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Impact of criminal offense on my citizenship application

heart_of_skies

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Actually I will complete my stay requirements in Canada on 27 September 2013, however there was one unfortunate incidence that took place this month. Me, my wife along with kids was shopping and due to some augment/fight with wife, I went outside with shopping trolley expecting my wife to call me from my back but I held and charged by the security in a store for shoplifting (850 dollars), which was completely unintentional as we were shopping for my son's birthday which was due in 4 days, religious festival which was due in 7 days, parents are coming on visit visa and inviting some guest on dinner. Store security called cops and they have asked me to appear in court with two offense

1) Theft under $5000

2) Possession of stolen goods under $5000

I still have not been charged and I have to appear in court on 13 September. Tomorrow 30 August I have to go to give my finger prints.

I have hire a lawyer, he will go with me on 13 September and see the evidence what other party submitted and then he will decide what to do. He is saying, my options are...

1- Depend upon the store evidence he will fight the case.

2- He will try to get deal if fighting the case is not important.

3- After the deal they will put me in some program where I have to attend 10 hours of education I guess.

Please advise what should I do?

Other questions I have are...

Can I still apply for my citizenship after 27 September 2013?

My unfortunate act qualifies as indictable (criminal) offence? as per any of the following clauses,

You cannot become a citizen if you:
•have been convicted of an indictable (criminal) offence or an offence under the Citizenship Act in the three years before you applied;
•are currently charged with an indictable offence or an offence under the Citizenship Act;

This is very urgent, and anyone having idea on such a case could kindly help. I would really appreciate that.
 

zardoz

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I suspect that this will at the very least, delay your ability to apply for citizenship.
I don't understand the requirement to go to court if you have not been charged.
That makes no sense... The whole point of court is to answer charges.
 

heart_of_skies

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Reason for going I think is court will decide that I'd be charge or not then they will start the proceeding accordingly. Its my guess I am not sure. Any other senior please?
 

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http://www.torontoshopliftinglawyer.ca/theftunder5000.htm seems to explain the process. http://www.torontoshopliftinglawyer.ca/criminalcode.htm indicates that the offences are not always indictable because of the "less than $5000". So, it may not affect your citizenship application in the long term. http://www.torontoshopliftinglawyer.ca/shopliftingimmigration.htm gives details on this.
 

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I believe that they are hybrid offences and the Crown can choose which path to take. Above $5000 it becomes automatically indictable.
 

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In Canada summary offences are usually referred to as summary conviction offences. Summary conviction offences are considered less serious than indictable offences because they are punishable by shorter prison sentences and smaller fines. These offences appear both in the federal laws of Canada and in the legislation of Canada’s provinces and territories. For summary conviction offences that fall under the jurisdiction of the federal government, section 787 of the Criminal Code of Canada specifies that, unless another punishment is provided for by law, the maximum penalty for a summary conviction offence is a sentence of 6 months of imprisonment, a fine of $5000 or both. Section 786 of the Code has a statute that prohibits persons from being tried for a summary conviction offence more than 6 months after the offence was committed unless both the prosecutor and defendant agree otherwise.

CATEGORIES OF CRIMINAL OFFENCES
The main categories of criminal offences in Canada are summary conviction offences and indictable offences.

A summary offence is a criminal act that can be proceeded with summarily, without the right to a jury trial and/or indictment (required for an indictable offence).
An indictable offence is an offence which can only be tried on an indictment after a preliminary hearing to determine whether there is a prima facie case to answer or by a grand jury (in contrast to a summary offence). In trials for indictable offences, the accused normally has the right to a jury trial, unless he or she waives that right.
SUMMARY CONVICTION OFFENCES
Generally speaking summary offences are less serious and indictable offences are more serious. Many offences can be prosecuted as either a summary offence or an indictable offence — the Crown prosecutor makes this choice. These offences are called dual offences or hybrid offences. Usually, Crown prosecutors prosecute the less serious of these as summary conviction offences, but they may choose to treat them as more serious indictable offences when, for example, the accused person has a criminal record or where the circumstances make the crime more serious. Court procedures and possible sentences vary according to the category of the criminal offence.

