Inland v Outland

[Buda01]

Hey,

I'm trying to get my head around the fact that now processing times between inland (34 months) and outland (11 months) are spread by almost two years. Can you guys make of a logical reason for this? Are these actual processing times?

What makes IRCC prioritize people outside Canada instead of those in, and viceversa?

This is not against one or the other, I'm trying to understand why this happens. At some point those who applied for inland should withdraw their applications, stay in Canada, and apply for Outland?

Cheers,

 

[armoured]

I'm trying to get my head around the fact that now processing times between inland (34 months) and outland (11 months) are spread by almost two years. Can you guys make of a logical reason for this? Are these actual processing times?

What makes IRCC prioritize people outside Canada instead of those in, and viceversa?

Leaving aside Quebec files (which are slow for a different reason), many of us think these big differences are not factual and there's some data glitch or other factor that's causing this. No way to know right now.

This COULD happen if, for example, they had some backlog of older files that were causing some problem/substantially delayed from about three years ago, and they're getting cleared / finalized now. Only a theory though.

If that theory is true, the 30+ month number might fall dramatically in a few more months.

Or it could be wrong and there are other reasons. One plausible reason COULD be if the files from outside Canada are substantially different in some way we don't know about - like a surprisingly large number from countries with security issues - country specific factors.

In the interim, hypothesizing about "IRCC prioritizing" some over the other is silly.

 

[Buda01]

Leaving aside Quebec files (which are slow for a different reason), many of us think these big differences are not factual and there's some data glitch or other factor that's causing this. No way to know right now.

This COULD happen if, for example, they had some backlog of older files that were causing some problem/substantially delayed from about three years ago, and they're getting cleared / finalized now. Only a theory though.

If that theory is true, the 30+ month number might fall dramatically in a few more months.

Or it could be wrong and there are other reasons. One plausible reason COULD be if the files from outside Canada are substantially different in some way we don't know about - like a surprisingly large number from countries with security issues - country specific factors.

In the interim, hypothesizing about "IRCC prioritizing" some over the other is silly.

I completely agree on your point of view. I also add the fact that files inland are probably process by less processing power than those outside, usually processed by independent private companies contracted by the Canadian government, or more efficient centres.

Anyway, I'm just trying to get a little bit more hopeful, we have been chasing the carrot in regards of processing times and it's getting further and further away.

 

[canuck78]

I completely agree on your point of view. I also add the fact that files inland are probably process by less processing power than those outside, usually processed by independent private companies contracted by the Canadian government, or more efficient centres.

Anyway, I'm just trying to get a little bit more hopeful, we have been chasing the carrot in regards of processing times and it's getting further and further away.

If anything inland would be more efficient because there is more contracting Outland and you receive eCOPR so decreases processing requirement.

 

[armoured]

I think biggest obvious difference is that inland by def includes those who have already had some form of clearance by ircc or from visa waiver countries. Hence the pool of applicants skews to lower secoery and other background risk and some associated (eg good secoery coop with visa waiver nationals). Outland apps will have some of these but fewer.

So simply put: the pools of applicants are different, and processing times (average) should be, too. (That said, not 24 months difference - hence i still think some kind of anomaly).

The important test is this: would a similar risk applicant (eg visa waiver country and other charateristics) have a similar processing time via inland and outland? My guess is comparable.

But I don't know. This would require actual data to statistically sort like to like. (And some esp outland would have no comps in inland group)