If TRV is refused during PR application, what to do?

[mikeymyke]

My wife and I are planning to try for a TRV in a few weeks, despite the fact we are married and we were initially hesitant to trying for it. We feel our chances are pretty good since her travel history, funds, job, etc are all very good, except for the fact she's married to me and from Vietnam, and also my wife went on a Vietnamese forum where she said this past month, there have been many people from Vietnam that got visitor visas despite having some red flags like no job and no travel history, maybe we'll get lucky since my wife's background is better . Even though we are a bit optimistic about our chances, we are totally expecting a refusal given the country she's from.

Our application got sent to the VO in May, it hasn't got to In Process yet, it wont be for several more months. On our application, IMM5669, we put "NO" for having ever been refused a visitor visa, but my question is, should she be refused this month, am I supposed to inform the VO about this and submit a correction to our form?

And also, we are planning on travelling to Europe in December, which will involve applying for a visa to France (our main destination). We actually feel we have a greater chance getting a visa to France, since I'll be accompanying her, and we have a friend who will let us live with him rent free. If she is refused this visa also, do I also have to inform CIC about that and submit a correction to form IMM5669?

Thanks.

 

[shinningstar]

My wife and I are planning to try for a TRV in a few weeks, despite the fact we are married and we were initially hesitant to trying for it. We feel our chances are pretty good since her travel history, funds, job, etc are all very good, except for the fact she's married to me and from Vietnam, and also my wife went on a Vietnamese forum where she said this past month, there have been many people from Vietnam that got visitor visas despite having some red flags like no job and no travel history, maybe we'll get lucky since my wife's background is better . Even though we are a bit optimistic about our chances, we are totally expecting a refusal given the country she's from.

Our application got sent to the VO in May, it hasn't got to In Process yet, it wont be for several more months. On our application, IMM5669, we put "NO" for having ever been refused a visitor visa, but my question is, should she be refused this month, am I supposed to inform the VO about this and submit a correction to our form?

And also, we are planning on travelling to Europe in December, which will involve applying for a visa to France (our main destination). We actually feel we have a greater chance getting a visa to France, since I'll be accompanying her, and we have a friend who will let us live with him rent free. If she is refused this visa also, do I also have to inform CIC about that and submit a correction to form IMM5669?

Thanks.

The refusal of TRV does not have any effect on the PR application and you also do not need to inform CIC about it.

you will have to mention the refusal only in the next TRV that you wish to apply after the refusal.

 

[mikeymyke]

You sure I don't have to inform the visa office about the TRV refusal? Wouldn't they say that we misrespresented? Or do they only look at the date which that form was signed, and only care that we weren't refused a visa before that date?

 

[agarand8]

If you were called for an interview I would bring the refusal letters but CIC is very clear about when it wants you to contact them....

When should I contact CIC?

You must notify CIC of any changes in your application, such as:

changes in your personal circumstances such as a birth or adoption of a child, a marriage or a divorce,
change in contact information (email, mailing address, phone number),
appointment or change of immigration representative or designated individual, or,
decision to withdraw your application.

I think if you try and get refused it's just further relationship proof for the two of you if anything, if you were going to send them some sort of update package you could include it, but it wouldn't be misrepresentation because at the time of submitting the forms she had not ever been refused a trv and you can easily prove that with dates on the forms. However, if they ask you to update any forms then in that case you would include the information there. But if not, then you will be fine.

 

[scylla]

You sure I don't have to inform the visa office about the TRV refusal? Wouldn't they say that we misrespresented? Or do they only look at the date which that form was signed, and only care that we weren't refused a visa before that date?

No - you don't have to update CIC. Think about what you are suggesting. If applicants had to update the application each time anything in their lives changed (new job, new residence, etc.) CIC would be flooded with updates. That's not how it works. The information needs to be complete and accurate at the time the application is signed.

 

[Hasan9999]

No - you don't have to update CIC. Think about what you are suggesting. If applicants had to update the application each time anything in their lives changed (new job, new residence, etc.) CIC would be flooded with updates. That's not how it works. The information needs to be complete and accurate at the time the application is signed.

Makes sense!

 

[Kev1n]

No - you don't have to update CIC. Think about what you are suggesting. If applicants had to update the application each time anything in their lives changed (new job, new residence, etc.) CIC would be flooded with updates. That's not how it works. The information needs to be complete and accurate at the time the application is signed.

Well said...

 

[Rob_TO]

And also, we are planning on travelling to Europe in December, which will involve applying for a visa to France (our main destination). We actually feel we have a greater chance getting a visa to France, since I'll be accompanying her, and we have a friend who will let us live with him rent free.

Note that if she successfully gets a visa to France and of course leaves France when she's supposed to... that will boost her travel history so afterwards it could be a small help to getting approved for TRV to Canada.

 

[Hasan9999]

Note that if she successfully gets a visa to France and of course leaves France when she's supposed to... that will boost her travel history so afterwards it could be a small help to getting approved for TRV to Canada.

Unfortunately they give too much weight on Canadian ties while refusing TRVs irrespective of travel history or other aspects.

 

[mikeymyke]

Thanks for the responses everyone. This made me feel a lot better knowing we don't have to do anything extra for our application. If anything, after the refusal, we will send the refusal letter to Singapore VO to show proof of attempting to visit when we're submitting extra proofs. Or even better, if she is accpeted, we will show them pics of us going to various places around Canada together

Rob: Yes we know getting the France visa would help her Canada TRV chances, and we're pretty confident about getting the France visa because I'm accompanying her and we have a PR application in process, showing that she does not intend to stay in Europe. Also, we have a friend who lives in France, who came all the way from France to attend our wedding, and he will let us live with him rent free for half our trip. She also has an aunt and cousin (who also attended our wedding) that lives in France, and we will visit them too. Oh wait oops, I think having family members in the destination country is a bad thing, isnt it?

 

[Kev1n]

Thanks for the responses everyone. This made me feel a lot better knowing we don't have to do anything extra for our application. If anything, after the refusal, we will send the refusal letter to Singapore VO to show proof of attempting to visit when we're submitting extra proofs. Or even better, if she is accpeted, we will show them pics of us going to various places around Canada together

Rob: Yes we know getting the France visa would help her Canada TRV chances, and we're pretty confident about getting the France visa because I'm accompanying her and we have a PR application in process, showing that she does not intend to stay in Europe. Also, we have a friend who lives in France, who came all the way from France to attend our wedding, and he will let us live with him rent free for half our trip. She also has an aunt and cousin (who also attended our wedding) that lives in France, and we will visit them too. Oh wait oops, I think having family members in the destination country is a bad thing, isnt it?

If your destination is Canada yes.... not sure about France