You have to land anywhere in Canada, but Quebec. If you land in Quebec, they will ask for CSQ and you will not have that, therefore your landing will be refused. So, do not risk that. For your PR, you need to give a canadian address (other than of Quebec). They will stamp your CoPR and you are now a permanent resident. Once you have cleared immigration, go to Service Canada office (if they are at airport, well and good, otherwise go the next day) and get your SIN. You will need to give an address to Service Canada. Once you have your CoPR, now you can work anywhere in Canada.

2) Yes. Once you have successfully landed, you can work anywhere in Canada. However, you will face some problems with RAMQ (Quebec Health Insurance) as they require CoPR, CSQ and Proof of Residence in Quebec. There's a 3 months of waiting period anyway on everyone. Look into the eligibility page for more information. (the only option I can see is to apply for health insurance card in your province of landing. Once you have acquired a health insurance card, then only you move to quebec and show that card. Others might comment on this).
 

Marlee

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XpressEnterprise said:
1) You have to land anywhere in Canada, but Quebec. If you land in Quebec, they will ask for CSQ and you will not have that, therefore your landing will be refused. So, do not risk that. For your PR, you need to give a canadian address (other than of Quebec). They will stamp your CoPR and you are now a permanent resident. Once you have cleared immigration, go to Service Canada office (if they are at airport, well and good, otherwise go the next day) and get your SIN. You will need to give an address to Service Canada. Once you have your CoPR, now you can work anywhere in Canada.

2) Yes. Once you have successfully landed, you can work anywhere in Canada. However, you will face some problems with RAMQ (Quebec Health Insurance) as they require CoPR, CSQ and Proof of Residence in Quebec. There's a 3 months of waiting period anyway on everyone. Look into the eligibility page for more information. (the only option I can see is to apply for health insurance card in your province of landing. Once you have acquired a health insurance card, then only you move to quebec and show that card. Others might comment on this).
You are absolutely right. However, concerning 2), the issue is that you are obliged to switch health insurances once you take upon residence in another province. In the end, you will have to renew it after 5 years and at that point you will have to prove your residency in the province (e.g. Ontario). Also, it might raise red flags if they see that you solely use it out of province. On the Ontario health site it states:

"Generally, to be continuously eligible for OHIP, a person must make their primary place of residence in Ontario and must be physically present in Ontario for 153 days in any given 12-month period. However, a person can travel temporarily outside of Ontario and within Canada and continue to receive OHIP coverage (with some restrictions).

Typically this coverage (while out-of-province but within Canada) is for physician and hospital services only. Therefore, when traveling outside of Ontario but within Canada, the ministry recommends that you obtain private supplementary health insurance for non-physician/non-hospital services."


So if you have the money, you could theoretically buy a place in Ontario, claim it to be your primary residence and spend 153 days per year there. That is 4 months per year though, which I find quite complicated logistically speaking.
 

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gprasad.n said:
Thanks for your reply.
I was told that, I should apply for a SIN when I land in Canada.

Please correct me if I am wrong.

As an (FSW) immigrant, I can land anywhere in Canada but Quebec and apply for SIN. Once I have the SIN I am free to go to work in Quebec and apply for the PR CARD and Medical Insurance from Qc.
Be careful with what some people is saying here as it's not true. All we say here you should contrast with official sources.

Now....

Yes, you'd apply for a SIN so you can work anywhere in Canada and also SIN allows you to get some Government services. That applies to any new immigrant.

As a FSW you can LAND wherever you want in Canada including Quebec. Don't mix "land" with "work" and "reside".

The ONLY issue you have to have in mind is that as you were not supposed to live in Quebec, when landing wherever you want in Canada including Quebec, the officer could ask you when are you going to Ontario (that's happen to me). So, if, let's say, you land in Quebec and you tell the officer that you are going to live in Quebec, then MAYBE you could have some trouble.

Regarding the working issue, as a Canadian Permanent Resident, once you land, you can work wherever you want in Canada. However, it's true than in Quebec you'd face some difficulties for not having the CSQ like being insured by the RMQ, taking free French lessons, etc. However, difficulties don't equal to something you can't do. Read the official RAMQ info so you see you do can be insured: http://www.ramq.gouv.qc.ca/en/immigrants-foreign-workers-students/health-insurance/Pages/registration.aspx
 

ferda

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Private health insurance can be less of a hassle and more appropriate if you have issues with coverage. It can help bridge the gap that you have, and it doesn’t have to be unreasonably expensive. I would say look into it, and see what you find – there is a lot of choice out there so you have to look carefully but you can find something to suit your needs. I heard about http://www.visitorguard.com/ as a private short-term health insurance option that might be worth a look.