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Linus0

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Jul 26, 2015
84
5
Montreal
Category........
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
02-09-2015
AOR Received.
28-11-2015
Med's Request
18-05-2016
Med's Done....
25-05-2016
LANDED..........
03-08-2016
I left everything behind and moved to canada at 19 to be with my spouse. We havent even been married 2 years.Everything seemed to be going good we never had a fight, rarely argued, tried to do fun stuff together, told each other I love you all the time. A couple weeks ago he told me he doesnt love me anymore :( and that he wants to break up. I cant believe he would do this to me. I just started university in january and just got my PR in August 2015. I am so heart broken. I would get if we argued everyday and hated each other but it wasnt like that at all!

I have no idea what to do, i cannot just go back home. I cannot stay in this appartment with him either. I lost my job because i could barely do anything except cry. I am so depressed and hurt :( to the point i dont know if life is worth living.

So my questions are how long can I legally stay in Canada? Does conditon 51 still apply?
 

Linus0

Star Member
Jul 26, 2015
84
5
Montreal
Category........
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
02-09-2015
AOR Received.
28-11-2015
Med's Request
18-05-2016
Med's Done....
25-05-2016
LANDED..........
03-08-2016
August 2016* for the PR
 

zardoz

VIP Member
Feb 2, 2013
13,304
2,166
Canada
Category........
FAM
Visa Office......
London
App. Filed.......
16-02-2013
VISA ISSUED...
31-07-2013
LANDED..........
09-11-2013
Linus0 said:
I left everything behind and moved to canada at 19 to be with my spouse. We havent even been married 2 years.Everything seemed to be going good we never had a fight, rarely argued, tried to do fun stuff together, told each other I love you all the time. A couple weeks ago he told me he doesnt love me anymore :( and that he wants to break up. I cant believe he would do this to me. I just started university in january and just got my PR in August 2015. I am so heart broken. I would get if we argued everyday and hated each other but it wasnt like that at all!

I have no idea what to do, i cannot just go back home. I cannot stay in this appartment with him either. I lost my job because i could barely do anything except cry. I am so depressed and hurt :( to the point i dont know if life is worth living.

So my questions are how long can I legally stay in Canada? Does conditon 51 still apply?
You can stay in Canada indefinitely, unless you are subject to Condition 51 AND IRCC decide to investigate. Your spouse is still responsible for you for the remaining balance of the sponsorship undertaking. There is nothing that you need to do at this point from an immigration aspect.
 

Buletruck

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May 18, 2015
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Unless he reports the relationship breakdown to IRCC or they do an investigation, you should be able to stay until the condition expires (if you have it).
 

Linus0

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Jul 26, 2015
84
5
Montreal
Category........
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
02-09-2015
AOR Received.
28-11-2015
Med's Request
18-05-2016
Med's Done....
25-05-2016
LANDED..........
03-08-2016

majesty

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Feb 10, 2017
782
241
Category........
FAM
Visa Office......
Mexico
App. Filed.......
25-01-2017
AOR Received.
23-02-2017 (AOR 1); 26-05-2017 (AOR2)
File Transfer...
13/03/2017
Med's Done....
30-07-2016 (Passed)
Linus0 said:
Thank you :(
Sorry you have to go through this. I hope you don't receive any hassles from IRCC. If you have not much support here from family or friends, maybe your university has counsellors you can go see about your breakup.

Good luck to you!
 

Linus0

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Jul 26, 2015
84
5
Montreal
Category........
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
02-09-2015
AOR Received.
28-11-2015
Med's Request
18-05-2016
Med's Done....
25-05-2016
LANDED..........
03-08-2016
Thank you :(

But if i fill out government forms like taxes and financial aid wont they see that the address is different? I just looked and i have condition 51. Will they report that to immigration? And if we get a divorce will that be reported to immigration too? I have no idea what i am going to do.
 

Linus0

Star Member
Jul 26, 2015
84
5
Montreal
Category........
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
02-09-2015
AOR Received.
28-11-2015
Med's Request
18-05-2016
Med's Done....
25-05-2016
LANDED..........
03-08-2016
And when i have to renew my PR card, wont they see that as well?
 

