I live with my wife with condition51

[shimber]

My wife is my sponsor. I and my daughter landed in Canada just 4 months ago. My application was submitted after Oct 25, 2012 which imposed 'condition 51' on my PR and my daughter's PR. My first wife died few years ago and I remarried my current wife in my native country India, my current wife sponsored me and my daughter to Canada. Our case took 4 years before we landed. The day we landed in Canada my wife started using words and actions that constituted psychological abuse, including threats and intimidation all along 4 months. On the top of it she has written a letter to minister of Immigration alleging 'Marriage of convenience' against me so that she can live with her ex-husband. We are living under one roof but in different rooms because of her bipolar behavior. Me and my daughter purchase clothing, stationary for school and groceries from my pocket and cook our own food she manages her own. I did not tell any authority regarding this because I do not want to loose my family. My 15 years old daughter is extremely scared of her threats and cannot study properly. My wife tells neighbors and others that I am not sleeping in her bed but does not want to talk to me with love about this. She meets her ex-husband who divorced her before my second marriage. I and my intimidated daughter are under so much of stress about her behavior . Kindly HELP! I am living with her but in different rooms if this is against law ( wife says ) then I have no other options to put ear buds in my eyes and sleep in her bed like a dummy fool with no self respect. I don't know Immigration Laws please HELP ME.

Thanks my friends for showing interest in my case
The latest post from 'Turbo2000' needs clarification.
I got married in India. My wife came from Canada to marry me in Aug 2011. We got married as per our customs in India. My wife stayed in India for a month and left to Canada. In Canada my wife submitted the sponsorship application on Oct 29,2012 for me and my daughter. At first the application was rejected then she filed a case with the related Authorities ( some Refugee..... so confused i forgot full form) which she won and I was granted Visa to Canada. Whole of this process took 4 years. I landed in July 2015.
Thanks MY FRIEND HELP ME.

Thanks truesmile
From whole of the process......I mean From the date of my marriage Aug.2011 to my landing in Canada July.2015 it took 4 years. From the submission of application Oct.2012 to my landing in Canada July.2015 it took 2years+9months.
Thanks

Thanks Aquakitty
your mail has given me relief. I don't want to leave my wife's house because of my daughter. She is studying in a school nearby. Suggest some other way please. I am telling the truth. I want that the Immigration people should investigate before their decision.
Thanks

 

[Ponga]

I'm so sorry to hear about your situation.

I believe that Condition 51 requires the applicant and sponsor to `continue living together in a loving, marriage like relationship', not simply as roommates.

If she has already contacted CIC, claiming that your relationship is not genuine, it's possible that CIC will investigate this relationship. You should probably seek help from someone (lawyer?) that can help you determine what, if anything, you can do.

There are cases where Condition 51 have not been enforced, but those seem to be when abuse is involved and can be proven.


Good luck to you and your family.

 

[canadianwoman]

I am very sorry to hear you and your daughter are going through this.

It is not against the law to sleep in separate bedrooms.

Since she has already sent a letter to CIC telling them the marriage is fake, CIC may investigate. If you want to continue in the marriage, try to convince her to go for marriage counseling.

If you leave, it is certainly possible that your PR will be revoked. However, there are cases where the PR is allowed to keep his or her status if the marriage ends because of abuse. In addition, because there is a child involved, there may be humanitarian and compassionate grounds.

I think you should consult an immigration lawyer.

 

[Aquakitty]

Should he even have condition 51 if he's been married for 4 years?

Take a look at the part about abuse and neglect: http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/department/media/backgrounders/2012/2012-10-26b.asp

I'd suggest collecting evidence of this situation - recordings if necessary, to prove your case if it comes to that. File a police report if she is ever physically abusive.

 

[Turbo2000]

Sincerely, even though I feel sorry for your situation, I won't jump into conclusion just from hearing one side of the story.

The pieces do not join together...your case took 4 years before landing, and the application was submitted after 2012...but we are still in 2015 .

I suggest you seek legal advice and provide the lawyer with coherent information.

