Inland vs Outland (OHIP and Travel)

[FT6]

Hello,

Some input would be greatly appreciated.

Our Situation

Sponsor - PR
Spouse - American Passport

- My spouse and I live together in Toronto and are planning to have a child soon (get pregnant within 6-12 months).
- For that, we want to have a valid Ontario Health card (OHIP) for the both of us. Fastest way for my spouse to get the OHIP would be through SOWP after AOR.
- Also, both of our families reside outside of Canada, so we want to visit them every 9-12 months for 3-6 weeks.

Questions

1. I believe I have seen threads about Family Class Outland applicants (inside Canada) applying for their SOWP after getting their AOR. Is that possible?
- this would give us the ease to travel and get the OHIP
2. Is applying Family Class Inland the only way to get an SOWP and/or OHIP?
- if not, what are some other methods?

Thanks so much!

 

[canuck78]

Hello,

Some input would be greatly appreciated.

Our Situation

Sponsor - PR
Spouse - American Passport

- My spouse and I live together in Toronto and are planning to have a child soon (get pregnant within 6-12 months).
- For that, we want to have a valid Ontario Health card (OHIP) for the both of us. Fastest way for my spouse to get the OHIP would be through SOWP after AOR.
- Also, both of our families reside outside of Canada, so we want to visit them every 9-12 months for 3-6 weeks.

Questions

1. I believe I have seen threads about Family Class Outland applicants (inside Canada) applying for their SOWP after getting their AOR. Is that possible?
- this would give us the ease to travel and get the OHIP
2. Is applying Family Class Inland the only way to get an SOWP and/or OHIP?
- if not, what are some other methods?

Thanks so much!

1. Yes now possible
-believe you can now get OHIP after AOR. You need to make sure you can meet the residency requirement for OHIP when you apply so must be in Ontario for the first 5 out of 6 months (exact days are on the website) as well as other residency requirements.
2. Not anymore

 

[FT6]

1. Yes now possible
-believe you can now get OHIP after AOR. You need to make sure you can meet the residency requirement for OHIP when you apply so must be in Ontario for the first 5 out of 6 months (exact days are on the website) as well as other residency requirements.
2. Not anymore

Thanks for your response!

So I was looking at who is eligible for OHIP here: https://www.ontario.ca/page/apply-ohip-and-get-health-card
It mentions that the individual must have a valid work permit and be working for at least 6 months. So an AOR and SOWP is not enough? An AIP or 6 months working experience is required.

 

[canuck78]

Thanks for your response!

So I was looking at who is eligible for OHIP here: https://www.ontario.ca/page/apply-ohip-and-get-health-card
It mentions that the individual must have a valid work permit and be working for at least 6 months. So an AOR and SOWP is not enough? An AIP or 6 months working experience is required.

As soon as you get sponsor approval you should qualify based on new rules.

“are applying for permanent residence in Canada and:
have submitted an application to Immigration, Refugees and Citizenship Canada (IRCC) and
IRCC has confirmed they have reviewed the application and that you meet the eligibility requirements to apply (see document requirements) ”

 

[FT6]

As soon as you get sponsor approval you should qualify based on new rules.

“are applying for permanent residence in Canada and:
have submitted an application to Immigration, Refugees and Citizenship Canada (IRCC) and
IRCC has confirmed they have reviewed the application and that you meet the eligibility requirements to apply (see document requirements) ”

Yeah that's what I meant by AIP is required, "have reviewed the application and that you meet the eligibility requirements to apply ".

 

[canuck78]

Yeah that's what I meant by AIP is required, "have reviewed the application and that you meet the eligibility requirements to apply ".

That is not AIP. That is AOR or sponsor eligibility approval.

 

[FT6]

That is not AIP. That is AOR or sponsor eligibility approval.

Oh I see. Thanks for your help!

 

[waffles514]

sorry to jump in, but I want to clarify, I don't think this is correct.

It is AIP that they are asking for I am fairly sure, not AOR or sponsor eligibility approval, unless @canuck78 if you're able to link to these new rules you're mentioning in which case I apologize!!

Context:
(I, the sponsor = Canadian citizen, PA = American citizen common law partner, inland application, applied July 2024 and just wrapped up a month ago)
From our experience having applied for OHIP for my partner in September of last year the second we got AIP:

- Only the AIP has the wording that OHIP is looking for, since AIP literally says "It has been determined that you meet the eligibility requirements to apply for permanent residence as a member of the spouse or common-law partner in Canada class."

- the AOR received as the sponsor has no language whatsoever to imply that my partner was eligible. Unless this is different for outland applications, I do not think this can qualify you for OHIP.

- they are very strict on this, the person at ServiceOntario basically told me they have a list of documents that they are allowed to accept. I actually had to point out the section on the pamphlet for OHIP eligibility and the individual actually had to call and confirm with someone at their own helpdesk that AIP was acceptable. i'm fairly certain AOR and sponsor eligibility do not fall on this list (nor are they even addressed to the principal applicant but rather the sponsor).

- there's a few threads on Canadavisa that affirm this

Hope this helps. Not trying to add confusion, and glad to step back if I see more evidence about the new rules that were mentioned!

 

[canuck78]

sorry to jump in, but I want to clarify, I don't think this is correct.

It is AIP that they are asking for I am fairly sure, not AOR or sponsor eligibility approval, unless @canuck78 if you're able to link to these new rules you're mentioning in which case I apologize!!

Context:
(I, the sponsor = Canadian citizen, PA = American citizen common law partner, inland application, applied July 2024 and just wrapped up a month ago)
From our experience having applied for OHIP for my partner in September of last year the second we got AIP:

- Only the AIP has the wording that OHIP is looking for, since AIP literally says "It has been determined that you meet the eligibility requirements to apply for permanent residence as a member of the spouse or common-law partner in Canada class."

- the AOR received as the sponsor has no language whatsoever to imply that my partner was eligible. Unless this is different for outland applications, I do not think this can qualify you for OHIP.

- they are very strict on this, the person at ServiceOntario basically told me they have a list of documents that they are allowed to accept. I actually had to point out the section on the pamphlet for OHIP eligibility and the individual actually had to call and confirm with someone at their own helpdesk that AIP was acceptable. i'm fairly certain AOR and sponsor eligibility do not fall on this list (nor are they even addressed to the principal applicant but rather the sponsor).

- there's a few threads on Canadavisa that affirm this

Hope this helps. Not trying to add confusion, and glad to step back if I see more evidence about the new rules that were mentioned!

Used to be AIP believe it changed either this year or last year. Would go to a large Service Ontario since many are not familiar with spouses being sponsored. It was changed because when spouses were more easily able to enter Ontario during sponsorship many didn’t realize they wouldn’t have access to medical care. This caused a lot of problems especially around pregnancy.