Looking for ways to get my sibling

[asc456]

Hi,

I have activated my PR and I am applying for jobs from my current location. I plan to move only when I land a job. In my family, I have my mother, my brother and myself. I know that for my mother, I can go through the visitor visa route when I make the move and then apply for SuperVisa once there with a job and then apply for parents PR after 3 years of tax return with the adequate income. Our family has never lived apart for more than a month at a time. The main issue right now is getting my brother to Canada when I make the move. He has a diploma and his points add up to 363 as of now. I was wondering if there is any way we can get him on PR and then he can continue his education there on OSAP. Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks

 

[scylla]

Hi,

I have activated my PR and I am applying for jobs from my current location. I plan to move only when I land a job. In my family, I have my mother, my brother and myself. I know that for my mother, I can go through the visitor visa route when I make the move and then apply for SuperVisa once there with a job and then apply for parents PR after 3 years of tax return with the adequate income. Our family has never lived apart for more than a month at a time. The main issue right now is getting my brother to Canada when I make the move. He has a diploma and his points add up to 363 as of now. I was wondering if there is any way we can get him on PR and then he can continue his education there on OSAP. Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks

You cannot sponsor your brother for PR. If he wishes to apply for PR, he will have to qualify on his own through an economic immigration stream like Express Entry. Since he doesn't have sufficient points, he could look into coming to Canada on a study permit. Of course this is an expensive option and he'll need to show $25K in savings just to have the study permit approve.

Note that it is not recommended for your mother to apply for a TRV when you are ready to move. The chance of refusal are high if you do this. She should wait until you have moved to Canada and lived there for a number of months before she applies for the TRV.

 

[asc456]

Thank you for your quick reply.

I see. I thought there was a less expensive way to bring my brother other than the study permit. And for the study permit, is it ok if I show the funds for him? I was looking for cheaper options.

How many months of waiting is recommended before my mum can apply for a TRV? What if she applied for the TRV before I moved to Canada? The issue is to not have my family away for more than a month of so. So I am trying to find the path of least resistance.

 

[Bryanna]

Hi,

I have activated my PR and I am applying for jobs from my current location. I plan to move only when I land a job. In my family, I have my mother, my brother and myself. I know that for my mother, I can go through the visitor visa route when I make the move and then apply for SuperVisa once there with a job and then apply for parents PR after 3 years of tax return with the adequate income. Our family has never lived apart for more than a month at a time. The main issue right now is getting my brother to Canada when I make the move. He has a diploma and his points add up to 363 as of now. I was wondering if there is any way we can get him on PR and then he can continue his education there on OSAP. Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks

To add to scylla's advice:
1. You cannot apply for a super visa for your mom immediately after you find a job. You will need to wait till you meet the income requirements as the host.

2. PR sponsorship for parents is only by invitation from IRCC. You would need to meet the eligibility criteria for this. You cannot apply on your own for her PR by simply having 3 years of tax assessments. You need to be selected by IRCC to apply for parent PR

 

[zardoz]

Thank you for your quick reply.

I see. I thought there was a less expensive way to bring my brother other than the study permit. And for the study permit, is it ok if I show the funds for him? I was looking for cheaper options.

How many months of waiting is recommended before my mum can apply for a TRV? What if she applied for the TRV before I moved to Canada? The issue is to not have my family away for more than a month of so. So I am trying to find the path of least resistance.

There is no cheap, quick fix for this. If your brother is still a dependent child of your mother's when/if you are eligible to sponsor her for PR then he can be added to the PR application. Until then, there is not much that YOU can do. He will need to work through the available options to come to Canada temporarily as either a visitor, student or worker.

In all probability, you WILL be separated for an extended period of time. Think at least months, possibly years.

 

[scylla]

Thank you for your quick reply.

I see. I thought there was a less expensive way to bring my brother other than the study permit. And for the study permit, is it ok if I show the funds for him? I was looking for cheaper options.

How many months of waiting is recommended before my mum can apply for a TRV? What if she applied for the TRV before I moved to Canada? The issue is to not have my family away for more than a month of so. So I am trying to find the path of least resistance.

The less expensive way to bring your brother here is for him to qualify for PR on his own through an economic immigration stream. However he doesn't have enough points for Express Entry. PNP could be an option for him if he has a Bachelor degree (or Masters). If he doesn't qualify to immigrate, then the study permit is the only realistic option right now. Yes - you can show the funds for him. You will want to show at least $40K in savings in that case (i.e. the money you need to settle in Canada as a PR, plus the additional $25K for your brother's studies). Note that when your brother applies for the study permit, he will have to demonstrate strong ties to his home country and show he has no plans on remaining in Canada long term. he should make sure his planned studies in Canada make sense in light of his previous education and work experience. The fact you now have PR in Canada will make it more difficult for him to get a study permit approved.

I would not recommend that your mother apply for a TRV now - this may make IRCC concerns you are trying to move her to Canada and has a higher chance of resulting in a refusal. Wait 6-8 months after you have moved to Canada before she applies. She will need to show strong ties to her home country in the application and demonstrate she has no plans on remaining in Canada long term (similar to your brother with the study permit).

Neither your mother nor your brother are classified as dependents for immigration purposes. When you applied for PR to Canada, you should have assumed they wouldn't be able to come with you. If you really cannot be separated from them and it's a priority to keep all three of you together - then coming to Canada may not be a realistic plan.

