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Issues with Guatemala Visa office

Chot89

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Jan 11, 2011
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Canada
Category........
Visa Office......
Guatemala
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Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
17-09-2010
AOR Received.
14-10-2010
File Transfer...
14-10-2010
Hi everyone,

I am a canadian citizen thats married to a Panamanian and most of my family is in Panama. I have noticed that the embassy in Guatemala takes forever to process an application, even a visitors visa. I also know quite a few people that have been denied the visa for unfair reasons. I see that there are alot of people from around the world that are trying to get to Canada, but I never see anything on people trying to bring someone from Panama. I know other countries also go through the Guatemala office so the time frame and everything else is similar. Has anyone here Gone through this office?

Below is a description of what my husband and I have been going through if you would like to know. it is a bit long:

Before i was married my husband and I were together for 3 years. I traveld alot to Panama and back to be with him. He is good friends with my brother so when my brother was getting married he invited my husband to be his best man. We sent letters of invitations and we also let them know through a letter that we were covering all his expenses. His stay was only going to be for 2 weeks because of his job. He lives well in Panama and owns a house so there was no great reason for him to stay in canada, since I was willing to go back and forth, which we also stated in a letter.

After 4weeks of processing he was partially denied the visa for the following reasons: 1) not enough travel experience (yet they wont issue him a visa to be able to travel) 2) they didnt understand the reason for his visit ( yet we sent alot of proof and even a letter from the bishop that was performing the ceremony stating that he was going to be the best man at the wedding 3). Not enough money ( yet we clearly stated that all his expenses were being covered and he sent a bank statement showing he had more than 2000 dollars in his account for his 2 week stay, which in panama is alot of money, and who needs more than 2000 for 2 weeks if all your expenses are completely covered.

He was not completely denied because they asked him to send in additional documents. But of course we had to pay the fee again. I really belive they just wanted more money. So he never made it for the wedding.

We then got married a year later and I moved to panama. I lived there for 3 years but my mom is very ill with cancer so i moved back to be with her. We decided to go through the sponsership process so that we can all be together here in canada with my mom. I got a lawyer and he did all the paper work for me. Everyhing was pretty much perdect before it was sent to toronto. I got approved as a sponser a month later and recieved my letter saying that everything is fine and that he meets all the requirments to get his PR and they have all the documents and proof they need. They didnt say it exacly like that but thats what they said in other words.

His papers are now at guatemala and have been for the past 4 months. I know the wait is long but i have been trying to know the status for quite sometime and it is always unavailable. This worries me because of issues with my other family members in the past. Guatemala has lost some of their documents and they have not gotten back to them about it so therefore their application was delayed by alot. I want to know the status because i dont want this to happen. I talked to the lawyer and he told me to call my mp and request for him to send a letter asking for the status because they have done this for many of his other clients in the past.

So I contacted my mp (which would be the second time) and that was no help. When i called it wasnt the mp that answered, it was obviously someone that represents him. He told me there was no way to contact my mp and that the mp cant legally get involved in immigration issues. This is the second time I talk to this man and he has been no help at all. He says they cant request the status of the application and that I have to wait min 18 months, so the soonest I will know about my husbands paper work is maybe in march of next year. Thats bull. I dont know what that man is there for because obviously there are many people that have gotten help from their mp. But i guess they arent all the same and like to help. I clearly told him that I wasnt asking for them to help push his paperwork forward, but that I only wanted to know the status. But he was very rude and arrogant so I said nevermind.

I talked to my lawyer and he said he will send a satus request for me. He says its strange that he wont let my mp help me. I guess ill just wait to see what my lawyer says. If it takes 18 months to get a status i think ill just move back to panama and forget about this. This government is doing wrong things. Instead of helping families to be reunited fast, they split them up and ruin marriges. If his application was well done and he meets all the requirments for his PR like the letter said, than why wis it going to take more than a year to give him his visa. I think they are just scratching their asses, excuse my language.



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PMM

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Jun 30, 2005
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Chot89 said:
Hi everyone,

I am a canadian citizen thats married to a Panamanian and most of my family is in Panama. I have noticed that the embassy in Guatemala takes forever to process an application, even a visitors visa. I also know quite a few people that have been denied the visa for unfair reasons. I see that there are alot of people from around the world that are trying to get to Canada, but I never see anything on people trying to bring someone from Panama. I know other countries also go through the Guatemala office so the time frame and everything else is similar. Has anyone here Gone through this office?

Below is a description of what my husband and I have been going through if you would like to know. it is a bit long:

Before i was married my husband and I were together for 3 years. I traveld alot to Panama and back to be with him. He is good friends with my brother so when my brother was getting married he invited my husband to be his best man. We sent letters of invitations and we also let them know through a letter that we were covering all his expenses. His stay was only going to be for 2 weeks because of his job. He lives well in Panama and owns a house so there was no great reason for him to stay in canada, since I was willing to go back and forth, which we also stated in a letter.

After 4weeks of processing he was partially denied the visa for the following reasons: 1) not enough travel experience (yet they wont issue him a visa to be able to travel) 2) they didnt understand the reason for his visit ( yet we sent alot of proof and even a letter from the bishop that was performing the ceremony stating that he was going to be the best man at the wedding 3). Not enough money ( yet we clearly stated that all his expenses were being covered and he sent a bank statement showing he had more than 2000 dollars in his account for his 2 week stay, which in panama is alot of money, and who needs more than 2000 for 2 weeks if all your expenses are completely covered.

He was not completely denied because they asked him to send in additional documents. But of course we had to pay the fee again. I really belive they just wanted more money. So he never made it for the wedding.