My wife is my sponsor. I and my daughter landed in Canada just 4 months ago. My application was submitted after Oct 25, 2012 which imposed 'condition 51' on my PR and my daughter's PR. My first wife died few years ago and I remarried my current wife in my native country India, my current wife sponsored me and my daughter to Canada. Our case took 4 years before we landed. The day we landed in Canada my wife started using words and actions that constituted psychological abuse, including threats and intimidation all along 4 months. On the top of it she has written a letter to minister of Immigration alleging 'Marriage of convenience' against me so that she can live with her ex-husband. We are living under one roof but in different rooms because of her bipolar behavior. Me and my daughter purchase clothing, stationary for school and groceries from my pocket and cook our own food she manages her own. I did not tell any authority regarding this because I do not want to loose my family. My 15 years old daughter is extremely scared of her threats and cannot study properly. My wife tells neighbors and others that I am not sleeping in her bed but does not want to talk to me with love about this. She meets her ex-husband who divorced her before my second marriage. I and my intimidated daughter are under so much of stress about her behavior . Kindly HELP! I am living with her but in different rooms if this is against law ( wife says ) then I have no other options to put ear buds in my eyes and sleep in her bed like a dummy fool with no self respect. I don't know Immigration Laws please HELP ME.

 

[Aquakitty]

Sincerely, even though I feel sorry for your situation, I won't jump into conclusion just from hearing one side of the story.

The pieces do not join together...your case took 4 years before landing, and the application was submitted after 2012...but we are still in 2015 .

I suggest you seek legal advice and provide the lawyer with coherent information.

Yea, and if that was the case he'd not have condition 51 as they would have been married for multiple years(unless it was an error). He makes it sound like he's only been in Canada 4 months.

 

[Turbo2000]

Exactly, he needs to clarify this.

Yea, and if that was the case he'd not have condition 51 as they would have been married for multiple years(unless it was an error). He makes it sound like he's only been in Canada 4 months.

 

[shimber]

Thanks my friends for showing interest in my case
The latest post from 'Turbo2000' needs clarification.
I got married in India. My wife came from Canada to marry me in Aug 2011. We got married as per our customs in India. My wife stayed in India for a month and left to Canada. In Canada my wife submitted the sponsorship application on Oct 29,2012 for me and my daughter. At first the application was rejected then she filed a case with the related Authorities ( some Refugee..... so confused i forgot full form) which she won and I was granted Visa to Canada. Whole of this process took 4 years. I landed in July 2015.
Thanks MY FRIEND HELP ME.

 

[shimber]

Thanks 'canadianwomen' for your advice

 

[scylla]

Practially I don't think there is anything anyone here can do to help you. At this point it would be a very good idea to engage an experienced immigration lawyer to assist you if you want to try to keep your PR status. Conditional PR is still extremely new and we haven't really seen how CIC handles abuse cases or what evidence is required to prove abuse. Any information we give you here is just us guessing. This situation is too important for you to be making decisions based on our guesses. Engage a good immigration lawyer.

 

[truesmile]

I'm not here to investigate but when you phrase it "whole of this process took four years" including the marriage and not simply the application . . . ?? well now you have got me thinking twice. And your English is pretty good too.

 

[shimber]

Thanks 'Aquakitty', 'scylla' and 'Ponga'

 

[shimber]

Thanks truesmile
From whole of the process......I mean From the date of my marriage Aug.2011 to my landing in Canada July.2015 it took 4 years. From the submission of application Oct.2012 to my landing in Canada July.2015 it took 2years+9months.
Thanks

 

[Aquakitty]

Thanks truesmile
From whole of the process......I mean From the date of my marriage Aug.2011 to my landing in Canada July.2015 it took 4 years. From the submission of application Oct.2012 to my landing in Canada July.2015 it took 2years+9months.
Thanks

Thanks for clarifying. Yes if you submitted the application before you were married for 2 years then yes you'd end up with condition 51. I highly suggest getting a lawyer, and if you can, recording evidence of her abuse, that's by far the best way to get authorities involved if it comes to that.

But, if you feel you are in danger from the abuse you have to get out of there. If you are telling the truth, you won't have a problem.

 

[shimber]

Thanks Aquakitty
your mail has given me relief. I don't want to leave my wife's house because of my daughter. She is studying in a school nearby. Suggest some other way please. I am telling the truth. I want that the Immigration people should investigate before their decision.
Thanks