Need Urgent Help !!!

[shiva1248]

hi

 

[green_dc]

You can submit the old pcc if the issue date is not 3 month-old. Or the another option is that you can file your application without pcc( check the document list, it says that) and once you get AOR, you can submit the pcc referring your application number on your AOR.
Hope that helps...

 

[cec007]

My suggestion:
a) Regarding letter-
1. Try to get a letter stating you duration/salary/hours worked from employer for some other purpose (e.g. health insurance)
2. If you can get this letter as mentioned above, include the letter, pay stubs, offer letter from employer and reference from Client in your application and do keep a note in your application explaining your situation and what documents you have managed to submit
3. If you could not arrange any letter from employer, just keep pay stubs, offer letter and ref letter with a note (as mentioned above)

b) On PCC-
Apply with the PCC you have and once you get a new one, mail that to CIC

Hi

Can anyone please suggest how to proceed.

I am working as S/W Engineer for IBM,i came to canada on may 29 2011 and working for xxx client and my client location is toronto.

I requested IBM to provide reference letter ,they replied only they can provide salary letter.i contacted my client and he is ready to give on letter with all my roles and responsibilites and number of working.(already started doing paper work) and my question now is can i submit ibm salary letter and client reference letter ,will it be sufficient.

and i applied pcc in feb 2013 and i am planning to submit pr early next week.my question can i submit with the old pcc or can i apply again wait until to get the new pcc.

Please suggest

Thanks

shiva

 

[shiva1248]

Hi

 

[InfoSeeker12]

Shiva, unfortunately only this much won't be enough. CIC officer will need a letter, that should have the info that's already included but additionally, it should also list your duties and responsibilities. Why? Because the officer will match your duties with the HRSDC's job description for the NOC code you will put in your application. They will ensure that you have the relevant experience in that job.

So if your manager is not giving, ask your HR. IBM is a huge firm, I'm hoping they have an HR division? You can tell them that you are requesting it for immigration purpose.

 

[cec007]

As mentioned by InfoSeeker12, try contacting HR. But if you could not get it from HR (worst case scenario), try to grab as much info as you can in multiple documents (may be your offer letter captures more on your responsibilities).
Also, the letter issued to you only mentions "temperory employee"...it should at least say full-time employee (with hours/week).

Hi

Thanks for your reply.

I requested my manager to give reference letter .She provided only the letter attached below and clearly mentioned in the mail

Please note that
this is the only employment/salary letter we are able to provide, and that
this (and/or your original offer letter) should be sufficient for any
leases, loans, provincial healthcare, or similar requests.


June 27, 2013

Shiva Arvapalli
Canada
To Whom This May Concern:
This will confirm that you have been employed by xxxx Ltd. since May 29, 2011 as a
temporary employee. Your current position is ADVISORY I/T SPECIALIST in our Toronto
location.
Your estimated annual income is $xxxx

Yours truly,
xxxxx
Global Delivery Program Manager - West
xxxxx

Please suggest,how can i proceed now
Can i request my client to give my roles and responsibilites and hours working

thanks

 

[beasty.boy]

Hi Shiva,
I have friends who work for IBM in Canada as temporary employees & I'm aware of the situation. You're not alone as this problem is not isolated to IBM alone. I know people from Accenture, TCS, etc having the same issue. That standard salary letter format issued by your company won't help. Nevertheless still attach it to your application. Some of my friends have worked around the situation by speaking to their reporting manager (people manager or project manager, but designation should be manager) & getting the reference letter on the letter head. Few of them have also applied with client reference letter (explaining the situation to CIC). Unfortunately, they applied about 6 months back & none of them have received their medicals yet. So, we don't know if the client letter has been accepted. But, it wouldn't hurt to apply with the Company salary letter & Client reference letter (which should have your roles and responsibilities) along with a letter to CIC explaining the situation.

As for the Indian PCC, you don't have to send it along with the application. If your old PCC is more than 3 months old, don't bother attaching it. Wait until you get your AOR & just send the new PCC when you get it quoting your AOR number.

PS: For your own good, try avoiding your name or company name in posts because there may be other people from your company scanning these threads (you own manager may be here ;D). People can advise without those detail.

 

[shiva1248]

Hi

Thanks for your valuable suggestions .

 

[cecnov2012]

These days you will never know what CIC will ask. My friends provided letter from our employer clearly stating the roles & responsibilities and working hours and duration but CIC is now asking a letter from client which confirms the roles and responsibilities. And the client side is hesitant to provide any such letter due to the recent RBC/iGate issue. Obviously they would want to stay from this but it is us who are in soup. Our 3+ years of canadian experience goes in vain if CIC rejects our applications quoting this reason. Also I dont understand why they have to lower the eligibility from 2 years to 1 year if they are going to be so stringent in approving PR.

 

[beasty.boy]

These days you will never know what CIC will ask. My friends provided letter from our employer clearly stating the roles & responsibilities and working hours and duration but CIC is now asking a letter from client which confirms the roles and responsibilities. And the client side is hesitant to provide any such letter due to the recent RBC/iGate issue. Obviously they would want to stay from this but it is us who are in soup. Our 3+ years of canadian experience goes in vain if CIC rejects our applications quoting this reason. Also I don't understand why they have to lower the eligibility from 2 years to 1 year if they are going to be so stringent in approving PR.

@ cecnov2012
I'd too have heard about CIC asking for additional letters from the client. Lesson to CEC applicants is - Avoid the word 'client' in your reference letter if you have a say in drafting the letter for your supervisor to sign. When we work on a client project we have a direct supervisor from our own company who knows what we do & can vouch for it & it should be just that. There is no requirement to state that we work on Client projects. The reference letter should be kept simple & don't over complicate it.

As for CIC being so strict on the reference letter, I've used to be irked about it... especially because nobody validates or cares if you will do the same job once you get your PR. But then, I have realized that that is kind of the point. If you can prove that you had done something for more than a year, then they hope that you will be employed in that category at the minimum & contribute to the economy. At the same time, I totally agree CIC have to do something to accommodate applicants who cannot provide a reference letter & be flexible & open about accepting other forms of reference. But, this is still better than US Green Card where your employer has to be the one to initiate the application process. Let us count our blessings!

 

[cecnov2012]

@ cecnov2012
I'd too have heard about CIC asking for additional letters from the client. Lesson to CEC applicants is - Avoid the word 'client' in your reference letter if you have a say in drafting the letter for your supervisor to sign. When we work on a client project we have a direct supervisor from our own company who knows what we do & can vouch for it & it should be just that. There is no requirement to state that we work on Client projects. The reference letter should be kept simple & don't over complicate it.

As for CIC being so strict on the reference letter, I've used to be irked about it... especially because nobody validates or cares if you will do the same job once you get your PR. But then, I have realized that that is kind of the point. If you can prove that you had done something for more than a year, then they hope that you will be employed in that category at the minimum & contribute to the economy. At the same time, I totally agree CIC have to do something to accommodate applicants who cannot provide a reference letter & be flexible & open about accepting other forms of reference. But, this is still better than US Green Card where your employer has to be the one to initiate the application process. Let us count our blessings!

We submitted the reference letter in the same format my colleagues have sent in the past couple of years. Even the guy who applied just a month ago got his MR without any query. Also when we apply for work permit and extension we do mention that we work at our client's place. So I am sure mentioning about client in the reference letter is not the only reason for CIC's request. Anyways lets see what happens.