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IELTS - JUST A BUSINESS OF MAKING MONEY

smilewinnipeg16

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Dec 12, 2015
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Hi,

IELTS - is just a way to make money and Canada like countries becoming rich.

One Side Canada says if you have 6 each you are eligible to apply in Express Entry and with 6 each your CRS scores falls below 400 and keep sitting for years to receive an ITA.

Second side Canada says if you recieve 8 7 7 7 in IELTS you will get an ITA.

For - 6 each band you are eligible but in actual not eligible. Just to fetch money with low band scores and let them sit in pool to relax.

6 each doesn't means one can't hold good English skills but 8777 you consider only. Then why 6 each you have mentioned as eligible. It reflects 8777 is only eligible. Just want money from 6 each people also this is a big game to make people fool all over world.

Ony IELTS give you score. Not if you have Master Degree, even 6+ work experience is a waste for you.

No Immigration rules/changes for low score candidates. Its just seems to be a money making business only.
 

Spectrum90

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Nov 7, 2016
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I would agree IELTS/TOEFL is a way of making money. But you cannot fight the immigration system, it varies to country to country. It is better for us to improve us with time and grow :)

It is a frustration process though, been through it :-(
 

Adpr

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Dec 15, 2018
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Hello there,

While I understand it must be frustrating to wait for PR, I still believe that proficiency in the English Language is a absolute must if you want to work and live in Canada.

I have seen immigrants who are not conversant in English struggle to gets jobs and have to settle for menial work .

If you feel that IELTS is unable to verify your language skills correctly , you can always opt for CELPIP Or even TEF if you want points for French proficiency
 
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HRyan

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Jan 10, 2019
24
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montreal
Category........
PNP
Visa Office......
NDVO
NOC Code......
2173
App. Filed.......
12-07-2015
Nomination.....
31-10-2015
Med's Done....
13-09-2018
Passport Req..
25-09-2018
VISA ISSUED...
22-10-2018
LANDED..........
15-11-2018
Hello There,

It is not always needed 8777, there are many people in Canada with PR with 6 band in IELTS.

There are many options by immigration system to get in, If someone want to come through the federal system then they have to suffer for more points in IELTS.
When there is no difference in between federal and PNP system, then why to wait for Federal and trying for more points than minimum eligibility.
 

Bs65

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Canada is not alone in requiring proof of English language capability for immigration purposes and granted some people might look at it as money making exercise in particular probably native English speakers since birth. However as per previous post without even a basic grasp of English being able to integrate and succeed in Canada would be a challenge.
 
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HRyan

Full Member
Jan 10, 2019
24
10
montreal
Category........
PNP
Visa Office......
NDVO
NOC Code......
2173
App. Filed.......
12-07-2015
Nomination.....
31-10-2015
Med's Done....
13-09-2018
Passport Req..
25-09-2018
VISA ISSUED...
22-10-2018
LANDED..........
15-11-2018
Its true that, difficult to survive without English in English speaking countries. But when they put minimum eligibility, that means that is enough to survive. we need distinction to get entry easily.
 
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zabrodov

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Sep 19, 2018
614
316
Canada
Category........
FSW
Visa Office......
Montreal
NOC Code......
4163
App. Filed.......
11-11-2018
AOR Received.
11-11-2018
File Transfer...
24-01-2019
Passport Req..
02-08-2019
LANDED..........
02-09-2019
Ony IELTS give you score. Not if you have Master Degree, even 6+ work experience is a waste for you.
If you obtained your Master's from a decent university in an English speaking country, you are not going to have any problems with getting a good score in IELTS.

This exam is not tricky, it just requires a well developed ability to communicate in English. Besides, I have no idea how people with scores like 6 or so are going to succeed in the environment they are not entirely comfortable with.
 

manuce

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May 12, 2016
87
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high scores are kept to pick up the cream of the crop and filter the right high skilled candidate. There are already enough taxi drivers in Canada.
 

smilewinnipeg16

Star Member
Dec 12, 2015
133
9
Then they must mention 8 7 7 7 is eligible...NOT 6 each... They are making fool who scores 6 each and keep sitting for years.. If not need drivers then why making money from 6 each scoring people why they allow to file their express entry profile. They knows they will never get chance and let them keep sitting and re take IELTS again and again and we becoming rich...

There is no criteria for low score candidates? What is the guarantee a 8777 person don't have a criminal mind? His education diploma is OK, but English wants to be sophisticate? This sounds very unfair?

They should conduct draws between 250-300, 300-350, 350-400, 400-450 etc...Let everybody gets chance? Other side Canada says we are for everyone? I can't see anything for everyone?

80% people are going on visitor visa and get jobs their and then 4 each is fine under CEC and get PR...Others are fool who waiting for years in Pool..Nobody thinks about this.
 

zabrodov

Hero Member
Sep 19, 2018
614
316
Canada
Category........
FSW
Visa Office......
Montreal
NOC Code......
4163
App. Filed.......
11-11-2018
AOR Received.
11-11-2018
File Transfer...
24-01-2019
Passport Req..
02-08-2019
LANDED..........
02-09-2019
Then they must mention 8 7 7 7 is eligible...NOT 6 each... They are making fool who scores 6 each and keep sitting for years.. If not need drivers then why making money from 6 each scoring people why they allow to file their express entry profile. They knows they will never get chance and let them keep sitting and re take IELTS again and again and we becoming rich...

There is no criteria for low score candidates? What is the guarantee a 8777 person don't have a criminal mind? His education diploma is OK, but English wants to be sophisticate? This sounds very unfair?

