Please help, TRV rejected for my girlfriend.

[FrankCampbel]

Hello,

I met my girlfriend online. We were friends for 6 years and dated for 4 years and a half. I want to meet her but her visitor visa application was rejected yesterday. We're still waiting for her to pick up her passport to know what went wrong in her application because it seemed complete. We're both 24. Both employed full time. And she has 3000cad to spend here for a week + me taking care of some of her expenses.

On top of this I cannot visit her in her country or marry her there because they're muslim. And even though she has left her religion a long time ago she still has to have a muslim wedding to a muslim husband.

Anyway, we are really stressed out over the rejection news, so we decided to go on a trip to Malaysia, where it's visa free, to finally meet. And I was thinking of marrying her there until someone on this forums told me that we have to meet in hers or my country once before we get married. So the plan now changed. I still want to go to Malaysia with her for a small vacation. Then I will visit her. Then she applies for a visitor visa again. If it's refused. We will go on another vacation somewhere else where we can get married, as she is against religions and doesn't want me to convert to something she doesn't believe in.

Does this seem like a solid plan? Will there be any complications? Is meeting in another country a bad idea? Do we have to get married in her country? Because I'm willing to convert and do whatever it takes to take her with me. Or is there another type of visa we can apply for? We are lost so any suggestions or help are truly appreciated.

Thank you

 

[Bryanna]

I met my girlfriend online. We were friends for 6 years and dated for 4 years and a half. I want to meet her but her visitor visa application was rejected yesterday. We're still waiting for her to pick up her passport to know what went wrong in her application because it seemed complete. We're both 24. Both employed full time. And she has 3000cad to spend here for a week + me taking care of some of her expenses.

Unfortunately, it's not uncommon for young, single applicants to be refused especially if they don't have any previous travel history, dependent family members, assets/property ownership, etc.

IMO, her finances were low. She needs to prove she can afford the visit + airfare. For a TRV approval, she cannot be financially dependent on you. A visa officer would also question her visit of just one week where she would be spending a significant amount of her savings.

She needs to prove she has ties to return to Tunisia and she won't overstay her visit.

On top of this I cannot visit her in her country or marry her there because they're muslim. And even though she has left her religion a long time ago she still has to have a muslim wedding to a muslim husband.

Regardless of the country you eventually decide to marry in, your marriage must be legally valid for any spousal sponsorship process.

Anyway, we are really stressed out over the rejection news, so we decided to go on a trip to Malaysia, where it's visa free, to finally meet. And I was thinking of marrying her there until someone on this forums told me that we have to meet in hers or my country once before we get married.

Getting married the first time you meet is a big red flag. You and your girlfriend come from culturally different backgrounds, different religions, different economic standards of living, etc.

You would want to get to know her better offline as a person. Online interactions can be completely different as compared to one-to-one interactions in person. Sorry to say this: You would want to also 'test' that she isn't with you for immigration reasons. Just my two cents.

So the plan now changed. I still want to go to Malaysia with her for a small vacation. Then I will visit her. Then she applies for a visitor visa again. If it's refused. We will go on another vacation somewhere else where we can get married, as she is against religions and doesn't want me to convert to something she doesn't believe in.

If she intends to reapply for a TRV then a visit to Malaysia is not a good idea. That's because it is visa-free. She must visit a visa-required country like the UK, EU, Australia, NZ, etc instead.

Does this seem like a solid plan? Will there be any complications? Is meeting in another country a bad idea? Do we have to get married in her country? Because I'm willing to convert and do whatever it takes to take her with me. Or is there another type of visa we can apply for? We are lost so any suggestions or help are truly appreciated.

I would recommend you take your time to get to know her better in person before you make any marriage plans. This way you will also be able to build up evidence to prove it is a genuine marriage/not a Marriage of Convenience when you file for her spousal PR

 

[FrankCampbel]

I would recommend you take your time to get to know her better in person before you make any marriage plans. This way you will also be able to build up evidence to prove it is a genuine marriage/not a Marriage of Convenience when you file for her spousal PR

Thank you Bryanna for replying. I really appreciate it.
In fact it was her idea we go to Malaysia to be physically together after waiting for so long. And we are both aware it won't boost her chances of getting TRV as it's visa free. She's also against getting married so soon without having a real relationship first and engagement. But I was hoping that it would help her get approved to visit her husband.