“Summary” means in a quick and simple manner. A judge hears summary conviction cases in provincial court. There is no choice of court, and the accused does not have a right to a jury trial. Usually, a person charged with a summary conviction offence is not arrested, but given a notice to appear in court on a certain date at a certain time. The person must be charged within six months of the offence. After this time a person cannot be charged with a summary conviction offence.

INDICTABLE OFFENCES
Indictable offences are more serious crimes than summary conviction offences. There is more than one procedure for indictable offences. The procedure that applies depends on the seriousness of the offence. Some indictable offences must be tried by a provincial court judge. No jury trial is available for these offences. A number of very serious indictable offences, such as murder, must be tried by a judge and jury, unless both the Attorney General and the accused person agree to a trial without a jury. For all other indictable offences, the Criminal Code gives the accused person a choice, called an election. In these cases the accused person can choose to be tried by a provincial court judge, by a superior court judge, or a superior court judge and jury. A person charged with an indictable offence must personally show up in court. He or she may represent him or herself or be represented by a lawyer. There is no limitation period for indictable offences. This means that the police can charge a person years after the offence occurred.

DIFFERENCE BETWEEN SUMMARY CONVICTION OFFENCES & INDICTABLE OFFENCES
As a matter of practical effect, some common differences between summary conviction and indictable offences are provided below.

Summary Conviction Offences

Accused must be charged with a summary conviction within 6 months after the act happened. Note that the statute of limitations does not apply to the Criminal Code. Limitation periods are set out in the Criminal Code directly.
The police can arrest under summary conviction without an arrest warrant notwithstanding s. 495(2)(c) of the Criminal Code.
Accused does not have to submit fingerprints when charged under Summary Conviction.
Appeals of summary conviction offences go first to the highest trial court within the jurisdiction.
After Ontario Superior Court a further appeal would go to the Ontario Court of Appeal, and then finally to the Supreme Court of Canada, but as a practical matter very few summary convictions are ever heard by the Supreme Court of Canada.
Accused convicted under summary conviction are eligible for an automatic pardon after 3 years provided the accused is not convicted of any further offences during that period.
Almost always heard first in a provincial court (although some exceptions apply, such as a summary conviction offence included for trial with an indictable offence).
Indictable offences

There is no time limit to when charges can be laid, e.g. an accused can be charged 20 years after an act has occurred. The exception to this point is treason, which has a 3-year limitation period.
Police do require a warrant to arrest under an indictable offence.
Accused has to submit fingerprints when required to appear to answer to an indictable offence.
Appeals always go to the Provincial Court of Appeal first, and then on to the Supreme Court of Canada.
Accused convicted under an indictable offence can apply for pardon after 5 years.
LEVELS OF COURT
In Canada, provincial court systems are divided into provincial courts and superior courts. Provincial courts may include special youth courts. All criminal cases begin in provincial court and most are dealt with there. More serious matters may be heard in a superior court. Superior courts include a trial court or division, as well as an appeal court or division. Criminal matters that will be dealt with at the superior court level must first have a preliminary inquiry in provincial court to ensure there is sufficient evidence to proceed to trial.

A person charged with a summary conviction offence does not have to appear in court personally. A lawyer or an agent may appear in court on that person’s behalf, unless the judge asks the person charged to appear in person. An agent may be a friend or relative or a person hired to appear in court. The maximum punishment is a fine of $2,000 and/or a jail term of up to 6 months, except for a few specified offences, for example sexual assault where the maximum jail sentence is 18 months. Very few offences in the Criminal Code are only summary conviction offences, although many dual offences end up being prosecuted as summary conviction offences.

