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smishsmash

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Apr 3, 2011
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Victoria, BC
Visa Office......
Vegreville
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
July 12, 2010
Doc's Request.
May 9, 2011
AOR Received.
Sept 20, 2010 started processing
Hi everyone,

I am from the US and my husband is a Canadian citizen. I am stressing out because I applied for PR and my app was received on July 15, 2010. I haven't heard anything from CIC still! I'm at 9.5 months right now and their website still says they're processing from May 25, 2010 (which it has said for a few weeks). I am at the end of my rope and the bottom of my savings account. The call centre keeps telling me that it is perfectly normal and to relax, but everyone I have talked to says that usually you receive your work permit in 4-6 months. I still don't have anything besides a year long visitors permit. Anyone else going through this? What could be wrong here?

all of my paperwork- med exam, background checks, etc have been submitted as well.
 
This is completely normal. You're at 8.5 months right now. You should be hearing something within the next month. Have you taken a look at the inlander thread. You will see that noone from July 2010 has gotten approval in principle yet. Hang in a little longer. You're not alone and still within the listed processing times.
 
I too, am an American and married to a Canadian. We applied inland as well.
Our application was received on July 16, 2010 so I would like to know how you have been waiting a month longer than me when I have been waiting 8 months 2 weeks and 4 days? Lol.

Please come join us over at the "Inland Applications 2010" thread. We can help you more over there.
You should be waiting another month and a half if wait times don't increase.

P.S. Inland applicant's do not receive anything from CIC until they make a decision on AIP at which time they will send out a letter.
That will be 9-10 months (more likely 10 months) from the time Vegreville received your application.
 
smishsmash said:
The call centre keeps telling me that it is perfectly normal and to relax, but everyone I have talked to says that usually you receive your work permit in 4-6 months.

The 4-6 months you've heard people referring is likely for applications submitted Outland. Applications submitted Inland (like yours) have different processing times. As KelKel and Love_Young have said, your timelines are perfectly normal and there's nothing to worry about.
 
The Call Center and local office people always say 4-6 months for first stage on inland aps - that's what they told us, too, back in 2006 when first stage processing was at 9-10 months, as it is now. They're hopelessly outdated and they don't care. The inland processing timeline can be found here - CPC-Vegreville is currently assessing for first stage applications received through May 25, 2010. It's unfortunate that you both chose to apply inland for a US citizen applicant - it frustrates me when US applicants don't get the proper info to understand that inland is not in their best interest. Had you applied outland, you'd be close to done by now. Hopefully your spouses have documented temporary status and you included extension applications with the inland PR aps - otherwise, you're going to wait a whole lot longer than 9-10 months for first stage approval.
 
RobsLuv said:
The Call Center and local office people always say 4-6 months for first stage on inland aps - that's what they told us, too, back in 2006 when first stage processing was at 9-10 months, as it is now. They're hopelessly outdated and they don't care. The inland processing timeline can be found here - CPC-Vegreville is currently assessing for first stage applications received through May 25, 2010. It's unfortunate that you both chose to apply inland for a US citizen applicant - it frustrates me when US applicants don't get the proper info to understand that inland is not in their best interest. Had you applied outland, you'd be close to done by now. Hopefully your spouses have documented temporary status and you included extension applications with the inland PR aps - otherwise, you're going to wait a whole lot longer than 9-10 months for first stage approval.

Hey RobsLuv, I sent you a PM. Hope you don't mind, I am just more able to describe our personal situation that regarded us applying inland than on here. Thanks.
 
They were processing applications received as May 25, 2010, they just changed that on Wednesday, it was showing the May 16th before that. I applied June 18. I still haven't heard anything either, except for us to update my spouses info. Try to relax a bit. I know it's hard but we are all waiting. Have you tried logging into e-cas? A lot of us were able to log in last Thursday. It may relieve your anxiety a bit. Come join us over in the inland 2010 thread. It's a really good thread.
 
Thank you everyone- this does give me some peice of mind! I still can't login to eCas and not sure why...???

@RobsLuv: in response to what you said :
"Hopefully your spouses have documented temporary status and you included extension applications with the inland PR aps - otherwise, you're going to wait a whole lot longer than 9-10 months for first stage approval."

My husband is canadian, so what do you mean by "documented temporary status" and the extension applications? I have a one year visitor visa- what other extension applications are you referring to?

Thanks again all-
 
Love_Young said:
Hey RobsLuv, I sent you a PM. Hope you don't mind, I am just more able to describe our personal situation that regarded us applying inland than on here. Thanks.
I'm not offended or frustrated with you for applying inland. As you say, you did your research and - considering your circumstances - you did absolutely the right thing for your situation. The main reason that I discourage US applicants from automatically applying inland (thinking they have to when they are staying in Canada) is that normally US citizens are not documented when they enter Canada. Applying inland without having been given documented temporary status on entry to Canada is disasterous. Someone who can't prove when they entered the country can't prove that they still have legal temporary status - and that means that, after waiting 9-10 months for first stage approval - their case, instead, will be transferred to their local CIC office for processing . . . only because there is no proof included with the application of their status in Canada. Local offices in areas where there is a high influx of immigrants are always very busy - in the greater GTA of Ontario, for example, the wait time for first stage approval on a transferred inland application is about two years. Calgary's wait time is comparable to that, and I expect it's not much less in Vancouver.

