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Pakistanis. what about if we dont have employment contract but only exp. letter

Irfan00228

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Pakistanis. what about if we dont have employment contract but only exp. letter from their employers.

Is it enough? because if we take a look on check list provided by CIO and read work experience section. at the end of this section they write, If you can provide the employement contract and experience letter, provide the reason in writing. It seems that these two documents are not mandatory.

What would you say.

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Yes, You can Provide the explanation in lieu of Contract, but the expalantion should be Reasonable enough to convince the Visa Officer, (the later part is jut my assumption, and what I did in my case)
 

Irfan00228

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Thanks yar for your reply.

Do you have any reasonable matter for having no employment contract?
As you know in pakistan employers do not practice such contract, and they just provide the experience letter.

In you opinion what should be reasonable explaination?

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Sans_May2010

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If you are ok with a non-pakistani opinion I can give you some guideline

I had the same issue with my previous employer. When I talked about this to my consultant he said a clear covering letter will solve the problem. It will be good if you can provide them with your business card or a reference letter from your supervisor or manager. Thats how I did in my case.

Wish you all the best, Sans_May2010
 

Irfan00228

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Thanks Sans_May2010 for your reply.

But if we provide the written explanation why we dont have the employment contract. how it would be?

Just tell me after submitting the documents to london office, did you received any emain from london office or any other correspondance?

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Irfan00228

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Thanks hamsafar for yor reply.

what did you submit? did you submit both documents or one of them?

I did not under stand by your this statement. please elaborate.

(the later part is jut my assumption, and what I did in my case)

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Irfan Bhai,
Do you have an appointment letter, if yes, then this will be treated as a contract.

For one of my job I provided the appointment letter, and for other I just explained the reason why I could not provide the letter.

Hope this clears the confusion.
 

Irfan00228

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Thanks humsafar for your reply.

actually i did not hv any appointment letter. because

there is nothing at my company to issue the same. all

appointments are being made by references.

I make an reason why i dont have the contract. in which

i state that most of organization in pakistan dont

practicse this contract and just appoint employees

without contract. Because in case when some employees

caugt guilty they are expelled from their services.

Afterward these employees make some sue against the

company. That's why the orgnizations do not issue any

such document to employees to avoid any inconvenience in

future. The organizations make documents only for their

internal not external use.

How is it? What would you say about this reason? I am

also giving the copy of my employee card also as

evidence.

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Sans_May2010

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HI Irfan00228

CHC as per my beleif really consider genuine reasons if anybody fails to produce supporting documents. What you can do at the moment is explain in detail the reasons why you could not get a contract letter (like most pak employers doesnt provide contract letter because of such and such) and if possible get a business card or any reference of your supervisor or Manager. Make sure you notarize your original experience letter with a certified notarizing authority in Pakistan and that will do. This is not a big issue. They might enquire with your employer regarding your employment with them and thats it. If its quite common in Pakistan employment I am sure the CHC London would have seen many applicants with no contract letters.

My visa office in New Delhi, India and I havent received any letters from the visa office. This info was from my consultant who is in business for few years now and he is very respected in consultation of Canda Immigration.

Hope this will Help. Sans_May2010





Irfan00228 said:
Thanks Sans_May2010 for your reply.

But if we provide the written explanation why we dont have the employment contract. how it would be?

Just tell me after submitting the documents to london office, did you received any emain from london office or any other correspondance?

Please replay.
 

Jan Khan

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Assalam-u-alaikum,

Can you please remove Pakistanis from your Subject, this is second time I saw this, it doesn't give good impression about Pakistanis, (Please remove the word Pakistanis) Change your subject to "what about if we don't have employment contract but only exp. letter". Thanks
 

Irfan00228

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ok just tell how it would be removed i am ready to remove the same. would you like to update you profile on this forum.
 

Jan Khan

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am also new to this forum, guess if any expert may help in this regard. Thanks for taking my advice positively.
 

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Jan Khan said:
Assalam-u-alaikum,

Can you please remove Pakistanis from your Subject, this is second time I saw this, it doesn't give good impression about Pakistanis, (Please remove the word Pakistanis) Change your subject to "what about if we don't have employment contract but only exp. letter". Thanks
there is no harm in it. he is referring because he wants to listen from other pakistani bros. its ok and i don't mind.