ON STUDY PERMIT ALONGWITH 'OPEN' WORK PERMIT! ANYONE LIKE ME? URGENT!

[networksingh]

I landed in Canada in AUGUST 2013 and have both a study permit and "open" work permit. Is anyone in the same situation? Please help.
I called immigration but call center people say that I can work full-time right away but I did not jump into it as my student adviser told me that be careful as a lot of student have been misinformed by immigration previously. I have my Social Insurance Number. Also I am curious that I am in an coop program ( with open work permit) so what if I could complete the required work hours for PR and being eligible for PR could I apply PR. I will give it a shot though but I can definitely work 20 hours per week. ;D

 

[scylla]

If you are asking about the Canadian Experience Class immigration program, then any work you do while studying cannot be counted towards qualifying for CEC. You will have to wait until you finish school before you can start counting hours worked towards CEC.

 

[networksingh]

If you are asking about the Canadian Experience Class immigration program, then any work you do while studying cannot be counted towards qualifying for CEC. You will have to wait until you finish school before you can start counting hours worked towards CEC.

Well yes so what I get after graduation is an open work permit which I already hold! So why not the hours be counted during my coop term as 37.5(per week) X 4 X 8= 1200 work hours. For pr in any category I need 940 work hours = 1 year experience 'on open work permit'. Please justify.

Also have you encountered anyone with both these permits? How much can I work per week now. Any information is appreciated.

 

[scylla]

I don't have to justify my answer. CIC justifies it. From the CEC manual:

Note: Any periods of self-employment, unauthorized work, work in an ineligible occupation, and periods of employment during which you were engaged in full-time study (e.g. work experience gained on a co-op, off-campus or on-campus work permit) will not be included when calculating the period of qualifying work experience. You must have had temporary resident status during the period of work experience acquired in Canada.

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/applications/guides/5609ETOC.asp

 

[itstime]

I believe that even though you have an open work permit along with your study permit, it means that you can work 20hrs p/w during semesters and full time during scheduled breaks such as christmas and summer.

 

[networksingh]

I don't have to justify my answer. CIC justifies it. From the CEC manual:

Note: Any periods of self-employment, unauthorized work, work in an ineligible occupation, and periods of employment during which you were engaged in full-time study (e.g. work experience gained on a co-op, off-campus or on-campus work permit) will not be included when calculating the period of qualifying work experience. You must have had temporary resident status during the period of work experience acquired in Canada.

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/applications/guides/5609ETOC.asp

Well again i would like to mention that for coop they have coop work permit, for off campus they have off campus work permit but I will be employed during coop on open work permit that is the point not mentioned on the website. I could find it nowhere because my employer is open. I may work with a non-coop employer during my coop term and gain required work experience to meet the criteria?

 

[scylla]

Well again i would like to mention that for coop they have coop work permit, for off campus they have off campus work permit but I will be employed during coop on open work permit that is the point not mentioned on the website. I could find it nowhere because my employer is open. I may work with a non-coop employer during my coop term and gain required work experience to meet the criteria?

Again, no. Any work you do before you complete your course and graduate will not count. It doesn't matter what kind of work permit you work under. All that matters is that you are still in school. Again, until you graduate, any work you do WILL NOT count towards the CEC requirement.

 

[networksingh]

Again, no. Any work you do before you complete your course and graduate will not count. It doesn't matter what kind of work permit you work under. All that matters is that you are still in school. Again, until you graduate, any work you do WILL NOT count towards the CEC requirement.

thanks for all the info. really appreciate that but how are you so sure of the information because when I called cic they said I can work full-time?

 

[itstime]

Again, no. Any work you do before you complete your course and graduate will not count. It doesn't matter what kind of work permit you work under. All that matters is that you are still in school. Again, until you graduate, any work you do WILL NOT count towards the CEC requirement.

What is highlighted in red is what counts. The study permit trumps the work permit and sets the rules for the work permit.

Also, as you are in a co-op program your work MUST be related to the program and gain you credits. Your permit only says it's open because it isn't affixed to one specific employer. It means you can work for ANY employer AS LONG AS your work is related to your program and follows the rules that are attached to working hill studying.

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/study/work-coop.asp

And it also says that you can only work 50% of your study time so if your program is full time you can work part time.

 

[scylla]

thanks for all the info. really appreciate that but how are you so sure of the information because when I called cic they said I can work full-time?

Just because you can work full time doesn't mean this work can be counted towards CEC. There are many students who work full time for a few months during the summer (between semesters). This work is full time but still cannot be counted towards CEC.

I will say it once again: Any work experience you obtain before you finish your diploma/degree and graduate cannot be counted towards CEC.

I'm not sure how this can be made any clearer to you. If you don't believe it, then by all means go ahead and apply too early so that CIC can refused your application but still take your application fees.

 

[mead]

I landed in Canada in AUGUST 2013 and have both a study permit and "open" work permit. Is anyone in the same situation? Please help.
I called immigration but call center people say that I can work full-time right away but I did not jump into it as my student adviser told me that be careful as a lot of student have been misinformed by immigration previously. I have my Social Insurance Number. Also I am curious that I am in an coop program ( with open work permit) so what if I could complete the required work hours for PR and being eligible for PR could I apply PR. I will give it a shot though but I can definitely work 20 hours per week. ;D

u got open work permit in error? how did u get an open work permit? if its an error u should not work on that permit. If u requested a coop work permit and got open work accidentally then u should report this and follow the coop work permit rules till its fixed. Its like if u got someone else credit card doesnt mean u should use it..its still breaking the law.

 

[Sweetalker]

I don't have to justify my answer. CIC justifies it. From the CEC manual:

Note: Any periods of self-employment, unauthorized work, work in an ineligible occupation, and periods of employment during which you were engaged in full-time study (e.g. work experience gained on a co-op, off-campus or on-campus work permit) will not be included when calculating the period of qualifying work experience. You must have had temporary resident status during the period of work experience acquired in Canada.

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/applications/guides/5609ETOC.asp

thnx for this clarification..
it helps..