Is my education enough to qualify for P.R?

[ruairi2310]

I'm a 27 year old British guy. I have a higher national diploma (HND) and a B.A Degree both from British institutions. Would this be enough points for P.R? Or would I still need to rely on my work history to make up the points?

My issue being as I lived in Canada from 2016 - 2018 for 20 months , I was working a skilled job for around 13 months kinda on and off, as the nature of the work i was doing, the hours weren't always available. So I didn't work 30 hours a week every week for 12 months, therefore I don't have 1560 hours of skilled Canadian work experience. I probably worked around 1000 hours.

In terms of UK work experience, I worked in bars and nightclubs for several years, to my understanding isn't any use in terms of PR points.

If anybody has any advice or experience it would be very much appreciated!

Thanks, good luck to everyone !!!

 

[scylla]

I'm a 27 year old British guy. I have a higher national diploma (HND) and a B.A Degree both from British institutions. Would this be enough points for P.R? Or would I still need to rely on my work history to make up the points?

My issue being as I lived in Canada from 2016 - 2018 for 20 months , I was working a skilled job for around 13 months kinda on and off, as the nature of the work i was doing, the hours weren't always available. So I didn't work 30 hours a week every week for 12 months, therefore I don't have 1560 hours of skilled Canadian work experience. I probably worked around 1000 hours.

In terms of UK work experience, I worked in bars and nightclubs for several years, to my understanding isn't any use in terms of PR points.

If anybody has any advice or experience it would be very much appreciated!

Thanks, good luck to everyone !!!

You need work experience to apply for PR - education isn't enough. Typically this means you need at least one full time skilled work experience (meaning in a NOC A, B or 0 role).

For Express Entry, you must score at least 440 points to be selected.

 

[ruairi2310]

Ok understood thanks, for taking the time to reply. Would being a bartender count as skilled work? it says in the link below 'food and beverage servers'

https://www.canada.ca/en/immigratio...ligibility/find-national-occupation-code.html

 

[scylla]

Ok understood thanks, for taking the time to reply. Would being a bartender count as skilled work? it says in the link below 'food and beverage servers'

https://www.canada.ca/en/immigratio...ligibility/find-national-occupation-code.html

No - it's not skilled. NOC 6512 is classified as C.

 

[ruairi2310]

Ok, as is a have around 420 points according to the calculator. Any recommendations how I can get over the 440 threshold ?

 

[vensak]

Ok, as is a have around 420 points according to the calculator. Any recommendations how I can get over the 440 threshold ?

Just out of curiosity, where exactly did you work while in Canada and what type of work visa did you have back then.

Another question is, if you have stated that you have work as a barman which is not skilled profession (it is not 0, A or B type) and if you did not manage to work full 1 year in Canada, how come you have calculated so many points for yourself.
No skilled work experience will not qualify you at all. And from what you have stated about your education, you would loose like good 75-90 points on transferability. So even with perfect English - CBL10 (which trust me good portion of native speakers has problems to get), you would be somewhere below 400. Of course unless you have French as well or a sibling in Canada.

 

[ruairi2310]

As prev

Just out of curiosity, where exactly did you work while in Canada and what type of work visa did you have back then.

Another question is, if you have stated that you have work as a barman which is not skilled profession (it is not 0, A or B type) and if you did not manage to work full 1 year in Canada, how come you have calculated so many points for yourself.
No skilled work experience will not qualify you at all. And from what you have stated about your education, you would loose like good 75-90 points on transferability. So even with perfect English - CBL10 (which trust me good portion of native speakers has problems to get), you would be somewhere below 400. Of course unless you have French as well or a sibling in Canada.

I was in B.C on a IEC working holiday visa (2 years for British Passport holders) I worked in the film industry as a P.A/Runner. Unfortunately, the nature of the work was I might work everyday for 2 weeks then not again for a month, and vice versa.
The link below should show the results from the online point calculator.

https://ibb.co/fCH8eq

Why would i lose points on my education? Due to transferability?

 

[ruairi2310]

Also , my 2nd cousins own a photography business in Halifax, not sure if they can be of any help if they were willing...

 

[scylla]

Note that you need at least one year of full time and continuous experience in a skilled profession to qualify for FSW / Express Entry. If you don't have the year of skilled work experience, you won't be able to apply.

 

[scylla]

Also , my 2nd cousins own a photography business in Halifax, not sure if they can be of any help if they were willing...

No help unless they can give you a job offer with an approved LMIA for a skilled job in Canada. (LMIAs are expensive and tend to be very difficult to get.)

 

[vensak]

As prev


I was in B.C on a IEC working holiday visa (2 years for British Passport holders) I worked in the film industry as a P.A/Runner. Unfortunately, the nature of the work was I might work everyday for 2 weeks then not again for a month, and vice versa.
The link below should show the results from the online point calculator.

https://ibb.co/fCH8eq

Why would i lose points on my education? Due to transferability?

Ok when it comes to points following happens:
1. you get points for education by itself
2. then you get points for English / French by itself
And then you get points again if your education and your English / French is good enough. And those are called transferability points. You can get up to 100 points
Tranferability is always combination of Language and your Education or work experience.

Now from what you have told, you will not get any bonuses for work experience in Canada. So that would leave just work experience in UK. So without any skilled work experience there, you will get 0 points for transferability (and of course you will not be able to qualify for EE). The max you could get is for 3 years of skilled work experience + Excellent English / French (CBL 9+) is 50 points

For education you can also get those 50 points but only if you have 2 post secondary school diplomas, from which 1 is for a 3 years education program and the other is at least 1 year. Or if you have a Master or PhD.
If you have 4 or 3 years bachelor, that one is 25 points max (with excellent language as well). If you have just high school, then no transferability points available.
Your case would be most likely less (something like 12 points or such - you can check for yourself).

Now people with a Master degree or 2 University diplomas that are under 30 years old and have Excellent English (or just French), can get at max somewhere around 460-470 points (with the transferability mentioned above).
And in your case, you would miss at least 75 points from transferability to begin with. Not to mention, that points for your education would be less than for a master degree.
That is why I am assuming, that you did not calculate your potential points correctly. Your points would be more likely somewhere in the range of 350-380.

And I have asked for the province because for some that would help you to get provincial nomination (for example in Manitoba). Unfortunatelly BC is a really wanted province, so they do not give a thing to anybody just because they have an old work experience there.
in case of BC you would either have to study there (they have a PNP for fresh Master graduates) or you need a really good job offer from there (your salary and your profession is the key there).

 

[ruairi2310]

Understood, the job i was working was in a skilled category, and I was continually employed , just calculated it and have 1365 hours of Canadian skilled work experience, so I take it thats useless then for use in my application?

 

[ruairi2310]

And if so, does this leave me simply being unable to apply for PR until I go get a masters or 3 years skilled experience in the UK etc?

 

[scylla]

Understood, the job i was working was in a skilled category, and I was continually employed , just calculated it and have 1365 hours of Canadian skilled work experience, so I take it thats useless then for use in my application?

Unfortunately it's not of any real use since it's less than a year.

 

[scylla]

And if so, does this leave me simply being unable to apply for PR until I go get a masters or 3 years skilled experience in the UK etc?

You need a year of full time continuous work experience. You can get the masters too. However you must have the work experience to qualify.