MY WAITING GAME *** :) *** HISTORY REPEATING ITSELF

[eileenf]

eileenf, I really appreciate that you're trying to have PRs stand up for their rights and what not, but in reality its much more complicated. It's like asking someone to stand up to their rights in front of their boss at work when in reality no one does because it would hurt their career.

My main point isn't about standing up for rights (though I'm all for that too), it's about being clear about what the issue is to avoid freaking people out needlessly. The issue is residency, not marriage. There is so much anxiety amongst immigrants and PRs, so much fear about what might or might not cause problems and so much misinformation out there about the citizenship process that I think we owe it to each other to be really careful about not adding to the misinformation in our own anxiety.

I'm all for freaking people out about things that are true, but let's not freak people out needlessly by suggesting that the CIC has the right to control who we marry.

Farrous, I definitely laud you for giving up the fear and living your life!

 

[charmed10-2013]

My main point isn't about standing up for rights (though I'm all for that too), it's about being clear about what the issue is to avoid freaking people out needlessly. The issue is residency, not marriage. There is so much anxiety amongst immigrants and PRs, so much fear about what might or might not cause problems and so much misinformation out there about the citizenship process that I think we owe it to each other to be really careful about not adding to the misinformation in our own anxiety.

I'm all for freaking people out about things that are true, but let's not freak people out needlessly by suggesting that the CIC has the right to control who we marry.

Farrous, I definitely laud you for giving up the fear and living your life!

eileenf,

nobody is suggesting CIC has the right to control who we marry.

it's just that some decisions you make might affect your on going application.

of course, i have met the residency requirement, you are right marriage is not an issue, it is the consequence of moving to out of the country that i might lose my PR if my application go side ways..

that's why i thank the people who understand my dilemma and i thank you too who took the time to share her insights..

Good luck to all of us..

 

[charmed10-2013]

and i am not trying to freak people out, if my being paranoid freaks you out or anybody out there..

then I AM SORRY..

 

[nguyentu2001]

Charmed10-2013,

I hear you. Since you spent almost 8 years for this, I would wait until I get the citizenship.

My wife is US a citizen and she is a PR here as well. She had a horrible experience with the medical system here during her pregnancy, delivery and after the pregnancy that she wants us all to go back to US. She wants to start the petition process asap. I applied for citizenship in June 2013. I think the US immigrant visa processing for US spouses take about six months. If I do not get the Canadian citizenship by then, we will still probably go to US since my wife is not happy here...We have been here since 2010.

It is always best to make a decision and stick with it, at least that is how I see it.

Just curious! what is wrong with the medical system? My wife was a PR here and her pregnancy could not be any better. Absolutely wonderful experience!

It took me from 2011 still 2014 to get citizenship...worth it for me.
Anyway, you have a choice take it or leave it! simple.

 

[keesio]

No reason to wait to get married. I got married some a few months before I applied for citizenship. Made no difference to my application.

 

[keesio]

Just curious! what is wrong with the medical system? My wife was a PR here and her pregnancy could not be any better. Absolutely wonderful experience!

It is fine here. Maybe Dejaavu had platinum coverage in the US (i.e. - high end). The US is extremely unbalanced like that. The people who are lucky enough to have top coverage in the US can get care beyond what anyone here can get. But then again you have many people in the US with crap (or no coverage) who wish they had care that we do.

 

[vic48912]

No reason to wait to get married. I got married some a few months before I applied for citizenship. Made no difference to my application.

If you read her post properly you will notice her worries is about getting married to an American who does not have Canadian residency. this might trigger delay or outright refusal via the dreaded RQ as she might be classified as those that does not want to make Canada their home.

 

[Dejaavu]

My wife had a horrible experience in terms of access to professional/specialist care. I had an OK experience here.

It took my wife 9 months to see a specialist. I hope her experience is isolated case.

US is not a model for for healthcare but at least based on my and my wife's experience we could see specialists much faster and most doctors were more professional and accountable. It is hard to generalize but after 2 years of horrible experience, my wife can't wait to get out of here.

She doesn't want Canadian citizenship anyway as she came here for me. I decided to wait until I get my citizenship here and then we will go to US. In the meantime my wife will go to US to see doctors. The emotional and psychological toll of horrible medical practices on my wife have been tremendous and immeasurable and that we wouldn't have minded paying in the US and getting care in the timely manner.

