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canuck78

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Canadian is a Canadian is a Canadian.

Immigrants come here for a better life but not every aspiring immigrant is welcome in Canada either. Most of the immigrants land here via skilled immigration stream which is for people who add economic value to Canada and of course they get to enjoy Canadian life. People who have not seen the process and who have not been through the full cycle cannot appreciate how immigrants earn citizenship rather than getting it by virtue of being born here. This is same for all countries including Canada.
You are basically are countering your own argument. Immigrants earn citizenship mostly through skilled immigration. How are parents “earning” (your words) immigration. Canada’s immigration programs have been created to bring in highly skilled people and mostly balance out and aging population and a low birth rate. Most countries similar to Canada offer no immigration for parents and grandparents that include healthcare.
 

canuck78

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Hahahaha.
Not quite sure why this is funny. Most countries that are similar to Canada like Australia do not offer a parent immigration program that includes access to free healthcare. Most Canadians who have not been involved in immigration for the past decade or so have no idea this program exists. Although empathetic they probably will prefer for all current seniors to have access services and for all Canadians to get a family doctor before we add more seniors who likely will never work or pay taxes in Canada.
 
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canuck_in_uk

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Canadian is a Canadian is a Canadian.

Immigrants come here for a better life but not every aspiring immigrant is welcome in Canada either. Most of the immigrants land here via skilled immigration stream which is for people who add economic value to Canada and of course they get to enjoy Canadian life. People who have not seen the process and who have not been through the full cycle cannot appreciate how immigrants earn citizenship rather than getting it by virtue of being born here. This is same for all countries including Canada.
Absolutely no one has said that a person who immigrates and becomes a Canadian citizen is any less Canadian than those born here. While there are certainly people out there who believe that, they generally don't come to immigration forums such as this one to give or receive advice. Every single country has some, or a lot of, anti-immigrant sentiment; Canada is not certainly not unique for that and not even close to being the worst around.
 

MST05

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Hello everyone ,

I have one question regarding Parental Sponsership . I am applying for my mother but in my passport i dont have Surname . I have Given name so what do i do ?
 

deerestlovelybear

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Last year it took only 6 minutes 14 seconds till the quota is filled! Will they change the process this year, if not what to prepare? I am applying for grandparents this year
 

SriKo

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Hi All,

I am a permanent resident and am looking to sponsor my mother for the 2020 intake. As I was looking into the documents required for sponsorship I realised that my Date of Birth Certificate is required for proving my relationship to my mother and I do not have one. It is a humongous task to get one from India. Can II use my passport instead which clearly shows my parents names? Please advise. Thank you.

Regards
Sridhar Kota
 

canuck78

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Hi All,

I am a permanent resident and am looking to sponsor my mother for the 2020 intake. As I was looking into the documents required for sponsorship I realised that my Date of Birth Certificate is required for proving my relationship to my mother and I do not have one. It is a humongous task to get one from India. Can II use my passport instead which clearly shows my parents names? Please advise. Thank you.

Regards
Sridhar Kota
There are other options like passport. This is not uncommon for India
 

Copingwithlife

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Why do we have PGP sponsorship program in Canada !!! We don't need this to burden our economy...probably someone needs to create awareness among fellow citizens
It’s only when people start dying on the waitlists for medical procedures and or surgeries and it makes the news everyday will the general population start to take note that maybe the government will start realizing the medical system can’t handle the influx of older people.
I get it that Canada’s population is growing older , however the government has to start funding the infrastructure if they want to continue with certain programs
 
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nayr69sg

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It’s only when people start dying on the waitlists for medical procedures and or surgeries and it makes the news everyday will the general population start to take note that maybe the government will start realizing the medical system can’t handle the influx of older people.
I get it that Canada’s population is growing older , however the government has to start funding the infrastructure if they want to continue with certain programs
Fund infrastructure with what money?

Meanwhile Canadians want to destroy economic drivers because of climate change in order to reduce our GHG emissions which only represent 1.6% of global emissions.

Want to look good? But don't like paying the price? It is so Canadian.
 
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nayr69sg

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It is incredulous that with unemployment at one of its lowest and the economy supposedly "strong" the federal finance minister puts a budget that forecasts a DEFICIT.

So if this is Canada during good times what happens when recession and turmoil hits?

Oh well. Canadians love to buy stuff on credit. They love their holiday loans.

So why are Canadians who are fiscally loose, keen to pile on debt out telling immigrants that the country shouldn't spend money on their parents?

Is Canada bankrupt? It isn't. Not yet. So it can afford it.

As I have said many times, if Canada wanted to flex its muscles economically it CAN. It just needs the resolve to say, let's do it.

But there are too many SJW with crazy ideas of a utopia.
 
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canuck78

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I think immigrants should stop saying they have a "right" to sponsor their parents. It angers Canadians because there is no such "right".

Also it is offensive when immigrants bring up that because they pay taxes that they have that "right". Again paying taxes has nothing to do with such a "right".

Sponsoring your parents is a PRIVILEGE.

Now for the Canadians though, the argument of parents coming in and not contributing to the economy and being a drain on resources......well how about changing the criteria for parents to come to Canada based on ability to contribute economically then?

eg being able to invest $2m in a Canadian GIC of sorts?

I know many Canadians would say "hey that is elitist! and favors the rich"

Well that's the problem with Canadians too. They like to say everything is fair and socialist almost communist but then would complain about how some take more from the system than others.

You can't have your cake and eat it. If you want to come across as noble and great and sharing and welcoming etc.....then you have to pay the $$$ price.

It is the same with climate change too. Canada wants to be the LEADER in climate change when we know our best efforts would do NOTHING to actually change anything for the better except make us look good. Well the process involves destroying some of our best economic drivers. So we will have to pay the price for again LOOKING GOOD but not actually effecting any change at all.

In my opinion it is foolish to do this. Image. How you look. These are stupid things to be concerned with. But it is a Canadian obsession.
Asking people to put a small amount of money in GICs does not really benefit the economy. The major way to benefit the economy is to work and pay taxes. You would have to work more than 5-10 years to offset some of the costs of just your healthcare unless you are one of those rare people who have no health problems, never goes to the doctor and dies in their sleep with no attempt at resuscitation.
 
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canuck78

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Fund infrastructure with what money?

Meanwhile Canadians want to destroy economic drivers because of climate change in order to reduce our GHG emissions which only represent 1.6% of global emissions.

Want to look good? But don't like paying the price? It is so Canadian.
Have you checked the oil prices recently or the amount of oil being pumped out of the ground in places like the US? That has nothing to do with Canada’s policy. You can’t blame all Alberta’s economic issues on environmentalists.
 

babybenz

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Anyone guess when there will be updates to the PGP 2020? Probably in the early January 2020 heh?
Last year, the race start at the end of January I remembered...