 

[asc456]

The less expensive way to bring your brother here is for him to qualify for PR on his own through an economic immigration stream. However he doesn't have enough points for Express Entry. PNP could be an option for him if he has a Bachelor degree (or Masters). If he doesn't qualify to immigrate, then the study permit is the only realistic option right now. Yes - you can show the funds for him. You will want to show at least $40K in savings in that case (i.e. the money you need to settle in Canada as a PR, plus the additional $25K for your brother's studies). Note that when your brother applies for the study permit, he will have to demonstrate strong ties to his home country and show he has no plans on remaining in Canada long term. he should make sure his planned studies in Canada make sense in light of his previous education and work experience. The fact you now have PR in Canada will make it more difficult for him to get a study permit approved.

I would not recommend that your mother apply for a TRV now - this may make IRCC concerns you are trying to move her to Canada and has a higher chance of resulting in a refusal. Wait 6-8 months after you have moved to Canada before she applies. She will need to show strong ties to her home country in the application and demonstrate she has no plans on remaining in Canada long term (similar to your brother with the study permit).

Neither your mother nor your brother are classified as dependents for immigration purposes. When you applied for PR to Canada, you should have assumed they wouldn't be able to come with you. If you really cannot be separated from them and it's a priority to keep all three of you together - then coming to Canada may not be a realistic plan.

Firstly, Thank you to everyone for your helpful answers.

Do you think my brother can apply for the study permit with my bank balance and job letter (from Qatar) while I reside in Qatar (Where I am a resident permit holder), which is the period before I move to Canada for good? Do you think that would be better than him applying after I move to Canada for good?

My mom will lose her residency status in Qatar as soon as I live here. So that would mean I can only apply for her from her home country after a few months of moving there.

 

[scylla]

Firstly, Thank you to everyone for your helpful answers.

Do you think my brother can apply for the study permit with my bank balance and job letter (from Qatar) while I reside in Qatar (Where I am a resident permit holder), which is the period before I move to Canada for good? Do you think that would be better than him applying after I move to Canada for good?

My mom will lose her residency status in Qatar as soon as I live here. So that would mean I can only apply for her from her home country after a few months of moving there.

This complicates things.

If your brother and mother both only have temporary status in Qatar, I would recommend they return to their home country and live there for 8+ months to establish ties before attempting to apply to Canada. As of now, it will be very difficult for either of them to show ties and this will create a high chance of refusal.

 

[asc456]

This complicates things.

If your brother and mother both only have temporary status in Qatar, I would recommend they return to their home country and live there for 8+ months to establish ties before attempting to apply to Canada. As of now, it will be very difficult for either of them to show ties and this will create a high chance of refusal.

But my stay in Qatar for another year or two won't be enough of a tie for my brother to get the student visa? I am not planning to move immediately. I am planning to show my bank statements and current job letter for the job in Qatar. And also explain why I am the sole provider after my dad has passed away.

 

[scylla]

But my stay in Qatar for another year or two won't be enough of a tie for my brother to get the student visa? I am not planning to move immediately. I am planning to show my bank statements and current job letter for the job in Qatar. And also explain why I am the sole provider after my dad has passed away.

You can try this. However a common refusal reason for study permits is lack of ties to the home country. Right now your brother's ties are quite weak. Your job isn't a tie for him and he only has temporary status there. The fact you are the sole provider isn't a tie for him either. Ties are things like your brother's own employment, property, assets. But again, he can certainly try to apply.

 

[Bryanna]

But my stay in Qatar for another year or two won't be enough of a tie for my brother to get the student visa? I am not planning to move immediately. I am planning to show my bank statements and current job letter for the job in Qatar. And also explain why I am the sole provider after my dad has passed away.

The point is that as a PR, IRCC believes that you will move to Canada permanently. You are already actively searching for jobs too. So, IRCC is not likely to accept your statement of not moving for a year or two... and it won't help your brother's study permit application nor your RO.

The first step would be for your brother to be accepted by a DLI for a suitable study program. His intended studies should be a progression of his previous academics and his work experience. Everything else is secondary at this point in time, IMO

 

[Copingwithlife]

Hi,

I have activated my PR and I am applying for jobs from my current location. I plan to move only when I land a job. In my family, I have my mother, my brother and myself. I know that for my mother, I can go through the visitor visa route when I make the move and then apply for SuperVisa once there with a job and then apply for parents PR after 3 years of tax return with the adequate income. Our family has never lived apart for more than a month at a time. The main issue right now is getting my brother to Canada when I make the move. He has a diploma and his points add up to 363 as of now. I was wondering if there is any way we can get him on PR and then he can continue his education there on OSAP. Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks

Too add, I think you’re jumping the gun on having your mother be automatically get the PR after the three years of tax returns . She’ll have to be placed into the lottery, and just hope her name is picked out of the thousands who apply
And everyone is well a where how this years lottery turned out

 

[canuck_in_uk]

Thank you for your quick reply.

I see. I thought there was a less expensive way to bring my brother other than the study permit. And for the study permit, is it ok if I show the funds for him? I was looking for cheaper options.

How many months of waiting is recommended before my mum can apply for a TRV? What if she applied for the TRV before I moved to Canada? The issue is to not have my family away for more than a month of so. So I am trying to find the path of least resistance.

There is no "path of least resistance". As explained by others, realistically, you should expect to be away from your mother for at least many months, if not years. There is no guarantee of a TRV or a Supervisa, especially with her weak ties. Parent sponsorship is a lottery that only accepts a certain amount of apps. It is extremely competitive and extremely difficult to get chosen. You could try for years and not get selected.

As for your brother, he may never qualify to immigrate, so you should be prepared for that.

If you are unable to be away from your family, you should rethink your immigration plan.