I am glad though that others had more positive experience.

 

[Dejaavu]

I agree with Keesio. No need to wait. Just get married. It most likely won't affect your application for citizenship.

 

[Dejaavu]

Nguyentu2001,

Glad to hear your wife had a great experience.

Unfortunately my wife's was horrible. Doctor after doctor she saw were very incompetent. For example, my wife gave birth June 2013 and her doctors told her in November 2013 that she may have a thyroid cancer. We were waiting for the results of her thyroid condition whether it is cancer or not for almost 3 months, and then we get a call from her doctor's office saying to us that her pregnancy results are good in February 2014! She sent tests for pregnancy in August 2012 and she gave birth end of June 2013! We were expecting results on her thyroid condition not pregnancy results. I can write more but this is one example of sheer incompetence and no accountability. It is almost impossible to find a good family doctor. So we are stuck like in a traffic jam and we can't do anything except for being frustrated and waiting.
It seems to me in Canada, if you get a good doctor from the get go and you get referred to good specialists and it is mostly luck. But if you are like us and run into someone not good then you are stuck with bad specialists, long wait times, delays, gross incompetence...We tried so much to find other family doctors but most are not accepting and we have to wait until God knows how long, it is kinda like CIC application process but your health depends on it....I am glad to hear though that our situation is not indicative of the whole medical system here and that there are positive experiences....

 

[charmed10-2013]

Thank you all ;D

Yes you are right. Thank you all for your inputs.

I am getting married soon Que sera sera.. What will be.. will be

 

[keesio]

If you read her post properly you will notice her worries is about getting married to an American who does not have Canadian residency. this might trigger delay or outright refusal via the dreaded RQ as she might be classified as those that does not want to make Canada their home.

Yeah I married my American wife who had no Canadian residency at the time. I sponsored her and she became a Canadian resident later but at the time I applied, she did not have any residency. I did not get any delays or an RQ despite my many travels to the US to see her.

 

[keesio]

Dejaavu - sorry to hear of your wife's bad experience. yeah i totally agree, it is very hard to find a good family doctor and a good family doctor is key to getting referrals to good specialists. you're right that in the US it is easier to find quality specialists and find family doctors. the US can be good for that. Both Canadian and US systems have their pros and cons. That's why it is annoying when you see these people who are so pro- one side or the other.

 

[yuz]

I will say *censored word* and get on in life!!!

I put my life on hold for 7 years before my PR application was approved. I refuse to work in the US even after my company tried to force me to relocate on a H1B work visa. My brother that moved from Scotland to the US 5 years ago is now American citizen, his US Citizenship application took just 3 months to get his US citizenship......Now I got a good job oppurtunity in the Saudi Arabia so I am definitely taking the job offer. I am not going to play that game again

I wouldn't make long term waiting for 7 years thinking it will jeopardize my permanent resident application. Never again will I allow a bunch of narcissistic politician put my live on hold. I have just been issued with the moronic finger print request that means my application now fall under the category of non routine avg processing time 36 months. Hell no! I don't think I have the mental capacity to go thruogh that kind of torture

have you considered that if your job in Saudi Arabia unfortunately have any effects on the application, the past 7 years you spent may become meaningless?

I know what we spend past is considered sunk, but just cannot help myself stop thinking.....

 

[yuz]

I will say *censored word* and get on in life!!!

I put my life on hold for 7 years before my PR application was approved. I refuse to work in the US even after my company tried to force me to relocate on a H1B work visa. My brother that moved from Scotland to the US 5 years ago is now American citizen, his US Citizenship application took just 3 months to get his US citizenship......Now I got a good job oppurtunity in the Saudi Arabia so I am definitely taking the job offer. I am not going to play that game again

I wouldn't make long term waiting for 7 years thinking it will jeopardize my permanent resident application. Never again will I allow a bunch of narcissistic politician put my live on hold. I have just been issued with the moronic finger print request that means my application now fall under the category of non routine avg processing time 36 months. Hell no! I don't think I have the mental capacity to go thruogh that kind of torture

I have thought over it again....it's a good decision