They should conduct draws between 250-300, 300-350, 350-400, 400-450 etc...Let everybody gets chance? Other side Canada says we are for everyone? I can't see anything for everyone?

80% people are going on visitor visa and get jobs their and then 4 each is fine under CEC and get PR...Others are fool who waiting for years in Pool..Nobody thinks about this.
You are trying to put fault on someone else rather than yourself. What prevents you or any other person from studying towards a better IELTS score?
 

Captain3bs

Newbie
Nov 10, 2018
9
1
I concur , from my experience i have noticed that they somehow reduce band by 0.5 percent which leads to a low CRS score . from last 3 attempts i have received 6.5 in writing but never a 7 , what i heard from some people is that this is done intentionally by Cambridge as it has become a money making goose for them. Tomorrow even if i achieve 8777 i will say its a scam as there is no transparency of Results , as they never tell u in writing task where u have committed a mistake or wht wrong sentences have caused Ur marks to go down , because tht way each individual will become well focused and write a band 9 essay . how many of Individuals migrated still posses poor communication skills but some how they have passed thru. I think there should be fair and transparent method of sharing results with all mistake underlined and explained.
 
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smilewinnipeg16

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Dec 12, 2015
133
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IELTS is just a barrier to stop flooding of people getting immigration...6 each means a person is well capable to survive with his/her English skills...No Doubt in this.

8777 and 6 each seems to be not much difference in English skills. Just a way to fetch money.. Entrepreneurs who invest tones of money to get PR and this million-billions use Canada for country's development. These investors get PR without IELTS or 4 band each...Clearly reflects money is the game only. If you are rich and 5th class failure no worry get PR easily. These peoples won't trouble Canadians...How funny??

85% of skilled workers who migrate Canada are not working in their fields and mostly of them working on NOC C OR D categories which directly they don't hire..Unless until you are a scientist you won't have a skilled job in hand.

The only problem in Canada is harsh weather and extreme frostbite cold. This is the reason aging is fast in Canada. You become old 10-15 years early or even more i.e. number of deaths are more than number of births and many think where million of immigrants gone every year??

It's very unfair Masters degree in simple arts and Master degree in Science both scores same.. Science is more tough than arts but no weightage given to science master degree holders. They think all studies are same..huh? All is game of just Language nothing else. Even a broken English speaker can survive in Canada also but they don't think this much.
 
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Jakev

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Sep 22, 2017
1,005
428
NOC Code......
0114 and 0125
AOR Received.
14-11-2017
Hi,

IELTS - is just a way to make money and Canada like countries becoming rich.

One Side Canada says if you have 6 each you are eligible to apply in Express Entry and with 6 each your CRS scores falls below 400 and keep sitting for years to receive an ITA.

Second side Canada says if you recieve 8 7 7 7 in IELTS you will get an ITA.

For - 6 each band you are eligible but in actual not eligible. Just to fetch money with low band scores and let them sit in pool to relax.

6 each doesn't means one can't hold good English skills but 8777 you consider only. Then why 6 each you have mentioned as eligible. It reflects 8777 is only eligible. Just want money from 6 each people also this is a big game to make people fool all over world.

Ony IELTS give you score. Not if you have Master Degree, even 6+ work experience is a waste for you.

No Immigration rules/changes for low score candidates. Its just seems to be a money making business only.
Your suggestions are falling on deaf years, sir !

I’ve a humble suggestion for you, quoting the words of C S Lewis- ‘We cannot go back and change the beginning. But we can start where we are and change the ending’.

Please try expending your energies on improving scores on the IELTS test- I was an applicant who had a score of 369 as a result of 0.5 lesser band in Listening. On my 2nd attempt, I did practice loads of tests (along with spouse) thus boosting my overall score to an impressive 444. Please bear in mind that my age was 35 coupled with a Master’s degree and over 8 years of management experience.

Let me know how I can help you in this endeavour- it’s pretty forthright, simple, and interesting to navigate these waters.
 
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HRyan

Full Member
Jan 10, 2019
24
10
montreal
Category........
PNP
Visa Office......
NDVO
NOC Code......
2173
App. Filed.......
12-07-2015
Nomination.....
31-10-2015
Med's Done....
13-09-2018
Passport Req..
25-09-2018
VISA ISSUED...
22-10-2018
LANDED..........
15-11-2018
Hahaha.. someone said, getting 8 band in IELTS gives a professional job. Getting 6 band means eligible to work as a driver.

Boss, it is just a language test but not the knowledge test. Dont forget that "Even dogs bark in english In Canada".
 
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kanada2011

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Feb 1, 2011
3
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Hi,

IELTS - is just a way to make money and Canada like countries becoming rich.

One Side Canada says if you have 6 each you are eligible to apply in Express Entry and with 6 each your CRS scores falls below 400 and keep sitting for years to receive an ITA.

Second side Canada says if you recieve 8 7 7 7 in IELTS you will get an ITA.

For - 6 each band you are eligible but in actual not eligible. Just to fetch money with low band scores and let them sit in pool to relax.

6 each doesn't means one can't hold good English skills but 8777 you consider only. Then why 6 each you have mentioned as eligible. It reflects 8777 is only eligible. Just want money from 6 each people also this is a big game to make people fool all over world.

Ony IELTS give you score. Not if you have Master Degree, even 6+ work experience is a waste for you.

No Immigration rules/changes for low score candidates. Its just seems to be a money making business only.