SUMMARY CONVICTION OFFENCES
Charge Section of Criminal Code
Assisting a deserter Section 54 & 56
Engaging in a prize fight Section 83
Possession of a weapon in public Section 89
Impersonating a peace officer Section 130
Advising reward/immunity Section 143
Disorderly conduct Section 173
Indecent acts, public or private Section 173
Public exposure Section 173 (2)
Public nudity Section 174
Causing disturbance, indecent exhibition, loitering, etc. Section 175
Disturbing religious worship or certain meetings Section 176 (2)
Trespassing at night Section 177
Offensive volatile substance Section 178
Vagrancy Section 179
Keeping a gaming or betting house Section 201
Being found at or being a landlord or tenant of a common bawdy-house Section 210
Being found at or being a landlord or tenant of a common bawdy-house Section 210
Transporting a person to a bawdy-house Section 211
Procuring or soliciting prostitution (accused stopping vehicles or pedestrians) Section 213
Unauthorized use of a bodily substance Section 258.1
Theft valued under $5,000 Section 322 & 334
Taking a motor vehicle or vessel or found therein without consent Section 335
Fraudulently obtaining food, beverage or accommodation Section 364
Pretending to practise witchcraft, sorcery, enchantment or conjuration, undertaking to tell fortunes Section 365
Indecent telephone calls Section 372 (2)
Harassing telephone calls Section 372 (3)
Fraudulently obtaining transportation Section 393 (3)
Falsifying employment record (punching time clock etc.) Section 398
Obtaining carriage by false billing Section 401
Impersonation at examination Section 404
Falsely claiming royal warrant Section 413
Unlawful use of military uniforms or certificates Section 419
Interfering with the saving of a wrecked vessel Section 438 (2)
Issuing trade stamps Section 427 (1)
Giving trade stamps to a purchaser of goods Section 427 (2)
Interfering with a marine signal Section 439
Interfering with boundary lines Section 442
Manufacture or possession of slugs and tokens Section 454
Defacing current coins Section 456
Refusal to employ for reason of membership in union Section 425
Manufacture, promotion, sale of likeness of currency (counterfeiting) Section 457
Corrupting Morals Section 163 & 169
Tied Sale Section 165 & 169
Immoral theatrical performance Section 167 & 169
Mailing obscene matter Section 168 & 169
Proof of Offences

Persons charged with a criminal offence are presumed innocent until they plead guilty or are proven guilty in court. The Crown prosecutor must prove that an accused person is guilty. Accused persons do not have to show that they are innocent. Accused persons are entitled to know the case against them.

Summary Conviction Appeal

You do not need a layer or paralegal: you may represent yourself at the Court of Appeal, but it is strongly recommended that you seek legal advice. CP Paralegal Solutions is always ready to help you out.

A summary conviction appeal involves the review of a decision made by the a Superior Court Judge who has heard and disposed of an appeal to the Superior Court, following a trial in the Ontario Court of Justice. The subject of such an appeal is a summary conviction offence, as opposed to an indictable offence.

An appeal is initiated by filing three copies of a notice of appeal (Form B). A certificate of the court reporter should be filed at the same time, indicating that copies of the transcript required for use on the appeal have been ordered. If such a certificate cannot be filed immediately, it must be filed within fifteen days after the notice of appeal is filed. The Court of Appeal will serve a copy of the notice of appeal on the Crown Law Office or the Federal Department of Justice, depending on the nature of the appeal.

In most summary conviction appeals, the application for leave to appeal is dealt with at the same time as the appeal, by three judges of the Court of Appeal.

The notice of appeal must be filed no later than 30 days from the date of the decision by the Superior Court judge whose decision is the subject of the appeal. If your time to file an appeal has expired, a motion for an order extending the time to file the notice of appeal can be filed. The notice of motion (Form 37A) must be prepared and a copy served on the Crown, and then filed in the Court of Appeal with proof of such service. Proof of service should be in the form of an affidavit of service (Form 16B) swearing where, when and how the documents were served, or by an admission of service on the back cover of the document to be filed. The applicant should also serve and file an affidavit explaining the reasons for the delay.

Once the notice of appeal has been filed, the appellant is required to requisition the original papers and exhibits (if any) from the court from which the appeal is taken, within 14 days of the filing of the notice of appeal, and files a copy of the requisition with the Court of Appeal. The requisition is to be in Form 4E in the Rules of Civil Procedure. The appellant must also prepare, serve and file the following documents:

appeal book (3 copies are to be filed with the court)
appellant’s factum (3 copies are to be filed with the court)
transcript: (3 copies are to be filed with the court)
All documents must be served on the Crown before they are filed, and proof of service must be filed with the Court of Appeal office when the documents are presented for filing. With the appeal book, the transcript and the appellant’s factum, the appellant must file two copies of a certificate of perfection. At this stage, the appeal is considered “perfected”, meaning that it is ready to be listed for hearing by the Court of Appeal. A book of authorities may also be filed in triplicate by the appellant. Such a filing is not mandatory. If you decide to file a book of authorities, a copy of that document, too, must be served on the Crown.

