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Fencesitter

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I have not updated my marital status in Canada since I got married. Will this cause CIC to think I have misrepresented, and therefore cause my sponsorship application to be rejected?

Thanks,
FS
 
Fencesitter said:
I have not updated my marital status in Canada since I got married. Will this cause CIC to think I have misrepresented, and therefore cause my sponsorship application to be rejected?

Thanks,
FS
you mean in tax papers?? or somewhere else?
when did you get married ?
 
I have been living abroad since 2001...so I have been a non-resident since that time, and I haven't filed any tax returns in Canada.

I was just wondering if I need to update my marital status (with Revenue Canada or some other government agency) BEFORE I submit my sponsorship application.

I am concerned that because the government doesn't have update info on my marital status, CIC may think I am misrepresenting or something...

I don't know, I just want to be absolutely sure I am not going to screw myself...

I need to fax something to someone saying that I am now married...

FS
 
I was married in 2009.
 
Right, I think what I am talking about is specific to Revenue Canada. I need to send an update (via fax) letting them know that I am married and my new address, which they don't have in their system.

Let's just say that I will send my application before advising Revenue Canada of my update marital status / address...will this be a problem for my sponsorship application? Are CIC and Revenue Canada linked up for immigration purposes?

Thanks,
FS
 
Anyone have any ideas on this???

Cheers,
FS
 
No. It doesn't so much matter to CIC. Changing your status with CRA to married falls under the section of "Nice if you did it, doesn't matter if you didn't" because many persons don't until after their spouse arrives in Canada, lots of them in your position where they are residing exclusively abroad.
 
CharlieD10 said:
No. It doesn't so much matter to CIC. Changing your status with CRA to married falls under the section of "Nice if you did it, doesn't matter if you didn't" because many persons don't until after their spouse arrives in Canada, lots of them in your position where they are residing exclusively abroad.

I have a similar case. I migrated to Canada under independent
professional category in year 2000. I became a Canadian citizen in year 2003. I was in a relationship in since 1990 that resulted into 2 kids. But the I was not married to this lady and at the same time I was responsible to financing and taken care of these kids. After I became a Canadian I went back home to married this lady under the Civil law marriage. The ceremony took place both the traditional marriage and Civil law marriage was conducted.

In 2004 I filled outland application for PR and she was refused because the VO did not believed there was a genie marriage between us. I did not appeal. In 2005, I moved to the US to work. With my US work visa, I was able to bring her and her dependent children to US. Due to US economy we moved back to Canada. I was able to get Visitor visa for 3 years. In January, 2011, I applied for Inland PR . Will I be able to sponsor her and the dependent children? Will this be a missrepresentation
 
POLICAP said:
I have a similar case. I migrated to Canada under independent
professional category in year 2000. I became a Canadian citizen in year 2003. I was in a relationship in since 1990 that resulted into 2 kids. But the I was not married to this lady and at the same time I was responsible to financing and taken care of these kids. After I became a Canadian I went back home to married this lady under the Civil law marriage. The ceremony took place both the traditional marriage and Civil law marriage was conducted.

In 2004 I filled outland application for PR and she was refused because the VO did not believed there was a genie marriage between us. I did not appeal. In 2005, I moved to the US to work. With my US work visa, I was able to bring her and her dependent children to US. Due to US economy we moved back to Canada. I was able to get Visitor visa for 3 years. In January, 2011, I applied for Inland PR . Will I be able to sponsor her and the dependent children? Will this be a missrepresentation

I'm shocked they didn't claim you had misrepresented your original application, since it sounds like you were in a common-law relationship back in 2000. Perhaps definitions have changed in the past 12 years. However, if they rejected you in 2004 AFTER you were married, they clearly can't then go back and argue you were in a common-law relationship prior to that.

Did you have your children examined as part of your application back in 2000? If not, I'd be fearful of you running into their exclusion from family sponsorship. Although again, if the VO decided your relationship wasn't "genuine" back in 2004/2005 and your children were on that application I cannot see how they can then go back and apply a terminal disclaimer logic to your original application.

Again, my mind boggles - how can a VO decide that a married couple WITH CHILDREN do not have a legitimate relationship? I could see the VO saying "these people should have been declared back in the original application but were not and are therefore barred from sponsorship" but not "this doesn't look like a legitimate relationship to me."

To be honest, this sounds like a potentially complicated case. You have many months to go before CIC is going to open your file and even look at it. It seems like you can wait and see what they say, but you may want to be prepared in case there are problems. If CIC has problems with your application, you are going to need a VERY good attorney. You might get lucky and the IO won't really look back beyond your previous application, in which case I think you've overcome the "not a genuine relationship" claim.

Of course, you didn't mention when your children were born, so perhaps my confusion is with the wording of your description (which made it sound as if they were born between 1990 and 2000) - if they were born AFTER you landed, then you wouldn't be barred from sponsoring them. If they were born BEFORE you landed and not declared on your application, under current law you would be barred from sponsoring them.

The downside to the approach you've taken is that in the outland sponsorship case, if they turn you down you have the right to an IAD appeal and THEY can consider humanitarian and compassionate issues. If they turn down your inland application, your only recourse will be to federal court, where they are not going to consider H&C.

I certainly hope others in the forum have more advise to give you (other than "start interviewing lawyers").
 
POLICAP said:
I have a similar case. I migrated to Canada under independent
professional category in year 2000. I became a Canadian citizen in year 2003. I was in a relationship in since 1990 that resulted into 2 kids. But the I was not married to this lady and at the same time I was responsible to financing and taken care of these kids. After I became a Canadian I went back home to married this lady under the Civil law marriage. The ceremony took place both the traditional marriage and Civil law marriage was conducted.

In 2004 I filled outland application for PR and she was refused because the VO did not believed there was a genie marriage between us. I did not appeal. In 2005, I moved to the US to work. With my US work visa, I was able to bring her and her dependent children to US. Due to US economy we moved back to Canada. I was able to get Visitor visa for 3 years. In January, 2011, I applied for Inland PR . Will I be able to sponsor her and the dependent children? Will this be a missrepresentation

Actually, our cases are not even remotely similar. I have never been in a common-law or conjugal relationship before, and I have never been married before. The only child I have is with my wife.

In any event, I called CRA and the person I spoke to said that CIC basically never contacts CRA for immigration purposes and said that it's not a problem if I haven't update my marital status. He said there is nothing to be concerned about, but he did say that when we land in Canada, we should contact them and update our status because we will be filing income tax returns in Canada, so CRA will need to know that we are married because my wife will need to file returns even if she has no income, plus we can get tax credits because we have a child.

I wish you luck with your case.

FS
 
Thanks so much for your high level professional response. I do not have time to appeal in 2005. That was when I moved to the US.

I am just waiting to see the outcome of the current inland application. About 3 weeks ago, CIC sent a letter to my wife to complete additional form IMM5285. which she already put in the mail and delivered successfully to CIC. As you have said, this is very complicated and I believed God will see me through.

Other readers of this form please your idea, suggestions and comments are highly welcome .
 
Quote from: POLICAP on March 19, 2012, 12:33:40 pm

Thanks for your advise. It's over a year now that I have submitted inland PR application. I have not received AIP. I called CIC their song never change it's always "IN PROCESS" . Please what can I do at this stage?