Long game fraud

[armoured]

There is in fact an immigration matter here. If OP can concretely prove that the spouse was married to someone else at the time they got married, this is major misrepresentation and means that both PR and citizenship were obtained fraudulently. Whether CBSA and IRCC pursue this is an entirely different matter. However you are very much mistaken if you really believe there is no immigration issue here.

Revocation of citizenship is possible in these circumstances.

I'd add that this may have impact on divorce proceedings - although I say that without firm legal knowledge.

 

[Kaibigan]

I'd add that this may have impact on divorce proceedings - although I say that without firm legal knowledge.

It would seem that the OP is still married to the alleged fraudster. If so, and if it can be proven that the fraudster was married already when she married the OP, then a divorce would not be the correct remedy to seek. In such case, the purported marriage to the OP was null and void from the start and there would be no marriage to dissolve by way of divorce order. Instead, the OP should seek a declaration of nullity. See, for example:


Li v. Rao C.A., Harris, Savage & Abrioux JJ.A., 2019 BCCA 265, Vancouver CA45103, July 26, 2019 , 26pp..

https://www.bccourts.ca/jdb-txt/ca/19/02/2019BCCA0265.htm

 

[armoured]

It would seem that the OP is still married to the alleged fraudster. If so, and if it can be proven that the fraudster was married already when she married the OP, then a divorce would not be the correct remedy to seek. In such case, the purported marriage to the OP was null and void from the start and there would be no marriage to dissolve by way of divorce order. Instead, the OP should seek a declaration of nullity.

I guess - in related question - that while the OP may (of course) be expected to pay support for the children, the question of marital assets, alimony and financial support is, ahem, impacted by a marriage being declared a nullity.

Obviously for the OP to speak to a lawyer about.

 

[Kaibigan]

I guess - in related question - that while the OP may (of course) be expected to pay support for the children, the question of marital assets, alimony and financial support is, ahem, impacted by a marriage being declared a nullity.

Yes, but perhaps not as much as one might think. Here's the gist of the Li v. Rao case I cited:

FAMILY LAW — Marriage — Validity • Matrimonial property — Division • MAINTENANCE — Entitlement — Claimant marrying respondent while he was married to another woman — Trial judge granting declaration of nullity, but finding claimant nevertheless entitled to claim spousal support and division of family assets under Family Law Act — Appeal court agreeing that parties to marriages which are void ab initio are included in the definition of "spouse" in the FLA.

Obviously for the OP to speak to a lawyer about.

Agreed.

 

[lilwayno]

A relationship which was founded on fraud.. Child custody is a family court matter but immigration fraud does exist and believe it or not, IRCC will investigate if they receive a tip.

OP's woman violated 16(1) and would be found inadmissible.

"Polygamous marriages are not legal in Canada and are an offence under the Criminal Code of Canada. A spouse is not a member of the family class if the spouse or sponsor was already married to another person at the time of the subsequent marriage [R117(9)(c)(i)]"

Here's how legality of marriage is assessed. Clearly can't be married and get married.
https://www.canada.ca/en/immigratio...family-class-determining-spouse/legality.html

Here's how IRCC handles the process of revocation.
https://www.canada.ca/en/immigratio...-citizenship/acquisition-loss/revocation.html

https://www.canada.ca/en/immigratio...ship/acquisition-loss/revocation-process.html

Although not directly related to OP's situation, here are some interesting cases.
Canada v Parekh
Khuong v Canada
Liang v Canada
Antony v Canada

IRCC has an obligation to Canadian public just like any other govt agency to maintain the integrity of it's programs and policies.

This is where OP needs to start: https://bwl-lsf.cbsa-asfc.cloud-nuage.canada.ca/tip-sub-en.html

It might take time, a lot of time but they will get to the bottom of it. The real question is how far is OP willing to go and what would they lose in the process. It will make things probably even more ugly and everyone will suffer including the innocent kids.

In such situations, it is also essential to use reliable payment methods to avoid scammers. I always look for them on https://magyarkaszinooldalak.com/casino/vulkan-vegas/ it is a site dedicated to games, but it only features reliable payment methods, and everything is thoroughly verified. I hope this helps.

Sounds like a complicated mess, but you explained the process well. OP should think carefully before escalating these cases, as they can become long, stressful, and painful for all involved!

 

[James Russo]

Exactly my point as well, I made a previous comment this is way way behind immigration matter and others are telling him oh CBSA will investigate lol like stop making up stupidity. This man said he has children with her and bought properties so theirs relationship was going really good, now for whatever reasons they’ve broken up and he’s son here ranting about other stuff now looking to see if he can get immigration involved is really bitter and distasteful of him. This is 100% family law not immigration.

Absolutely. The guy had 2 kids with the lady. From what he wrote, I don't see a immigration Fraud. He may be mad because she left him for another guy and now he is trying a revange hahaha