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gskhema

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I landed in Canada with family of 4 in Sep'10.All of us received PR cards in Oct'10.I returned to India in end of OCT'10 with a plan to come back to Canada in 2012 after saving some money required for settling down.During my stay in Canada I had attended job search workshops, registered for my licensing in engineering and also graduated in a specific job search and interview prep course for engineers.
In 2012 I briefly went to Canada for attending an interview in licensing process which however, didnot materilize.
I returned back to India within a week of the interview with a plan to comeback to Canada soon after resigning my job. In this period I was already having signs of spondylosis in neck and back areas.
Unfortunately upon my return to India in 2012 my spondylosis worsened and was advised by my doctors to remain at rest and take treatment.
Also i fell sick with bouts of high fever from which i could recover only in Oct 2013.
In the meantime I had invested my savings in a large Indian commodity exchange so as to have some more money when I return to Canada. I also secured admission in University of Toronto to enable my licensing process , rented a house for our stay , secured appointment for school admissions etc.
Unfortunately just a week before we were scheduled to leave to Canada for good ie in Aug'13 , the exchange cheated me badly and all my money was lost leaving me cashless. I was forced to cancel all my tickets, admissions, home rentals, school admissions etc to saty in India and fight for recovering my money without which i would just not be able to live in Canada.
After lot of legal and audit processes, I got about 90% of my money back only in June'14.
With all issues settled, I am now eager to return to Canada in July'14. However, by my calculations, I will be failing to meet residency obligations by 279 days if I were to reach Canada on July 31 this year.
I request guidance from experts to enable me return to Canada, where I want to stay for the remainder of my professional life.

Regards

gskhema
 
gskhema said:
I landed in Canada with family of 4 in Sep'10.All of us received PR cards in Oct'10.I returned to India in end of OCT'10 with a plan to come back to Canada in 2012 after saving some money required for settling down.During my stay in Canada I had attended job search workshops, registered for my licensing in engineering and also graduated in a specific job search and interview prep course for engineers.
In 2012 I briefly went to Canada for attending an interview in licensing process which however, didnot materilize.
I returned back to India within a week of the interview with a plan to comeback to Canada soon after resigning my job. In this period I was already having signs of spondylosis in neck and back areas.
Unfortunately upon my return to India in 2012 my spondylosis worsened and was advised by my doctors to remain at rest and take treatment.
Also i fell sick with bouts of high fever from which i could recover only in Oct 2013.
In the meantime I had invested my savings in a large Indian commodity exchange so as to have some more money when I return to Canada. I also secured admission in University of Toronto to enable my licensing process , rented a house for our stay , secured appointment for school admissions etc.
Unfortunately just a week before we were scheduled to leave to Canada for good ie in Aug'13 , the exchange cheated me badly and all my money was lost leaving me cashless. I was forced to cancel all my tickets, admissions, home rentals, school admissions etc to saty in India and fight for recovering my money without which i would just not be able to live in Canada.
After lot of legal and audit processes, I got about 90% of my money back only in June'14.
With all issues settled, I am now eager to return to Canada in July'14. However, by my calculations, I will be failing to meet residency obligations by 279 days if I were to reach Canada on July 31 this year.
I request guidance from experts to enable me return to Canada, where I want to stay for the remainder of my professional life.

Regards

gskhema
I believe that your only option is to go to Canada, with as much documentary information on what has happened to you as possible, and hope that they don't report you for failing to meet the RO. There is no magic formula to guarantee that you will not be reported, as it is down to the discretion of the border services officer that deals with your entry.
 
Thnaks for the prompt reply. Just wondering about the probabilities of being reported. Any info on that , please
 
gskhema said:
Thnaks for the prompt reply. Just wondering about the probabilities of being reported. Any info on that , please

No one is going to be able to provide you with a probability or percentage on being reported. That information isn't available / doesn't exist.
 
The best you can say is that it's 50:50. Either you do, or you don't.
 
Just a last question - Does somebody know of people who did not meet the RO , but could enter Canada with or without being reported.
I know this is a very sensitive quotation. Just thought I could ask.

Thanks
 
Yes - there are people on this forum who didn't meet RO when they entered Canada. Some were aboe to enter without being reported and some were reported. If you want to know their stories you will have to read through the historical posts in this section of the forum.
 
Just another question to those who have succeded at POE after questioning. What was your strategy at the POE during the questioning process. Is it correct to sound confident while speaking the truth or must one put up a solemn face to invoke sympathy. Request to share your experiences
 
gskhema said:
Just another question to those who have succeded at POE after questioning. What was your strategy at the POE during the questioning process. Is it correct to sound confident while speaking the truth or must one put up a solemn face to invoke sympathy. Request to share your experiences

You should really stop trying to come up with a 'strategy' as the agents are trained to spot odd behaviour such as 'putting on a solemn face to invoke sympathy'. Just get to a POE, and when questioned answer them to the best of your ability and whatever you do, don't lie to them.
 
Alurra71 said:
You should really stop trying to come up with a 'strategy' as the agents are trained to spot odd behaviour such as 'putting on a solemn face to invoke sympathy'. Just get to a POE, and when questioned answer them to the best of your ability and whatever you do, don't lie to them.

Can't emphasize this enough -- tell the complete truth in a straightforward way, tell them what you hope to do, and hope for the best. This even worked for me once entering the US, in a situation that depended on the officer's discretion.
 
gskhema said:
Just another question to those who have succeded at POE after questioning. What was your strategy at the POE during the questioning process. Is it correct to sound confident while speaking the truth or must one put up a solemn face to invoke sympathy. Request to share your experiences

The biggest factor for success is simply LUCK. It depends on which CBSA officer you run into when trying to enter. Some are lenient and some are always strict. But it is always best to be truthful.
 
I have just one more question. Will the new immigration rules from Jan 2015 affect existing PRs who have not met residency obligations but returning to Canada in 2015 with a valid PR card
 
gskhema said:
I have just one more question. Will the new immigration rules from Jan 2015 affect existing PRs who have not met residency obligations but returning to Canada in 2015 with a valid PR card

Which new rules? There are no new rules concerning the PR residency requirements.

However, if you end up losing your PR and want to apply again, you will of course have to qualify under the current rules. You can not apply for a new PR based on the rules that were in effect when you applied the first time.
 
Thanks and understood. I was only referring to the new system for immigration which is supposed to take effect from Jan 2015. Thanks again
 
gskhema said:
Thanks and understood. I was only referring to the new system for immigration which is supposed to take effect from Jan 2015. Thanks again

There are no changes planned for the PR residency requirements that we know of but as said, if you were to lose your PR in 2015, you would apply again under whatever rules that are then in effect. If you get reported and appeal, the appeal could take 1-2 years so if you lose, you would have to leave and could then re-apply under whichever rules that are in effect at that time.