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AB081989

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Hi guys,

I am organizing a meeting to exchange useful information on regards to the new express entry point system - international students. The meeting will be held next Saturday Nov 12th at 11AM.

Depending on the amount of people we can get together I will figure out where the meeting is going to be; Most likely midtown or downtown, close to a subway station.

I will request that all of you bring a letter explaining your case:

- How long you have been in Canada for
- How many points you have in your express entry profile
- How many points you have in your english exam
- If you have family here
- Years of experience working
- what are your ties to Canada
- What educational credentials you have
- And any further relevant information

I will collect signatures of all of the attendees and contact information, I want to take our experiences and unfair treatment from Canada to a much higher level. The express entry system needs to be fixed and it needs to be fixed NOW.

Please sign up here. The more the better, if you can also share this with your other international students friends who are in the same situation we are, even better. Feel free to send me an email to my organizer email so we can communicate on regards to the meeting.

Thank you,
Amanda Briceno
internationalstudentsorganizer@gmail.com
 
What's your next plan after collect signatures of all of the attendees and contact information?
 
Write up a letter, get CP24 for coverage and protest to get the word out there, you know they have to fix the system, different political party and so on, but we can't wait for ever
anyways sharing is caring
 
I dont know why the goverment has taken so long to fix this issue with you guys. But it is good to see you are doing something about it cuz it is not fair :(
 
Also you can sign this petition

https://petitions.parl.gc.ca/en/Petition/Details?Petition=e-572
 
AB081989 said:
you know they have to fix the system

They DO NOT have to fix the system, although they should. That's it. Who are we? who are you? we are not Canadian citizens. You paid for your education and you got the degree. What is the unfair treatment here?

They only propose changes to benefit the international students because the education industry asks them to. This kind of protest only garners negative ideas from the young Canadians who also are unemployed.
 
Alexios07 said:
They DO NOT have to fix the system, although they should. That's it. Who are we? who are you? we are not Canadian citizens. You paid for your education and you got the degree. What is the unfair treatment here?

They only propose changes to benefit the international students because the education industry asks them to. This kind of protest only garners negative ideas from the young Canadians who also are unemployed.

international students had a higher change of become PR before EE . i know we are not canadians and i am not a student either, and i am not putting anybody first in line but apparently the new goverment sees that these international graduates are important to the point where they agreed to revise the EE system and promised to provide them additional points, they could be lying and that could've been just another campaing promise but they brought to the surface and everything indicates that the international graduates situation right now is one of the main reasons behind the revision fo EE entry. those are not my words, those are the government's words, they say in every meeting related to this topic that these graduates are an important key in the canadian economy , so im just expressing my sympathy to the facts i consider unfair. sorry if you understood otherwise. good luck to all in this canadian journey. :-*
 
yhome said:
Also you can sign this petition

https://petitions.parl.gc.ca/en/Petition/Details?Petition=e-572

This petition is only open to Canadian citizen or PR.
 
mikko008 said:
This petition is only open to Canadian citizen or PR.

For how long this government would be in listening mode.
 
betty44 said:
international students had a higher change of become PR before EE . i know we are not canadians and i am not a student either, and i am not putting anybody first in line but apparently the new goverment sees that these international graduates are important to the point where they agreed to revise the EE system and promised to provide them additional points, they could be lying and that could've been just another campaing promise but they brought to the surface and everything indicates that the international graduates situation right now is one of the main reasons behind the revision fo EE entry. those are not my words, those are the government's words, they say in every meeting related to this topic that these graduates are an important key in the canadian economy , so im just expressing my sympathy to the facts i consider unfair. sorry if you understood otherwise. good luck to all in this canadian journey. :-*

Yes they really are one of the key of the Canadian economy - meaning that they are good and valued clients of the whole Education Industry in the country. However same, as Canada will not start giving away citizenships to all users of canadian gas, cars, furniture or maple syrup, just because they buy lot of it, they will not hand it over to anybody that has enough Money to pay studies.
The big advantage of international students is the networking that they have on the spot (and many of them use it very effectively). Other advantages were described above.

I do understand, some that now face too low score below ITA, came for studies in 2010 or 2011, when the system was much easier and studies over there were practicaly ticket to the PR. System has changed in the mean time (thats life), and for them to react on the changes.
 
vensak said:
Yes they really are one of the key of the Canadian economy - meaning that they are good and valued clients of the whole Education Industry in the country. However same, as Canada will not start giving away citizenships to all users of canadian gas, cars, furniture or maple syrup, just because they buy lot of it, they will not hand it over to anybody that has enough Money to pay studies.
The big advantage of international students is the networking that they have on the spot (and many of them use it very effectively). Other advantages were described above.

I do understand, some that now face too low score below ITA, came for studies in 2010 or 2011, when the system was much easier and studies over there were practicaly ticket to the PR. System has changed in the mean time (thats life), and for them to react on the changes.

The government proposal seem to be fair by awarding high bonus points the higher the level of education because in the past/pre-express entry, many engage in low level course for 2 years, just for the sake of getting 3-year post-graduate work permit, work for 1 year in Canada in any NOC, except NOC C and get easy route to PR.

The express entry reforms will appear to fair and remedy the situation, by for instance awarding more bonus points to say, 1-year Master degree or professional degree instead of a 2-year diploma in non-professional degree field.

Many institutions has been abusing the system by tailoring 1-year course to become 2 years in duration.
 
McCallum could have mentioned how much bonus points so that people could have made their plans for the future, whether to continue considering Canada.
 
Indeed, if there is a easy/guaranteed route to become a PR through education, don't you think that it will become a scam? Does education in itself becomes a merit to be a PR. Education with experience makes the difference. That is where is the CEC. It does provide additional points for the Canadian experience.

Does it really makes a difference that students invested the amount by selecting the Canadian University? Was there a promise made by Canadian Universities that they will make them a PR?
 
This way visitor visiting Canada would also be demanding PR....somehow they have also invested in Canada by staying in Canada for few days to weeks.....bought local goods....contributed to local economy....and so on....
 
Pawshi said:
Indeed, if there is a easy/guaranteed route to become a PR through education, don't you think that it will become a scam? Does education in itself becomes a merit to be a PR. Education with experience makes the difference. That is where is the CEC. It does provide additional points for the Canadian experience.

Does it really makes a difference that students invested the amount by selecting the Canadian University? Was there a promise made by Canadian Universities that they will make them a PR?

You are wrong. In fact, in some provinces like Québec only studies almost guarantee PR because you are eligible to apply directly under separate stream without any work experience requirement. So I don't think it will be a scam. Further, Canadian work experience presently awards more points than foreign work experience; thus I don't see where the issue is as it can be inferred CEC are already attributed more points for Canadian work experience.

The problem is that it is not the same thing for education as Canadian education and foreign ones are given the same amount of points. It should have been more as is presently the case for work experience.