We then got married a year later and I moved to panama. I lived there for 3 years but my mom is very ill with cancer so i moved back to be with her. We decided to go through the sponsership process so that we can all be together here in canada with my mom. I got a lawyer and he did all the paper work for me. Everyhing was pretty much perdect before it was sent to toronto. I got approved as a sponser a month later and recieved my letter saying that everything is fine and that he meets all the requirments to get his PR and they have all the documents and proof they need. They didnt say it exacly like that but thats what they said in other words.

His papers are now at guatemala and have been for the past 4 months. I know the wait is long but i have been trying to know the status for quite sometime and it is always unavailable. This worries me because of issues with my other family members in the past. Guatemala has lost some of their documents and they have not gotten back to them about it so therefore their application was delayed by alot. I want to know the status because i dont want this to happen. I talked to the lawyer and he told me to call my mp and request for him to send a letter asking for the status because they have done this for many of his other clients in the past.

So I contacted my mp (which would be the second time) and that was no help. When i called it wasnt the mp that answered, it was obviously someone that represents him. He told me there was no way to contact my mp and that the mp cant legally get involved in immigration issues. This is the second time I talk to this man and he has been no help at all. He says they cant request the status of the application and that I have to wait min 18 months, so the soonest I will know about my husbands paper work is maybe in march of next year. Thats bull. I dont know what that man is there for because obviously there are many people that have gotten help from their mp. But i guess they arent all the same and like to help. I clearly told him that I wasnt asking for them to help push his paperwork forward, but that I only wanted to know the status. But he was very rude and arrogant so I said nevermind.

I talked to my lawyer and he said he will send a satus request for me. He says its strange that he wont let my mp help me. I guess ill just wait to see what my lawyer says. If it takes 18 months to get a status i think ill just move back to panama and forget about this. This government is doing wrong things. Instead of helping families to be reunited fast, they split them up and ruin marriges. If his application was well done and he meets all the requirments for his PR like the letter said, than why wis it going to take more than a year to give him his visa. I think they are just scratching their asses, excuse my language.



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The reason the MP wouldn't send a status request is that 80% of spousal applications in Guatemala city are completed in 18 months. http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/times/perm/fc-spouses.asp So until the 18 months have passed, it is unlikely that you will or your lawyer will receive a response.
 

scylla

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Jun 8, 2010
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Toronto
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Buffalo
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App. Filed.......
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AOR Received.
19-08-2010
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28-06-2010
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01-10-2010
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05-10-2010
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05-10-2010
Chot89 -

Since you are a Canadian citizen, you can sponsor your spouse while living outside of Canada. (Although you do have to prove to the CIC that you have plans to return to Canada once the application process has been finalized.) In other words, from an immigration standpoint, there's nothing stopping you from moving back to Panama now and waiting out the processing of your husband's application there with him.

Some of the delays in processing applications can certainly be blamed on government inefficiency. However fake marriages are also to blame and the extra checks needed to weed out these applications end up negatively impacting those of us with genuine intentions.
 

Chot89

Full Member
Jan 11, 2011
24
1
Canada
Category........
Visa Office......
Guatemala
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
17-09-2010
AOR Received.
14-10-2010
File Transfer...
14-10-2010
Thanks for your comments :) . I would love to move back to Panama but the reason why I havent gone back is because my mother is very ill with stage 4 cancer and is slowly leaving us. I dont want to go to panama knowing that I can lose her at any moment. So we wanted to see if he can apply for his visitors visa but my lawyer said that there is a 10% chance they will approve him. I hate how there isnt much we can do to be togetheer. I havent seen him for a year now and its starting to get frustrating. Unfortunately I cant go visit yet because of my job so I am a pretty lonely wife right now and hes a lonely husband and who knows for how much longer. Its sucks to know that it is minimum 18 months :(
 
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jdwhite21

Guest
We just sent our application in and it will be going through that office... I certainly hope it's quicker than the 18 months it states on the website... those times are just ridiculous, I don't know they expect to keep families apart for such a long time..

Chot89 please keep me updated if you hear anything sooner... it would be good to know that it may hopefully be quicker than that. Thanks.
P.s. you scared me, we just applied for a visitor visa for my husband, I hope they don't do the same thing to us :S
 

Chot89

Full Member
Jan 11, 2011
24
1
Canada
Category........
Visa Office......
Guatemala
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
17-09-2010
AOR Received.
14-10-2010
File Transfer...
14-10-2010
Hi jdwhite21. Im sorry to scare you, but i really hope you have better luck and the visa is approved. I did get some news though. After asking my mp twice and e-mailing the visa office asking for the status of his papers, i still had no luck. But my lawyer helped me by sending a request for status to the office and I finally got one. They didnt say much but itd better than nothing. They said that they recieved his papers and medical exams on october 22 2010. Thats onlya week after the papers got sent to the office. Thats goof news to me because they dont always start looking at your papers right away. And this also means that i dont have to pay another 200$ for my husband to get his medical exams done again. I hope it goes fast. Do you have a lawyer?
 
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jdwhite21

Guest
Forgive me, I made a bit of an error, I said we had applied for the visitor visa but not quite yet... I've been getting ahead of myself alot lately, pregnancy brain haha I read on the website though that a visitor visa could go through his office in San Salvador so I don't know if we would have any better luck with that office or not???

I hope it goes fast for you too. Well it's good that they started right away and you hopefully won't have to pay again for the medicals, I hope we don't have to either. This has been an all together costly process as we have been denied on an inland application for sponsorship and are now reapplying outland. We did get a lawyer this time as we didn't have one the first time and we thought that maybe a lawyer would have better luck putting it all together for us, they're supposedly supposed to know what immigration is looking for... I sincerely hope they have better luck than we did the first time... guess we'll just have to wait and see what happens.

But I did find a website that tracks application times and it had anywhere from 5 months to 18 months for the whole process, let's hope we are both closer to the 5 months range.