Rob_TO

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Nov 7, 2012
11,427
1,551
Toronto
Category........
FAM
Visa Office......
Seoul, Korea
App. Filed.......
13-07-2012
AOR Received.
18-08-2012
File Transfer...
21-08-2012
Med's Done....
Sent with App
Passport Req..
N/R - Exempt
VISA ISSUED...
30-10-2012
LANDED..........
16-11-2012
Linus0 said:
And when i have to renew my PR card, wont they see that as well?
Conditional status of PR is automatically removed exactly 2 years after getting PR status. So in your case would be Aug 2018. After this point, as long as no investigation was already started into conditional PR rule then you would be assured of keeping your PR status forever. Anything that happens after the 2 year point is irrelevant, so would be zero risk to renew PR card in 5 years time.
 

wait_so_long

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Jul 31, 2016
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Is Condition 51 based on the date the person landed, or the date that the couple were married? As I recall, Condition 51 does not apply to couples who were already married more than 2 years.

Regardless of Condition 51, the sponsor would be responsible for you for the entire 3 year term. Since you are going to school, and now jobless, your husband might see that as a risk that he is not willing to take. If this is unusual and unexpected behavior, is it possible that your husband is deliberately pushing you away to save you from something? Is he perhaps sick? Or maybe got involved in something that might put you in danger?

Best of luck to you.

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/department/media/backgrounders/2012/2012-10-26a.asp

There is also a good chance that Condition 51 might be repealed later this spring, and it would be retroactive. This was something started by the previous immigration minister, but the current minister is looking at getting rid of a lot of other conditions.
 

zardoz

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Feb 2, 2013
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Canada
Category........
FAM
Visa Office......
London
App. Filed.......
16-02-2013
VISA ISSUED...
31-07-2013
LANDED..........
09-11-2013
wait_so_long said:
Is Condition 51 based on the date the person landed, or the date that the couple were married? As I recall, Condition 51 does not apply to couples who were already married more than 2 years.

Regardless of Condition 51, the sponsor would be responsible for you for the entire 3 year term. Since you are going to school, and now jobless, your husband might see that as a risk that he is not willing to take. If this is unusual and unexpected behavior, is it possible that your husband is deliberately pushing you away to save you from something? Is he perhaps sick? Or maybe got involved in something that might put you in danger?

Best of luck to you.

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/department/media/backgrounders/2012/2012-10-26a.asp

There is also a good chance that Condition 51 might be repealed later this spring, and it would be retroactive. This was something started by the previous immigration minister, but the current minister is looking at getting rid of a lot of other conditions.
The 2 years starts at the date of landing.
 

yasir22

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Jun 5, 2014
716
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ontario
Visa Office......
London
App. Filed.......
21-05-2014
Doc's Request.
29-04-2015
File Transfer...
SA on 30-07-2014
Med's Request
19-05-2015
Med's Done....
upfront med.: 7-04-2014 and re-med.: 21-05-2015
Interview........
Waived !!
Passport Req..
DM on 2-06-2015, PPR on 05-06-2015
VISA ISSUED...
Visa issued: 02-07-2015, Received: 07-07-2015
LANDED..........
January 2016
As far As I remember, condition 51 does not apply if couple are married for at least 2 years at the time of submitting sponsorship application.
 

zardoz

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Feb 2, 2013
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Canada
Category........
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Visa Office......
London
App. Filed.......
16-02-2013
VISA ISSUED...
31-07-2013
LANDED..........
09-11-2013
yasir22 said:
As far As I remember, condition 51 does not apply if couple are married for at least 2 years at the time of submitting sponsorship application.
Correct, or have a child between them before submitting the application. IRCC have made mistakes however, so you need to double check that the COPR has the correct condition set.
 

TANMEX

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Dec 14, 2015
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Linus0 said:
Thank you :(

But if i fill out government forms like taxes and financial aid wont they see that the address is different? I just looked and i have condition 51. Will they report that to immigration? And if we get a divorce will that be reported to immigration too? I have no idea what i am going to do.
Other government agencies don't know about your Condition 51 and they will not report it to immigration . and they are not going to compare your address to your sponsor's .
 

Aquakitty

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Mar 21, 2011
3,015
162
BC
Category........
FAM
Visa Office......
Ottawa
App. Filed.......
04-03-2015
AOR Received.
14-04-2015 - SA Received: 20-04-2015
Med's Done....
28-01-2015 Upfront
Interview........
Waived
Passport Req..
N/A
VISA ISSUED...
25-06-2015
LANDED..........
11-07-2015
The IRCC is too busy with criminals to care about your condition 51. The CRA doesn't share information with IRCC. If they did, none of us would need to submit Option C/Notice of Assesments.

They only have access if you default on an immigration loan, or the person you sponsor goes on social assistance. They won't be reporting your marital status.

Now the CBSA on the other hand, might hassle you because that's what they do, so I'd suggest not travelling until your Condition 51 is up or it is cancelled by the government.