Appeal Book

The appeal book contains copies of all pertinent documents that were before the court from which the appeal has been taken. The appeal book must:

be bound front and back in buff covers
have consecutively numbered pages throughout, or be arranged by tabs
contain a table of contents describing each document, including:
the notice of appeal and any supplementary notice of appeal
the order granting leave to appeal, if any, and any order made referring to the appeal
the information or indictment including all endorsements
the order or decision appealed from, if any, as signed and entered
the reasons for judgment, if not included in the transcript to be filed on the appeal
any order for release from custody pending appeal and any other order suspending the operation of the sentence
all documentary exhibits filed at trial, arranged in order by date
all maps, plans, photographs, drawings, charts that were before trial judge and are capable of reproduction
agreed statement of facts, if any
if the appeal is from sentence, the pre-sentence report, the criminal record of convicted person and any exhibits filed on the sentencing proceedings
any notice of constitutional question with proof of service to the Attorney General of Ontario and the Attorney General of Canada
any agreement made by parties relating to transcripts required for the appeal
a certificate of perfection
a certificate of completeness (Form 61H) stating that the contents of the appeal book are complete and legible, signed by the appellant
Factum

The factum contains a statement of facts and an outline of the legal points on which the appellant bases his or her case. The appellant must type his or her name and sign the factum. The factum may not exceed 30 pages in length. Except in an appeal from sentence alone, the appellant’s factum must be bound front and back in blue covers, and must consist of the following:

Part I, containing a statement identifying the appellant and the court appealed from, the nature of the charge(s), the result in that court, and whether the appeal is from conviction, conviction and sentence, acquittal or other disposition;
Part II, containing a concise summary of the facts relevant to the issues on appeal, with such references to the evidence by page and line as is necessary;
Part III, containing a statement of each issue raised, immediately followed by a concise argument with reference to the law and authorities relating to that issue;
Part IV, containing a statement of the order that the Court of Appeal will be asked to make;
Schedule A, containing list of authorities referred to in the order in which they appear in Part III; and
Schedule B, setting out the text of all relevant provisions of statutes, regulations and by-laws, other than the Criminal Code.
Transcript

The transcript is prepared by the court reporter or reporters present during the trial or during the hearing of the appeal in the Superior Court. The appellant bears the responsibility of ordering any such transcript. Transcripts must be bound front and back in red covers.

The certificate of perfection states:

that the appeal book, transcripts, and appellant’s factum have been filed,
the estimated total length of time for oral argument, and
the name, address, and telephone number of the respondent or of their lawyer or agent
The book of authorities contains copies of all cases, statutes and other authorities that the appellant considers to be relevant to the appeal. The book of authorities must be bound front and back in blue covers and the passages that will be referred to in oral argument must be marked, that is, underlined, highlighted, or side-barred.

Time Limitation

The appellant is required to perfect the appeal within 90 days from the filing of transcripts, if there are any. If there are no transcripts, the appellant must perfect the appeal within 60 days from the filing of the notice of appeal. If for reasons beyond your control, you are not able to perfect the appeal on time, you have two options:

to ask the Crown for consent in writing to an extension of time to perfect the appeal
to file a motion to be heard by a Court of Appeal judge asking for an extension of time to perfect the appeal

So what you had committed is a summary offence which to be honest is hard to believe a mistake of $850. Anyhow you will end up being charged regardless what ur lawyer tells you also it should not have any effect of ur citizenship application however its a stain on your name and it will surely show up once they will run a back ground check on you.
 

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It sounds to me as if it was a silly mistake, made while your attention was elsewhere. It CAN happen but the problem is going to be convincing the powers that be that is DID happen that way. The bottom line is that some security guards are "wannabe cops" and are somewhat over-zealous in their handling of situations. I guess they may also get a bonus if they can "catch" someone.

I'm not sure how the law in Canada works compared to here, but theft is not a "technical offence" but has to be shown to include "intent".

The exact wording here is "A person is guilty of theft if he dishonestly appropriates property belonging to another with the intention of permanently depriving the other of it;". This, if it applies in Canada, may be your saving grace.