I realize now it sounds suspicious. I was thinking out of frustration as I was confident she was coming here that I got us tickets for events to go that I can't even refund now.

A guy from my work managed to sponsor his wife from the UK after they had only dated for one year in total, online and met only twice in person. And she got approved. It makes me genuinely sad, that just because my woman is from such country, she's unable to come see her bestfriend and soulmate. I understand they don't take risks but she's a genuine person. Educated. Modern and free thinker. Against religions and traditions. She was in college when we started dating. And she put her Masters on hold to get a job to be able to afford her trip to see me on her own and to be honest in her application without my financial support. The only support I was giving her here, was transportation as I own a car and housing as she was staying with me. And we mentioned that in her application. She had a detailed travel Itinerary with all expenses after doing so much research and it was under 2000k in total. she had an extra 1000 for her health insurance and she found a cheap flight for 860cad. She was able to visit for one week only because of her work. It was all included in the application.

I wish to visit her after Malaysia trip. Then she tries again to come here, if refused. I will either visit her again or we go somewhere else. Then I want to marry her. I don't see a point in trying again if she gets refused once more as we're only losing time.
I'm able to provide proof of how genuine our relationship is. I still have our chat logs from the first time we met to this day. Including screenshots from skype video calls doing things together. That with pictures of us together travelling and all. Do you think I'll be able to sponsor her to come here as my wife?

 

[Bryanna]

A guy from my work managed to sponsor his wife from the UK after they had only dated for one year in total, online and met only twice in person. And she got approved. It makes me genuinely sad, that just because my woman is from such country, she's unable to come see her bestfriend and soulmate.

From visa/ economic/ cultural perspectives, the UK is completely different from Tunisia.

The only support I was giving her here, was transportation as I own a car and housing as she was staying with me. And we mentioned that in her application. She had a detailed travel Itinerary with all expenses after doing so much research and it was under 2000k in total. she had an extra 1000 for her health insurance and she found a cheap flight for 860cad. She was able to visit for one week only because of her work. It was all included in the application.

She needs to prove she can afford every aspect for her visit. While it is understandable that income levels in Tunisia are not comparable, to a visa officer, her savings barely cover the visit expenses + her employment is not a financial incentive for her to return to Tunisia.

She might probably have a better chance if she enrolls for the Masters program instead.

I wish to visit her after Malaysia trip. Then she tries again to come here, if refused. I will either visit her again or we go somewhere else. Then I want to marry her. I don't see a point in trying again if she gets refused once more as we're only losing time.

IMHO, her chances of a TRV approval are low. She would find it incredibly difficult to get a TRV even after the Malaysia trip.

It's your personal decision where marriage is concerned. My only advice is please (please) get to know her in person. Take your time. Do not rush. People can be different from their online avatars.... or maybe the level of compatibility could be different.

Don't allow that feeling of *being in love* to cloud your mind. Do think with your mind and not just with your heart. And, also think from IRCC's PR assessment perspective. After all, marriage is serious commitment.

I'm able to provide proof of how genuine our relationship is. I still have our chat logs from the first time we met to this day. Including screenshots from skype video calls doing things together. That with pictures of us together travelling and all. Do you think I'll be able to sponsor her to come here as my wife?

For PR sponsorship, it would help if first she meets your family/friends and you do likewise to meet her family/friends. Even for the marriage ceremony/civil marriage - it should not be an impulsive decision, but a properly organized event attended by family/friends.

Basically, you need to prove the relationship is a genuine one in all aspects

 

[FrankCampbel]

For PR sponsorship, it would help if first she meets your family/friends and you do likewise to meet her family/friends. Even for the marriage ceremony/civil marriage - it should not be an impulsive decision, but a properly organized event attended by family/friends.

Basically, you need to prove the relationship is a genuine one in all aspects

Thank you for taking the time to explain. Seems like there's no choice but to take it slow for now. Thanks!