Again, the advisability of applying inland vs outland is about a lot of things - the least of which is where the applicant is located (other than the fact that the applicant has to be in Canada to apply inland). But temporary status is HUGE. It's important to remember that this inland spousal process was initially created, I believe, for two reasons: to help streamline spousal sponsorships for applicants who were already in Canada as workers, students, etc., and who'd met someone and married while here . . . and to help identify and process people who have come to Canada in the past and have let their status expire - either because they found themselves in relationship with a Canadian, or for other reasons and then they got into relationship with a Canadian so they wouldn't have to leave. So it's important to work within the parameters of the process - understanding CIC's reasons for having it in the first place - so that applicants don't get backed into a corner regretting having gone that route.
smishsmash said:
Thank you everyone- this does give me some peice of mind! I still can't login to eCas and not sure why...???

@ RobsLuv: in response to what you said :
"Hopefully your spouses have documented temporary status and you included extension applications with the inland PR aps - otherwise, you're going to wait a whole lot longer than 9-10 months for first stage approval."

My husband is canadian, so what do you mean by "documented temporary status" and the extension applications? I have a one year visitor visa- what other extension applications are you referring to?
Sorry - my mistake for not going back and re-reading the original thread to see that the poster was the applicant in both cases. Yesterday was a long day! So let me just clear up any misunderstanding.

What I was referring to was the temporary status given to the foreign national applicant (you) on entry to Canada. It sounds like you were given a one-year visitor permit - so hopefully you knew to include an extension to that visitor permit with your inland PR application so that they will know you're here legally, and you can benefit from "implied status" to remain in Canada, regardless of how long it takes them to get to first stage approval of your PR application. The details about this are included with the inland applicant's guide under Part II, Your Status in Canada. If you have documented temporary status, you can apply to change that status (usually to an open work permit) WITH the inland PR application - as long as both are submitted together and received before your temporary status expires - and that protects you from them thinking (when they finally get around to assessing your PR ap) that you are out of status, and then transferring you to a local office.

You can apply separately from the inland PR ap to keep your visitor status valid - just be sure you include proof that you have submitted a PR application (a copy of the receipt for the PR fees paid and maybe a copy of your proof of receipt of the application at Vegreville should be sufficient). But under that scenario, I don't know how CPC-V knows, when they open your inland PR ap, that you are still in status. The right hand never seems to know what the left is doing.

If you didn't include an extension ap with your inland PR ap, PM me and we'll talk about what you might be able to do to rectify that.
 
smishsmash said:
Thank you everyone- this does give me some peice of mind! I still can't login to eCas and not sure why...???

Have you tried logging in today? on the 31st a whole bunch of us were able to log in. What are you using to log in maybe we can help :)
 
I could login today! whew hooo! I wasn't sure if it would be under my maiden name or my married name- since I've changed it while this process has been happening- but it's under my maiden name. It was received July 15, started on september 20, and then this message: "We received the requested information on March 31, 2011. Thank you for providing the information." I'm not sure what information they're referring to here- new address, phone? I never received a letter from them asking for anything. Hmmm...
@robsluv- I think I will be ok on the extensions because I did 1) have proof of when I entered the country 2) I left the country before my visitor status expired and when I re-entered (in december of 2010) they gave me the one year extended visa. So that visa is good until late november of 2011 and my PR should go through by then...??? I had some issues with the OWP and I don't know what will happen there- I was confused about that process and was told by a call centre agent that there was no difference between applying on-line or by paper, so I applied online, paid my $150, and of course was denied a work permit because my paperwork hadn't been acknowledged yet (still hasn't!). So I submitted my OWP separate from my application explaining this situation and basically have my fingers crossed that they're merciful. My guess is that I'll be paying another $150 and waiting another 6 weeks for the work permit, but my fingers are crossed for otherwise.
thanks again for all the info!
 
smishsmash said:
I could login today! whew hooo! I wasn't sure if it would be under my maiden name or my married name- since I've changed it while this process has been happening- but it's under my maiden name. It was received July 15, started on september 20, and then this message: "We received the requested information on March 31, 2011. Thank you for providing the information." I'm not sure what information they're referring to here- new address, phone? I never received a letter from them asking for anything. Hmmm...
@ robsluv- I think I will be ok on the extensions because I did 1) have proof of when I entered the country 2) I left the country before my visitor status expired and when I re-entered (in december of 2010) they gave me the one year extended visa. So that visa is good until late november of 2011 and my PR should go through by then...??? I had some issues with the OWP and I don't know what will happen there- I was confused about that process and was told by a call centre agent that there was no difference between applying on-line or by paper, so I applied online, paid my $150, and of course was denied a work permit because my paperwork hadn't been acknowledged yet (still hasn't!). So I submitted my OWP separate from my application explaining this situation and basically have my fingers crossed that they're merciful. My guess is that I'll be paying another $150 and waiting another 6 weeks for the work permit, but my fingers are crossed for otherwise.
thanks again for all the info!


That's awesome, very happy for you, it probably gives you piece of mind now. Did you notice they jumped 12 days for processing. They are working on app's received June 6th, 2010. They are really motoring now :)
 
Hi smishsmash,

I just found this post from you and you said that it was received on July 15. Was it received on July 10 or July 15?


Hi everyone,

I am from the US and my husband is a Canadian citizen. I am stressing out because I applied for PR and my app was received on July 15, 2010. I haven't heard anything from CIC still! I'm at 9.5 months right now and their website still says they're processing from May 25, 2010 (which it has said for a few weeks). I am at the end of my rope and the bottom of my savings account. The call centre keeps telling me that it is perfectly normal and to relax, but everyone I have talked to says that usually you receive your work permit in 4-6 months. I still don't have anything besides a year long visitors permit. Anyone else going through this? What could be wrong here?

all of my paperwork- med exam, background checks, etc have been submitted as well.