Well this is what Canadian law says...
"322. (1) Every one commits theft who fraudulently and without colour of right takes, or fraudulently and without colour of right converts to his use or to the use of another person, anything, whether animate or inanimate, with intent

(a) to deprive, temporarily or absolutely, the owner of it, or a person who has a special property or interest in it, of the thing or of his property or interest in it;".

I am not a lawyer, but your lawyer is... so I guess (s)he has all this covered. Good Luck!
 

heart_of_skies

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Thank you zardoz and OKK for you replies. I am very worried and don't know what to do. Lawyer is asking $1500 first and if the case goes to trail then $2000 to $3000 more. He is saying he can't do anything until he see the evidence of the store on 13th September.

It would be great help if anyone share his local experience/knowledge specially "LEON" or "PMM" share their advise or knowledge on my situation. I shall be thankful to both.
 

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Re: "LEON" or "PMM"

heart_of_skies said:
Hi Seniors, please share you knowledge.... Thank you in advance.
If this is your first offence you are likely to get away with an 'under review/ monitoring' period usually 12 months where if you don't get into trouble with the law the incindent will be expunged from your record. In Ontario this is known as a 'diversion' scheme. In addition to the requirment to be on good behaviour expect some public service type work e.g. you may have to clean the parks or work at a charity or attend video sessions about shoplifting and its impacts. You can't apply for citizenship until this 'criminal' aspect is resolved. Depending on how confident you are then you can represent yourself in court but if you get it wrong......how much was the merchandise? Expect the store to chase you up with a civil claim for paying theur security/ recovering loses - this is usually via a lawyer who adds their own 'hefty' fee to the claim circa 1K - this 'civil' aspect has no impact on citizenship application.
 

heart_of_skies

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So my case is considered as summary offense and my lawyer is getting a deal of removing/withdrawing the both charges but I have to do 150 hours community work and after that those charges will be removed from my profile/history. Seems like a good deal but 150 for a family man is little too much but I don't have any choice I think.

Although my lawyer gave me a second option to go for a trial as the case is very weak and he is 100% sure that he will win the case but he is asking $4300($3800 + tax) to do the trial :( Already given him $1500 so if I want to go for trial I have to pay him more $2800 :(

Any idea of what type of community work I have to do? Any suggestion please?

One last question, can I apply for citizenship at the moment or not as my offense is a summary offense. Please reply seniors.
 

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1. As long as there is no 'stay out of trouble' period in addition to the 150 hours then in theory you should be ok to apply when you get to 1095 days. In practice you are not in the clear prior to the 150 hours being completed and these need to be scheduled with where you are required so I don't see how you can apply in 1 week time. I'd expect some kind of soup kitchen type work. The 150 hours will be stretched out over at least 1 month I suspect.

2. If there is a 'stay out of trouble' period check with the lawyer this is not considered 'probation'.

3. There is usually a time lag between you completing the requirements for this to be expunged and your record being cleared. If CIC run criminal checks for your citizenship application during this time lag then they will get a hit on your name and they will need an explanation.

4. Note the US doesn't recognize such type of Canadian Court deals so expect a hard time crossing the border as shoplifting is a 'crime involving moral turpitude'.
 

heart_of_skies

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Sharing some further details and questions regarding my Summary Offense are..

I had been asked to complete 40 hour community work, attend a workshop on shop theft and asked to give charity donation of $275. I have completed all these tasks and submitted the documentation. On 6th December my charges will be withdrawn. Court will send notice to police department and I don't know how much time they will take to remove the charge from the system(1 week or 2 weeks).

My questions are ....

1- Is it ok to apply for my citizenship in 2nd week of January 2014? or wait further 2,3 months to be sure that charges has been removed?

2- While applying for citizenship or going to USA or UK, if I have been asked to fill some form and to mention that weather I have been charged before or not so what should be the right answer for me to write in these types of forms.

Waiting for your reply seniors.
 

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Are your charges withdrawn.
Please reply
I am an international student living on student visa in Canada. I have been charged with communication for the purpose of prostitution. Though I have joined John school and and the police says that the charges will be diverted. Will I be eligible to get the work permit after the completion of my studies as I will be through with studies in April. I am very much worried and feel like hating myself.
Please reply i will be highly thankful. I also want the experienced people to reply.